Batman VS Vegeta

Here's something different. Question: Who trained harder?

Note: Obviously we're going with comics Batman for this.

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

Well to be fair, Vegeta only did that cause he could take it. If Batman had the resiliance to not turn into jelly, I'm sure he'd make a gravity chamber to.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

He also trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1-2 days IIRC ,which is the equivalent of 1-2 years of training (obviously not for 24hrs a day, but still).

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

You say that like Batman hardly worked at all. Remember he wasn't just lifitng weights; he had to master 127 different styles of martial arts, learn 10 thousand languages, get superior degrees in chemistry, physics, biology, all that stuff, and so on. I think the mental training he went through was even worse then the physical.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

He also trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1-2 days IIRC ,which is the equivalent of 1-2 years of training (obviously not for 24hrs a day, but still).

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

You say that like Batman hardly worked at all. Remember he wasn't just lifitng weights; he had to master 127 different styles of martial arts, learn 10 thousand languages, get superior degrees in chemistry, physics, biology, all that stuff, and so on. I think the mental training he went through was even worse then the physical.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@Bleeble said:

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stron alsoger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

He also trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1-2 days IIRC ,which is the equivalent of 1-2 years of training (obviously not for 24hrs a day, but still).

And if I recall correctly, that was during the Android/Cell Sagas, which he trained with Trunks.

Yes it was.

Also I believe the gravity in the chamber was higher than earth's (though not significantly higher) and the temperature would fluctuate from extremely hot to freezing cold.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@nickzambuto said:

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stronger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

You say that like Batman hardly worked at all. Remember he wasn't just lifitng weights; he had to master 127 different styles of martial arts, learn 10 thousand languages, get superior degrees in chemistry, physics, biology, all that stuff, and so on. I think the mental training he went through was even worse then the physical.

Yeah, because none of that can compare to training under 400 times Earth's gravity.

Like I said, Vegeta is not human. Training under 400 times gravity for the prince of all Saiyans is the equivalent of Batman benching 600 lbs.

I'm not asking who literally TRAINED harder, but who WORKED harder. So, my fault for the way I worded it. Forgive me.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@Bleeble said:

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stron alsoger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

He also trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1-2 days IIRC ,which is the equivalent of 1-2 years of training (obviously not for 24hrs a day, but still).

And if I recall correctly, that was during the Android/Cell Sagas, which he trained with Trunks.

Yes it was.

Also I believe the gravity in the chamber was higher than earth's (though not significantly higher) and the temperature would fluctuate from extremely hot to freezing cold.

Bruce did travel the planet just to hone his physicality and mental endurance, as well as acquire all the training he possibly could.

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@Bleeble said:

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@Bleeble said:

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@ThanosIsMad said:

The guy who subjected himself to gravity 40 times stron alsoger than his native planet trained harder.

400 times gravity. <_< Is this even a contest? Obviously Vegeta.

He also trained in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1-2 days IIRC ,which is the equivalent of 1-2 years of training (obviously not for 24hrs a day, but still).

And if I recall correctly, that was during the Android/Cell Sagas, which he trained with Trunks.

Yes it was.

Also I believe the gravity in the chamber was higher than earth's (though not significantly higher) and the temperature would fluctuate from extremely hot to freezing cold.

Unfortunately, no. The HBTC does not have that kind of technology. It's a whole other dimension within itself.

He was right about the weather thing tho.

Like I said, Vegeta is not human. Training under 400 times gravity for the prince of all Saiyans is the equivalent of Batman benching 600 lbs.

I'm not asking who literally TRAINED harder, but who WORKED harder. So, my fault for the way I worded it. Forgive me.

He was right about the weather thing tho.

@PunkMastaFlex said:

False. Out of the entire Saiyan population, only Vegeta and Goku have approached such drastic training methods. There are many people in real life let alone, COMICS that can easily bench six hundred lbs. Daredevil has utilized a four hundred lb barbell as a bo-staff for crying out loud. That feat alone exceeds benching six hundred lbs.

As for who worked harder, Batman.

@nickzambuto:

Training under 400 times gravity for the prince of all Saiyans is the equivalent of Batman benching 600 lbs.

@Voodoom said:

Batman is the top of the human species, but Vegeta is damn near the top of his. Unless you set the parameters I can't see Batman winning since V can just blow up planet earth.

This is not a fight. It's about who worked harder in their training.

Does that mean anything that isn't human are able to accomplish a lot more than humans? Flawed statement. Implies nearly anything.

And Batman wasn't tantamount on becoming smarter and more powerful to take on the criminal underworld? Fact is, Batman has worked hard to reach there. He doesn't need to work harder unless the criminals evolve to level the playing field and if that's the situation, Batman WILL adapt to cope with it. What I'm implying is that he will work harder to match them and not only that, to precariously hang over them. As for Vegeta, he's always on the short end of the stick of the Z-Fighter's fights. Whether it be Frieza, Cell, non-cannon villains, and Buu. Despite Vegeta's persistence on becoming more powerful, he usually ends up as the weaker being yet Goku usually ends up fighting on par with them. Not just Goku either but others such as Gohan. So far, Batman worked hard to exceed the criminal underworld beforehand and as Vegeta, he worked hard to get his ass handed to him time and time again despite being a talented Saiyan. It's no doubt who works harder.

Why are there so many ridiculous battles going on

Why are there so many ridiculous battles going on

... The basis of your statement is that Vegeta can do things Batman can't... that isn't equivocal to whom works harder. Superman can easily save the world in one day but as for any other human being (For example, your fellow classmate or co-worker), they need to work hard and study for years to a decade before approaching such a thing. Who works harder I wonder? Superman or that classmate/co-worker?

First off, their intentions are nowhere near equivocal with one anther's and secondly, aren't you and many others attempting to weight Vegeta's against Batman's?

@Dark Cloud™ said:

@PunkMastaFlex said:

... The basis of your statement is that Vegeta can do things Batman can't... that isn't equivocal to whom works harder. Superman can easily save the world in one day but as for any other human being (For example, your fellow classmate or co-worker), they need to work hard and study for years to a decade before approaching such a thing. Who works harder I wonder? Superman or that classmate/co-worker?

First off, their intentions are nowhere near equivocal with one anther's and secondly, aren't you and many others attempting to weight Vegeta's against Batman's?

...seriously? Uhm, yes, Vegeta able to do things Batman can't is very equivocal to whom works harder. Batman can't work under 400 times Earth's gravity, Vegeta can. That means, Vegeta is pumping out more strenuous effort to accomplish what Batman, a Human, cannot.

Let's say Batman's max weight lift is 1,000 lbs. This is the hardest thing Batman's ever done, it requires all of his concentration, his will, and brings every last muscle he has to it's bursting point. Vegeta meanwhile, can lift 1,001 pounds with a finger. He lifted more than Batman. Did he work harder?

@Dark Cloud™ said:

2) he'd be crushed at twice Earth's gravity

The force of attraction between 2 objects is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between their centers of mass.

Fg = (G * M1 * M2) ÷ R^2

G = 6.67 * 10^-11

M1 = mass of planet

M2 = mass of person standing on the surface of the planet.

R = on the surface of a planet, R is the radius of the planet.

This force, Fg, is the weight of a person on the surface of the earth.

The acceleration, g, due to this force = (G * M1) ÷ R^2

If the gravity, g, is “twice as strong”, the force of attraction is twice as strong.

So the person’s weight is 2 times the weight on the earth.

On the earth, M = 5.98 * 10^24 kg and R = 6.38 * 10^6 m.

On the earth, g, = (6.67 * 10^-11 * 5.98 * 10^24) ÷ (6.38 * 10^6)^2 = 9.8 m/s^2

Batman weighs maybe 250 lbs. At twice Earth's gravity he'd weigh 500 lbs. Well within his survival limit, though I'm not saying he'd be comfortable.

@PunkMastaFlex said:

@nickzambuto:

His internal organs will logically collapse under that gravity.

Well that's egg on my face.

which vegeta are you referring to? if its the GT vegeta, then bruce trains harder. but if its DBZ version, then obviously vegeta trains harder, because he wants to keep up with goku

@kcaz said:

which vegeta are you referring to? if its the GT vegeta, then bruce trains harder. but if its DBZ version, then obviously vegeta trains harder, because he wants to keep up with goku

I mean overrall, but GT is non canon.

Vegeta Physically

Mentally Batman

Vegeta

Vegeta.

Vegeta

Vegeta

My thread has failed. Only 2 people understood the question.

@Lvenger said:

I was worried this was going to be a battle thread. In this instance, I'd say Vegeta. Subjecting himself to 400 times Earth's gravity to achieve the title of strongest warrior is quite the feat I have to admit. Vegeta's constantly overcome the limits that previous Saiyan warriors have had whilst Batman who's trained incredibly hard has only reached peak human conditioning.

and thats all hes capable of reaching. bruce cant surpass peak human since his race wont allow him to enter the superhuman stage like other races. To descredit him for reaching the peak of his race because its weak compare to planet busting races is unfair. while vegeta has reached new limits few in his race have ever reached bruce has or is a the limit to what his race can do for that id say bruce has trained harder.The possilble limit to vegetas race is SSJ3 which he never reached while bruce is at it limit/peak.