Here is why I think Mirage Turtle win.
I think people need to do more research before stating Batman clears this. This is not including the 1987 cartoon which has more incredible feats.
If someone like Bane or Deathstroke who have not mastered multiple MA styles, but give Batman a hard time none the less with their super human stats combined with what skill they have mastered, then all 4 Ninja Turtles from Mirage should more than match and beat Batman.
Especially since the Mirage Turtles are willing to kill for a win. They kill Teenagers who joined the Foot Clan all the time with no qualms for a win. The Mirage Turtles even use Guns and Lasers to kill. Donny killed Stockman who was defenseless with a shot to the head when Stockman refuse to see things Donny way. Batman meanwhile does hold back lethal blows, this is a hindrance on the turtles.
One last thing to note is Mirage are very feat heavy and skilled with over 200 comics of awesomeness. People like Raphael has confronted and beaten back whole groups of Werewolves by himself. Donny has beaten whole squads of Triceratons, each one a highly train soldier with Meta Human Stats, by himself.
All 4 are way too much IMO.
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
Unless the IDW team has written for Batman that doesn't mean much even if they have it still wouldn't mean much seeing as how they aren't thee authority on Batman.
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
How does he beat 2003 and 2012 turtles?! those guys are far above peak human levels! especially 2012 versions!
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
Unless the IDW team has written for Batman that doesn't mean much even if they have it still wouldn't mean much seeing as how they aren't thee authority on Batman.
Not really. I mean, even as debaters, we can say that someone is the rough equivalent of someone else in terms of a certain area. The IDW team is even more official, and has more authority over their character. They don't have to write Batman to say that, like we don't have to write any of the characters we debate for. In fact the IDW Team probably read Batman themselves.
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
How does he beat 2003 and 2012 turtles?! those guys are far above peak human levels! especially 2012 versions!
The 2003 Turtles were pretty slow because of the animation style. They have an edge in durability, but Batman has overcome those odds before. In fact, Agent Bishop, who has less equipment and speed that Bruce has, owned the Turtles in combat using practically nothing.
2012 are probably a bit quicker than the 2003 versions, but they're durability isn't that impressive, and neither are their skill compared to The Dark Knight.
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
Unless the IDW team has written for Batman that doesn't mean much even if they have it still wouldn't mean much seeing as how they aren't thee authority on Batman.
Not really. I mean, even as debaters, we can say that someone is the rough equivalent of someone else in terms of a certain area. The IDW team is even more official, and has more authority over their character. They don't have to write Batman to say that, like we don't have to write any of the characters we debate for. In fact the IDW Team probably read Batman themselves.
Batman clears all except for the Mirage version. In fact, the IDW team said that Shredder was a rough equivalent of Batman in terms of hand-to-hand combat. Minus Oroku Saki's blinding arrogance and add Bruce's calm nature on top of his intelligence, and the Turtles shouldn't be a problem. They've lost to singular, highly skilled foes all the time. In fact, IDW's issue 21 or so was literally Splinter kicking their butts around the entire time with minimal effort. I'll post some scans of Shredder dominating the Turtles.
How does he beat 2003 and 2012 turtles?! those guys are far above peak human levels! especially 2012 versions!
The 2003 Turtles were pretty slow because of the animation style. They have an edge in durability, but Batman has overcome those odds before. In fact, Agent Bishop, who has less equipment and speed that Bruce has, owned the Turtles in combat using practically nothing.
2012 are probably a bit quicker than the 2003 versions, but they're durability isn't that impressive, and neither are their skill compared to The Dark Knight.
Bishop is such a bad example especially considering he was skilled enough to take down splinter, who we can confirm can beat batman, and who we can confirm would one shot batman in general considering he took down a dragon with a broken leg. Bishop took down 4 skilled heavily mutated fighters, their master who is far above them in skill alone, leather head, and multiple other fighters all at once BY HIMSELF. Take that into consideration.
start from 11:50-12:10
11:45-12:30 combat feats and some speed feats for leo. 15:10-19:25 combat feats and agility feats.
This is all i can find i'll be sure to find more. Now for 2003 turtles.
here is splinter feats and turtle feats(take note the turtles were stated to surpass splinter, plus they were showing similar feats in the series, also it may show characters like usagi, but usagi is equal in skill with leo, plus leo is arguably more skilled than he is.)
1:38-1:59, 6:17-7:32, 9:10-10:23, 14:31-16:10,21:27-22:32, 27:27-39:38,55:55-59:00,1:01:51-1:03:36, 1:04:00-1:05:25.
1:30-2:19, 4:20-5:54, 15:09-19:35.
And lets all take note, the op did not specify the gear of the 2003 turtles, so we can assume its season 5 2003 turtles, where they gained mystical powers all the way to the point where they can turn into dragons, or fast forward turtles who had high tech gear which would overall destroy batman and make his gadgets look like utter shit.
0:33-1:00, 11:30-12:36, 16:12-17:52
9:29-9:54.
Want me to show you more? the 2012 version got the speed and reflex department, but 2003 turtles got the durabilty, immense skill and teamwork department. Teamwork is the biggest factor here as well, each turtle would give batman moderate difficulty at best, but he is fighting four of them, each with their own styles of fighting, and unique attributes to their fighting styles. Batman would be overwhelmed.
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