Batman Vs. Superman

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#1  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

"This has been done before!!!!" Hold your horses. I have a twist. The twist is that Batman can not use kryptonite in any way shape or form, and Superman can not speed blitz or fly. Also this is not a cage fight, Either Superman or Batman can threaten the other to win, such as kidnapping lois lane or Catwoman.

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#2  Edited By nefarious

Superman still has his strength. 
 
That is all he needs to win. 

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#3  Edited By Jorgevy

it would be more interesting if Batman had 45 percent of Superman's powers and Superman retained the other 55 percent. And neither of them could use Kryptonite (both would be vulnerable to it).

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#4  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

Superman doesn't have his speed though, he'd be as fast as the average man. Bats is easily faster compared to a normal man.

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#5  Edited By Speedzy

I think superman wins, good match though.

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#6  Edited By Dark_Vengeance_

Batman gets on the Batmobile goes to the batcave, makes a trap with red sunlight bulbs, done

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#7  Edited By AssertingValor

@Nefarious said:

Superman still has his strength. That is all he needs to win.

and freeze breath to stop batman in his tracks...........

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#8  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

As there is no prep or timeline for prep mentioned, I fail to see how Batman is going to do anything save break his fist on Superman's jaw. Clark could use heat vision, flash freeze him ... but seeing as how they're in character, he probably love taps Bruce and let's him sleep it off. Cuz Bruce was obviously drunk and or out of his mind to take a swing at the man of steel.

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#9  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

Batman does have to go fist fight with him. he can just say, "hey Clark, if you don't stop i'm going to throw lous Lane off a building.

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#10  Edited By nefarious
@LordMaverick: Oh yeah, that, too.
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#11  Edited By nickzambuto

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Batman does have to go fist fight with him. he can just say, "hey Clark, if you don't stop i'm going to throw lous Lane off a building.

Batman doesn't kill people, no matter what. Especially not an innocent Lois Lane who didn't do crap to anyone.

Superman knows Batman better then anyone, he'll see right through this ruse and won't hesitate to keep fighting.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

Batman gets on the Batmobile goes to the batcave, makes a trap with red sunlight bulbs, done

More like gets a red sun flashlight and brings it back to the battle site, but yes this is the basic jist of it.

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#12  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

@nickzambuto So that time in Hush when Batman had Catwoman throw Lois of a roof, that doesn't count?...

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#13  Edited By Urbs

Without Kryptonite and something on hand that uses red sun radiation, how will Batman even hurt Supes?

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#14  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

Also Batman prefers not to take life, but will if he has to. for example, in Superman/Batman Enemies Among Us, Bats was prepared to nuke a whole city to stop some alien nasties and Despero.

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#15  Edited By Jorgevy

@Urbs said:

Without Kryptonite and something on hand that uses red sun radiation, how will Batman even hurt Supes?

THIS

Like I said, splitting Supes powers among the two would be better...

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@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Batman does have to go fist fight with him. he can just say, "hey Clark, if you don't stop i'm going to throw lous Lane off a building.

If Batman has not morals, than Superman has no morals, so he does the same with Batman's allies, or just does not care and kills Batman with his heat vision.

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#17  Edited By blackadamFTW

If there's no Kryptonite, Batman can't win.

Supes easily beats him.

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#18  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

@drgnx: No. They have regular morals, Batman is always prepare to take a life if he absolutely needs to for the better.

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#19  Edited By ImmortalOne

Batman has a chance to win against a Superman without speed or flight through strategy, but Superman still has his strength, durability, laser beams, ice breath, and other powers.

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#20  Edited By willpayton

@blackadamFTW said:

If there's no Kryptonite, Batman can't win.

Supes easily beats him.

Even with kryptonite, Superman just uses his heat vision to destroy Batman in a microsecond. Bruce doesnt stand a chance here, what a horrible battle.

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#21  Edited By ImTheDamnBatman

People underestimate Batman. I guess they really have never read any Batman or know nothing about him. Superman once said that Batman is the most dangerous being on the planet.

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#22  Edited By ImmortalOne

@ImTheDamnBatman: I agree about people underestimating him, but if you factor in all of Superman's powers, he could easily defeat Batman. For instance- he could fry Batman, freeze him with his icebreath, pound him into submission, etc., and without Kryptonite, Batman couldn't do anything against his durability. In the Hush storyline, Batman himself said he would shatter his hand if he kept on punching Superman.

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#23  Edited By FourthDeity

Ok.. Think about it

No flight No super speed. Supes still has his durability,Arctic breath and heat vison.

He stomps

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#24  Edited By jeanroygrant

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Superman still has his strength. That is all he needs to win.
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#25  Edited By jeanroygrant

Superman punches the earth and the area they are in crumbles along with Batman.

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People often overestimate Batman. And underestimate Superman. Even with Kryptonite. Batman thinks of getting Kryptonite from his belt. Superman fries his belt. Plus Superman moves faster than light. Batman is awesome, but he can't cripple supes without some SERIOUS prep.

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#27  Edited By Chichen_Nuggeg

Can we use any version of the characters?

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#28  Edited By Awesomedude

Superman accidentally kills Bats by flicking him in the forehead.

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Straight up fight Superman would own Batman in every way.

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I'd prefer it if Batman were to win. That should be my signature.

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If you want to start a flame war then create a "Batman vs Superman" thread. No point in debating here.

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No Kryptonite for Batman? Ya gotta be kiddin'. Superman curbstomps Batman with ridiculous ease. Unless he somehow leads Superman into a Red Sun, but since Supes aint allowed ta fly that aint gonna happen. Supes is aslo weak against magic, but Batsy cant use magic.

Superman punches Batman in the face an' smashes Batman's face to itsy bitsy tiny lil' bits.

Superman wins in a curbstomp.

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Even if Batman has no kryptonite, and given that there are no other rules for Batman, he can simply trick Superman into a trap.

Everyone seemed to forget that Superman has other weaknesses other than kryptonite. Magic and Red Sun radiation, remember?

Batman definitely wins this, easily.

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@wenjunchew: Where is Batman going to get magic to use against Superman? Where is he gonna get Red Sun Radiation? Even if he had that stuff, superman's so strong he'd one shot batman. And I say this being a really huge batfan. Superman slaughter curbstomps.

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkFzXkpjXmM

Watch the link and hopefully this squash any belief bats can win.

Who ever believe different is foolish fanboy.

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Morals Off? Superman punches the earth and decimates the entire country.

Morals on? Superman creates a vortex to suck the oxygen out of batman.

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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkFzXkpjXmM

Watch the link and hopefully this squash any belief bats can win.

Who ever believe different is foolish fanboy.

Doesn't matter who wins, they're best friends and would have no real reason to fight to begin with, ad least seriously.

To the subject- Superman wins he still has his Super durability and Strength. Still a very unfair fight in Superman favor, he still has his other powers while Bruce has none.

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1000 Batmen in this scenario cannot harm Supes. Supes effortlessly stomps all.

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Superman.

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#43  Edited By iknowwhoyouare

Superman

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#44  Edited By AlieNinja

Without prep time batman can't beat most heroes and villains but with prep time he can beat anyone as that IS his power and the DC world is full of prep time for everyone and bats is the only hero to ever take full advantage of that.

No fight is decided by a speed or power blitz otherwise wars would be won by sheer number and good equipment only (and they haven't). There are hundreds or even thousands of factors to consider like mentality of the fighters their skill and control of their abilities the terrain and environment etc.

Realistically the mind can accomplish anything so batman with his superior mind and experience and resources can overcome superman.

The writers are the ones who made the powers of both characters and their mind states and superman's boy scout mind state is one of the many weaknesses batman can exploit and strategising exploiting planning ahead for a thousand confrontations gadgets stealth are all bat's powers.

A superman without a low iq and boy scout morality and who is bloodlusted ALL the time is theoretical and doesn't exist.

And there can be hundreds of reasons for them to fight even if they r best friends.

That said, there's a 50 50 chance on who would win which is why they are the top 2 in DC

note this does not include superman prime (who is waaayyy overpowered) though I won't be surprised IF bats finds a way as nothing is impossible (but very unlikely)

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And don't make the usual "writers did it so" excuse as without them there wouldn't be any characters.

Every argument u have made even the theories u have put up are all based on the what the writers have created.

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Batman runs away from battle in batmobile.

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@a1l_s2a3m4e5n: that IS one way to win a fight. "Live to fight another day"

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Superman.

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@a1l_s2a3m4e5n: I simply agree with your joke.

But we all know neither will run away even if it means death.

In an odd scenario though:

Superman: Run away Bruce u know u can't win!

Batman: Fine but I nominate Kratos God of War in my place.

Superman: ............. That's it I am pulling the plug on your PS3.

Batman: Mommy!!!! (Heh heh! Clark doesn't know but this is kratos from GOW2 on PS2)

Kratos: How in Hades did I get mixed up in this?!