Batman vs Terminator

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batman is not weak

bends the barrel of a gun

holds up 1000 pound ceiling

can bend steel doors

kicks trees in half

Batman is bloodlusted

Batman has all his weapons

Terminator has shotgun  

Wins by kill 

Happens in a gotham junkyard

They have no prep time (depending on if you think they should or not but for now no prep)

Batman fights the terminator because it was attacking john connor and batman thought he was an average mugger or somthing or other

hasta la vista batman.

terminator stomps.....

batman is bloolusted. he will destroy it if he has the chance it's just up to you to say if he will have that chance.oh and I basically put that story there because I knew someone would lose track of batsy being bloodlusted. DON'T LOOK AT WHY THEY FIGHT!

The Dark Knight doesn't stand no chance here.Terminator will one-shot him.

Batman has amazing feats for a human. But he is still human, a terminator is made out of pretty a tough titanium alloy. Without a high caliber rifle or some kind of electric gun batman is terminated. Without prep he is just a human compared to the terminator.

Movie terminator is not that awesome, but Everybody is saying that the Terminator would win, How awesome is Comic-Terminator?
Because I can see Batman wining against movie Terminator with prep-time or explosives.

oh you people are KILLING me.with john connor's help they destroy the first terminator. Another terminator is sent ( STILL T-800 unit because that is the fight). batman prepares for two days. his bat-armor from batman vs predator is optional.one other thing: batman's goal is to protect john connor from the terminator's

@ Deadcool: it depends on the comic. I know that robocop is slow and probably weaker but he still beat the terminators. the terminator's should have brought robocop into the future and make him bow to them. in aliens vs predator vs the terminator they were nearly indestructable.

If the terminator only has a shotgun, isn't the batsuit invulnerable to shotguns?

Bruce... prepare to get terminated

I'm sure that Batman has some sort of EMP device in his utility belt some where.

Terminator miiiiiiiiight have the strength advantage. Bruce definitely has the technique advantage.

Common knowledge in martial arts is, "Technique beats strength all the time."


I mean, c'mon. If batman can bend steel with minimal effort, and support a half ton ceiling by himself. I'm sure he can rip off the terminators head. Keep in mind that he is a master of martial arts. So he most likely knows jujitsu. With jujitsu, he'd have no problem targeting the terminator's joints with his brute force and explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs.

EDIT: You have much, much, MUCH more respect for batman's martial art abilities if you've actually studied martial arts.

"Terminator miiiiiiiiight have the strength advantage. Bruce definitely has the technique advantage. Common knowledge in martial arts is, "Technique beats strength all the time."I mean, c'mon. If batman can bend steel with minimal effort, and support a half ton ceiling by himself. I'm sure he can rip off the terminators head. Keep in mind that he is a master of martial arts. So he most likely knows jujitsu. With jujitsu, he'd have no problem targeting the terminator's joints with his brute force and explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs.EDIT: You have much, much, MUCH more respect for batman's martial art abilities if you've actually studied martial arts. "

" Bruce... prepare to get terminated "

"@Logic_and_Debate said:

"Terminator miiiiiiiiight have the strength advantage. Bruce definitely has the technique advantage. Common knowledge in martial arts is, "Technique beats strength all the time."I mean, c'mon. If batman can bend steel with minimal effort, and support a half ton ceiling by himself. I'm sure he can rip off the terminators head. Keep in mind that he is a master of martial arts. So he most likely knows jujitsu. With jujitsu, he'd have no problem targeting the terminator's joints with his brute force and explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs.EDIT: You have much, much, MUCH more respect for batman's martial art abilities if you've actually studied martial arts. "

Common knowledge is metal is tougher than flesh.  Common knowledge has the terminator punching his fist through the back of batman's head regardless of whatever kung fu nonsense batman tries to use.  The terminator is a machine what the teach you about pressure points in your karate class you took back when you were ten years old isn't going to work here.  Also as someone who has studied martial arts I'd bet everything I own that if Batman went against a terminator in H2H he would be dead very quickly.    "

 

don't attack the dudes martial arts skills just because you want to make a point. and i agree with you, in hand to hand batman would stand very little chance of even hurting terminator.  super strength does mean little to a good ju jitsu practitioner but a machine is different, you cant manipulate a machine body like a human body.

 

i give this fight to bats however, due to gadgets. if batman can solo amazo, he can terminate the terminator.

I think Terminator wins in a battle closer than some may think.

" @cody1984: Don't forget that batman is much stronger than a normal human. I didn't study karate. I mainly studied jujitsu, krav maga and tae kwon doe. A much better mix, in my opinion. Anyways, I think batman could stay out of the terminators reach with his superior agility and speed and grapple gun. From his speed and range advantage, I think that batman could pound the terminator with explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs. Don't forget his suit is decently tough. "

" @cody1984: Don't forget that batman is much stronger than a normal human. I didn't study karate. I mainly studied jujitsu, krav maga and tae kwon doe. A much better mix, in my opinion. Anyways, I think batman could stay out of the terminators reach with his superior agility and speed and grapple gun. From his speed and range advantage, I think that batman could pound the terminator with explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs. Don't forget his suit is decently tough. "

" @cody1984:

@Logic_and_Debate said:

" @cody1984: Don't forget that batman is much stronger than a normal human. I didn't study karate. I mainly studied jujitsu, krav maga and tae kwon doe. A much better mix, in my opinion. Anyways, I think batman could stay out of the terminators reach with his superior agility and speed and grapple gun. From his speed and range advantage, I think that batman could pound the terminator with explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs. Don't forget his suit is decently tough. "

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" @cody1984: Your ignoring the "pounding the terminator with explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs" part of my post. "

" @Amazingoctus: 
Spite! :) I waited for something like this -  please, Bat-fans, prove to me that Batman can win with MACHINE in h2h combat... Batman can only win by power of PIS. ;) Even if Batman have his weapons, he can't use deadly force because, he don't kill and he don't know that T-800 is machine.   "

Again with you and your antibatman crap,batman stomps with one sonic attack which short circuits him completly.

Seriously what are you folks smoking here?

"@Logic_and_Debate said:

" @cody1984: Your ignoring the "pounding the terminator with explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs" part of my post. "

Indeed I'm ignoring it on purpose because Batman is DC comics poster boy so they have him win fights against opponents who should kick his ass. "

"@entropy_aegis: 
"Again with you and your antibatman crap,batman stomps with one sonic attack which short circuits him completly."Anti-Batman? No, just pro logic. :) In fist fight he have no chance. In long range?  Maybe - thats why I ask what kind of weapons Batman have in his utility belt? Can you post some scans of Batman using deadly weapon? Does he have that kind of weapons on his in his regular equipment?   "

"@entropy_aegis: 
"In a fist fight he can keep dodging him till he feels like it,"

So, now Batman is faster than machine? LOL
 
"John Connor (adult) punched him and turned his face in the process without hurting himself."

When, where? My knowledge about Terminator is limited to three movies. Is sounds like PIS, considering this:
  

  
  

   
 
 "Batman hit's maybe 10-15 times harder,he has kicked steel doors."

 Of course! Also Batman did play in Titanic. He was the Ice Berg. Batman's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried. Batman counted to infinity - twice... and of course Batman can breathe in space...  Nonsens like this turns the character into bad joke. Stop posting PIS -  stop talking about feats that, logically Batman couldn't do. We all know that he is just a human.

 "Batman has sonics,EMP'S and electric attacks(Gauntlets/Knuckles and suit),1 explosive batarang in his mouth and it's over,all this is standard equipment.I'll post scans when i'm in the mood to do so. "

You see? You can use logic! :) But can you prove that Batman have all this things in his regular equipment? And don't get moody - nobody take Batman away from you. 
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So how about you stop using "real" logic,do you even know what PIS even is?Let me educate you junior,PIS stands for plot induced stupidity.It's when a character does something which he CANNOT do consistently or under the unfluence of a bad writer.What you say is completly irrelevant here.By you logic characters like Hulk are PIS as well cause humans' dont mutate in to giant monsters when they are caught in radiation bombs.Who the hell are you to decide what he can or cannot do?Can't stand the character then dont bother coming to his fights only to post scans of him getting beaten.He's not making someone job by kicking down a tree or a steel door,him pressing 1000lbs is'nt harming anyone,there is nothing plot induced about any of these.You have this weird obsession with downplaying his feats cause he's "human",suspend you disbelief and then we'll talk.

I have no problem acknowledging Batman's limits or when he loses.And as for your precious machine what speed feats does he have?by your awesome logic a washing machine is faster than a human.

All the stuff i mentioned is part of his standard arsenal,anyone who's read a decent amount on the character would know,and chances are you'd dismiss them as PIS cause no belt can carry all that stuff.

which model we're using here T-800 or T-850?

PC Batman stomps.

"@cody1984 said:

"@Logic_and_Debate said:

" @cody1984: Your ignoring the "pounding the terminator with explosive, acidic, cryo etc. batarangs" part of my post. "

Indeed I'm ignoring it on purpose because Batman is DC comics poster boy so they have him win fights against opponents who should kick his ass. "

So basically any weapon which batman has which can lead him to victory is gonna be ignored cause you dont like it?Pfft yeah right. "

"@Picard said:

"@entropy_aegis: 
"Again with you and your antibatman crap,batman stomps with one sonic attack which short circuits him completly."Anti-Batman? No, just pro logic. :) In fist fight he have no chance. In long range?  Maybe - thats why I ask what kind of weapons Batman have in his utility belt? Can you post some scans of Batman using deadly weapon? Does he have that kind of weapons on his in his regular equipment?   "

In a fist fight he can keep dodging him till he feels like it,John Connor (adult) punched him and turned his face in the process without hurting himself.Batman hit's maybe 10-15 times harder,he has kicked steel doors.But all that is beside the point,Batman has sonics,EMP'S and electric attacks(Gauntlets/Knuckles and suit),1 explosive batarang in his mouth and it's over,all this is standard equipment.I'll post scans when i'm in the mood to do so.  "

ok I'm just going to add how batman could win in a fist fight with the terminator. the terminator is not slow but batman is faster. he can dodge all the terminators physical attacks. he has (even though it is dwarfed by ther terminator's) impressive strength and incredibly martial skills. he can hit the terminator's joints and either loosen the limb (or whatever he hits) or take it off. he might also be able to dent it's skull. now I'm not saying who I think will win I'm just saying that batman COULD win

oh and batman can take and avoid bullets at close range

doges MACHINE gunfire at very close range

dodges mr freezes freeze ray at close range

takes gunfire head on, he does not dodge this time

"@cody1984: All of your comments involving Batman losing H2H combat seem to infer that you assume that Batman won't use any gear in a fist fight. "

Original post says Batman has all his weapon... Any of you guys ever watch the original Terminator recently? The one where it's Kyle Reese (a human soldier from the future resistance) and Sarah Conner (who was just a random chick off the street at the time) who fight T-800? They killed T-800 with improvised weapons and they are NOWHERE close to matching Batman in any way. Durability is the only real advantage the T-800 has over Bats. They have hit normal people all the time without even knocking them out and they move pretty slow. Batman takes this easily.

" @Logic_and_Debate said:

"@cody1984: All of your comments involving Batman losing H2H combat seem to infer that you assume that Batman won't use any gear in a fist fight. "

I assuming that if he wins its going to be because DC is going to pull PIS like they always do with batman."

I don't believe that the shotgun will be much of a factor here, since batman's suit is bulletproof, and since he can easily stay out of range with his superior speed and agility + grapple gun. So the only way that the terminator could hurt batman, was in CQC. If it got to CQC, Batman could still easily avoid the terminator's attacks. So batman can also have in battle prep time by thinking, while he is running/gliding circles around the terminator. One good blow with an acidic or explosive batarang can terminate the terminator. An emp device would KO it.

" Who cares if Batman is bloodlusted he still wouldn't be able to beat a terminator to death with his barehands or even be able to hurt it.  "