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#1 Edited by bornstar (1319 posts) - - Show Bio
Batman

Batman(bruce) has entered in marvel and has to fight some of spiderman's enemies. Batman fights each character in each round. He has 2 hour rest at the end of each battle and Dr Fate help to heal his injuries during that period. He has 30 minutes of prep for each round. fight take place in new york (spiderman location)

round 1: Chameleon

round 2: Mysterio

round 3: Dr Octopus

round 4: Shocker

round 5: Vulture

round 6: Hobgoblin

round 7: Electro

round 8: Rhino

round 9: Scorpion

round 10: Jackal

round 11: Lizard

round 12: Sandman

round 13: Green Goblin

round 14: Carnage

Round 15: Venom

Round 16: Morlun

Can batman win all rounds?

#2 Posted by Tiamat (2074 posts) - - Show Bio

@bornstar said:

Can batman win all rounds?

No.

#3 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

He can but without prep its gonna be really hard. And only an hour rest? He's a man he'll wear down... I don't think he clears it because the 16 combatants are fresh and an hour in between each fight means that if every fight last for 30 Minutes hes in 24 hours of battle mode... Give him some prep and 2 hours between battles and he clears it with new toys for Joker to play with in Arkham, new punching bags for Bane, and training dummies for Tim and Damian.
#4 Posted by isaac_clarke (5479 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruce gets murdered, I mean really, round 8 + is absurdly brutal deaths for Bruce.

#5 Posted by bornstar (1319 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

He can but without prep its gonna be really hard. And only an hour rest? He's a man he'll wear down... I don't think he clears it because the 16 combatants are fresh and an hour in between each fight means that if every fight last for 30 Minutes hes in 24 hours of battle mode... Give him some prep and 2 hours between battles and he clears it with new toys for Joker to play with in Arkham, new punching bags for Bane, and training dummies for Tim and Damian.

sorry made some changes now

#6 Posted by The Stegman (26006 posts) - - Show Bio

i'd put lizard below Electro, and say he stops at Electro

#7 Posted by bornstar (1319 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

i'd put lizard below Electro, and say he stops at Electro

made changes

#8 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
@bornstar
Thats more like it.  
 
He clears it. Bruce has shown time and time again that he is DC's Doom with prep. (not nearly to that degree but who really could?). He has defeated Wonder Woman in combat, outsmarted the Flash on more than one occasion (Wally is actually a genius), Defeated supes, defeated Green Lanterns. Killed Darkseid. This is by no means a cake walk but with prep and sufficient healing and rest time, he clears this. Unless someone has scans of Batman failing with prep then Tower of Babel is translated to the New York Nightmare in the form of a Bat. He is just as fast, above and beyond smarter, and nearly as agile as Spiderman. He's obviously a better fighter. He's a better tactician. I'm giving love to the Spidey villains don't get me wrong they are underrated yes. However if Bats is serious about this, he clears it... 
 
Ways to prove me wrong 
Prove each character has no exploitable weakness(') 
Prove Spiderman is a better fighter or better tactician 
Say Batman loses because TDK was better that Spiderman 1, 2 and 3 and its just not fair...  
 
Think of it this way... Could Captain America/Black Panther (fused) clear this?
#9 Posted by Pokeysteve (8664 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at 3. Morlun almost beat Spidey to death. He's impossibly durable and will soak anything Bruce throws at him. 30 minutes of prep isn't going to be enough. Morlun drains him within an hour and it's over.

#10 Posted by Enzeru--defunct (2893 posts) - - Show Bio
30 minutes prep are not enough for Batman to face many, many of Spider-Man's villains ... 
There are also far more Spider-Man villains out there beside the named ones ... Kraven, Hydro Man, Fusion, Morbius, Spot, Puma, Doppelganger, Jack 'O Lantern, Shriek and many many more. I ****'ING LOVE SPIDER-MAN'S ROGUE GALLERY! 
 
Chameleon VS Batman should win this one, probably rather easily, since I don't see him being tricked by Chameleon who takes the identity of Nightwing or something like that.  

Mysterio VS Batman should also win this one - He will probably find a way to get past Mysterio's illusions. 

Morlun VS Batman would lose this one badly. Morlun is way to strong, fast and durable for him - Even a regular Spider-Man failed horrbily in a random fight against Morlun. 

Shocker VS Batman would only win if he could use a gadget to knock out the Shocker ... Some kind of a gas or something, because physical damage is useless against Shocker. I personally see Batman losing this one.
 
Vulture VS Batman depends on the Vulture version, but he would take both of them. Punisher also managed to defeat the new Vulture recently. 
 
Hobgoblin VS Batman could win this one, although the new Hobgoblin is quite dangerous because of his scream. If Batman has something in his cowl against the scream, then he could pull it off, although it would be very, very, very hard. Hobgoblin can fly, has a flame-sword, many bombs and other destructive toys. 
 
Electro VS Batman should lose this one. The recent Electro could be simply too much and could maybe overload Batman's electricity protection in the suit. Then Electro can also become pure energy and stuff like that. 
 
Rhino VS Batman could only win this one if he manages to pull off a kick to Rhino's face the way Captain America managed to do it. Otherwise he would get stomped - literally.
 
Scorpion VS Batman would lose, since the current Scorpion stomps hard, even though it's still the idiot Mac Gargan in the suit. Too much power is too much power. 
 
Jackal VS Batman wins this one thanks to his skill and his gadgets.
 
Lizard VS Batman could only win this one with the perfect usage of his gadgets. Lizard is not Killer Croc, so it would be very, very hard.
 
Sandman VS Batman would lose this one.
 
Doctor Octopus VS Batman could win this one, since the recent Doctor Octopus kinda isn't in the condition for a serious fight, even though he managed to threat Spider-Man physically. With a good gadget Batman could take Doc Ock out - and only with a good gadget.
 
Green Goblin VS Batman should lose this one. Osbon is too powerful, experienced and ruthless. He can take much beating and dish out even more thanks to his deadly gadgets.
 
Venom VS Batman loses this one too. I would even go as far to say that every Venom-version would defeat Batman, even failures like Angelo Fortunato who had the symbiote for few hours.
 
Carnage VS Batman loses this one too horribly, horribly, horribly.
#11 Posted by deathlife (489 posts) - - Show Bio

Morlun shouldn't be number 3. He should be last because he's the most powerful among all of them.

As the list is, he can't get past Morlun, with or without prep.

#12 Posted by Doveland (132 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enzeru said:  
Venom VS Batman loses this one too. I would even go as far to say that every Venom-version would defeat Batman, even failures like Angelo Fortunato who had the symbiote for few hours.
 
Carnage VS Batman loses this one too horribly, horribly, horribly.
Wouldn't he STOMP these two with prep? Remember what he did to Superman in Hush with those sonics? Symbiotes would like explode in pain from his sonic gadgets.
#13 Posted by Saren (25084 posts) - - Show Bio
@Doveland said:
@Enzeru said:  
Venom VS Batman loses this one too. I would even go as far to say that every Venom-version would defeat Batman, even failures like Angelo Fortunato who had the symbiote for few hours.
 
Carnage VS Batman loses this one too horribly, horribly, horribly.
Wouldn't he STOMP these two with prep? Remember what he did to Superman in Hush with those sonics? Symbiotes would like explode in pain from his sonic gadgets.
Only if he knew the symbiotes' weakness.
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#14 Posted by bornstar (1319 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Doveland said:
@Enzeru said:
Venom VS Batman loses this one too. I would even go as far to say that every Venom-version would defeat Batman, even failures like Angelo Fortunato who had the symbiote for few hours.

Carnage VS Batman loses this one too horribly, horribly, horribly.
Wouldn't he STOMP these two with prep? Remember what he did to Superman in Hush with those sonics? Symbiotes would like explode in pain from his sonic gadgets.
Only if he knew the symbiotes' weakness.

true but batman will maybe find a way

#15 Posted by bornstar (1319 posts) - - Show Bio

made changes again

#16 Posted by TheBatman586 (6302 posts) - - Show Bio

He clears it due to prep.

#17 Posted by comicdude23 (11331 posts) - - Show Bio

@isaac_clarke said:

Bruce gets murdered, I mean really, round 8 + is absurdly brutal deaths for Bruce.

#18 Posted by MyronLee26 (1090 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

@isaac_clarke said:

Bruce gets murdered, I mean really, round 8 + is absurdly brutal deaths for Bruce.

#19 Posted by Padron (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Sound isn't that efective against carnage. During Maximum Carnage he laughed while spiderman(i guess) shot him with Reed's sonic weapon.  
#20 Posted by swadawa2 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a comic, in it, batman,spiderman fights against carnage, and batman is not die by the hands of carnage.

#21 Posted by PikminMania (4613 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Carnage or Lizard, maybe Scorpion

#22 Posted by ReVamp (22798 posts) - - Show Bio

Rhino, Carnage and Morlun are all gonna be tough acts. Not going to make it.

#23 Posted by TifaLockhart (14157 posts) - - Show Bio

@bornstar said:

Batman

Batman(bruce) has entered in marvel and has to fight some of spiderman's enemies. Batman fights each character in each round. He has 2 hour rest at the end of each battle and Dr Fate help to heal his injuries during that period. He has 30 minutes of prep for each round. fight take place in new york (spiderman location)

round 1: Chameleon

round 2: Mysterio

round 3: Dr Octopus

round 4: Shocker

round 5: Vulture

round 6: Hobgoblin

round 7: Electro

round 8: Rhino

round 9: Scorpion

round 10: Jackal

round 11: Lizard

round 12: Sandman

round 13: Green Goblin

round 14: Carnage

Round 15: Venom

Round 16: Morlun

Can batman win all rounds?

I doubt it. I'm fairly confident that his detective skills will allow him to defeat Chameleon and Mysterio, but after that it becomes a nightmare for him. I think he could take Vulture if Doc Ock and Shocker weren't in the way.

The only other one I can -maybe- see him taking down is Rhino, but that's only if Rhino is vulnerable to knockout gas, and I don't know if he is or isn't.

#24 Posted by Joygirl (19952 posts) - - Show Bio

While Bats is outmuscled here I think he can take a lot of these guys. He has a knack for using the most remote clues to his advantage. HOWEVER, this isn't much prep. Powerhouses like Scorpion, GG, and the symbiotes will probably beat him... even if he could somehow find the symbiotes weaknesses in half an hour, they're simply too fast, he likely won't even get to use his fire/sonics, and Venom can use camoflage. So I don't think he clears, no.

#25 Posted by wkar (211 posts) - - Show Bio

@ Tiamat ha detto:

@ Bornstar ha Detto:

Batman puo Vincere Tutti i turni?

No.

#26 Posted by crabtree (1613 posts) - - Show Bio

dr.octopus beats him.

#27 Posted by Padron (20 posts) - - Show Bio

 
I think there is no way he can clear round 12.  
 
 
 
How can he beat Morlun with just 30 min prep.?  
 
#28 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

Except... Batman can use his Insider suit and prep. He clears this.
#29 Posted by Nefarious (22905 posts) - - Show Bio

He loses to Doc Ock.

#30 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15040 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruce with prep and instant heal from fate should win. He took out a squad of White Martians with a matchbook

#31 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3157 posts) - - Show Bio

With no knowledge stated, his prep would be almost useless for certain characters. Batman loses round 4 to round 16 with the exception of Vulture.
#32 Posted by CODYSF (2053 posts) - - Show Bio

He is the GD Batman!!! that is all you have to know them people are fuck they will wish they want to fight Spider-man then Batman.

#33 Posted by Meat_Spinner (124 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Shocker.

No, srsly without knowledge about Shockers gear and weakness Bats can't punch-out him and i don't think his standart equipment can be much of a help

#34 Edited by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely stops at 6. Hobogoblin's sonic laugh would put Bats down.

As he doesn't know anything about him Shocker could give Bruce a good fight too.

#35 Edited by SpidermanWins (3963 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Hobgoblin or Electro (he should be higher btw)

#36 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheBatman586 said:

He clears it due to prep.
#37 Posted by jashro44 (25422 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming he has to use standered gear he wont make it past doctor octopus imo. All though with the insider suit he clears.

#38 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

He already face villains similars to these:

round 1: Chameleon - Batman wins,again another villain dependent on their equipment, it can copy any form,can pass for a Batman's assistant, but is unable to copy someone's personality. Batman already face other shpeshifters like Clayfaces,White Martians,Vamires....etc.

round 2: Mysterio - Batman wins,as the same to shocker he is dependent of his gadgets,has similar gas to Scarecrow and no fighting skills,Batman cowl has special protetction to gas. As show in Batman #647

round 3: Dr Octopus - 50/50,with special gadgets batmn win this one.

round 4: Shocker - Batman wins,Shocker is very dependent on his suit and has no ability to fight.

round 5: Vulture - Like the other villains present in this list,his dependent to his suit,doesn't have fighting skills. An explosive batarang well positioned in his wing is able to destroy his antigravity generator. C'mon the Black Cat beat him nearly to death.

round 6: Hobgoblin - Batman wins,another villain that is dependent on his gadgets and doesn't have fighting skills.

round 7: Electro - Batman loses

round 8: Rhino - 50/50,Rhino's strength and durability is a great difficulty in this battle, but with his face exposed a weakness that can be exploited, using explosives, sleep gas or cryo -capsules.

round 9: Scorpion - 50/50,the suit's durability is a great difficulty,resistant to almost all forms of physical attack, but is not invunerable to sonic attacks,light grenades (to blind him) and various types of gas (sleep gas,paralyzing gas and and a toxin created by Bruce, which induces a person to illusion of death)

round 10: Jackal - Batman wins,Batman skills is too much for him.

round 11: Lizard - Batman wins,he faced other villains with the same durability and Lizard have weakness against the cold and several other weaknesses to be exploited,cryo capsules,laser,bombs thats it.

round 12: Sandman - Batman wins,he has special gadgets against Clayfaces (There nine Clayfaces, all powers different from each other),which have the same effect against Sandman. C'mon his main weakness is water,bump.

round 13: Green Goblin - Batman wins,Both has almost similar gadgets,but batman's skill and experience is a adavantage. Batman face villains more technogical and stronger than him.

round 14: Carnage - Batman loses

Round 15: Venom - Batman wins,he weakness is sound and heat and and not lacking in utility belt devices are bombs and sonic

Round 16: Morlun - Batman loses

People attach great importance to powers and forget the skills. There's always more than one way to defeat someone more powerful than you

#39 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

Scan 1:to Doc Ock mechanic arms ,Magnetic Batarang

Scan 2:To Rhino,Batman blow up his face

Scan 3 and 7:to Vulture,Green Goblin,Hobglobin,Lizard,Shocker,Dr.Octopus,Mysterio and Chameleon,EMP blast sutdown his equipment and screwed their heads. As the same with sonics.

Scan 4,5,6:to Sandman,extreme heat can turn him in glass.

scan 8:he can escaped to fatal attacks.

scan 9:To Sandman,Lizard,Doc Ok,Shocker,Green Goblin,Hobgoblin,Chamaleon,Vulture,Jackal,Cryo Capsule With temperatures near absolute zero.

@Nefarious:

#40 Posted by Moonchilde (1601 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Doctor Octopus.

#41 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moonchilde: EMP blast blow up his head

#42 Posted by Moonchilde (1601 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Show me a scan of this EMP, cause if it's just an EMP grenade that Bat's lobs at Ocks head, then Ock just deflects it. If it's something more then that though, then I guess that would work.

#43 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Moonchilde:

look at the scan above of your comments and with my background in physics and medicine, I tell you an potent EMP blast is not only used to turn off machines, they also interfere with the electricity of the brain,its thermal energy, and radiation emissions could be fatal.

#44 Edited by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

round 6: Hobgoblin - Batman wins,another villain that is dependent on his gadgets and doesn't have fighting skills.

Actually current Hobgoblin is a beast. He's decked Spider-man twice. Batman has no way of knowing what Hobgoblins abilities are and has no way to counter his lunatic laugh(Not to mention he outclass's bats physically in every aspect):

#45 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: The batsuit's cowl has protetction against gunfire,EMP blast and sonic scream. The character be a beast is stupid,adds nothing to his personality and not of any importance,and it sounds like you do not already know,Batman faced villains more stronger and more bestial as Solomon Grundy, and Killer Croc (After Hush Virus),Scarebeast,Charaxes.

This doesn't mean nothing

#46 Posted by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Ok the sonic scream might not help Phil here. Still doesn't change the fact that he's fast enough and strong enough to go toe on toe with Spider-man. Not to mention his standard gear is far more offensive that Batman's. He also has the advantage of flight which means he can fly out of range and simply tire Bruce out with his supply of explosives, gas's etc....

#47 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: still doesn't make me change my vote. Any villain that Spiderman faces,Batman already faced before, similar or more powerful villains, he already fought the Manhunters with bare hands. They are more durable than Hobgoblin. Batman faced 50 Man-Bat ninjas,alone,they fly.

He already face other metahumans with powers to fly

#48 Posted by jashro44 (25422 posts) - - Show Bio
@matchesmalone21: Spider-man tried an EMP on vulture recently and it didn't work. I also doubt it would work on hob goblin or green goblin, I'm pretty sure an EMP wont stop a grenade. Phil was durable enough to have a car slammed over his head and he was fine. He basically whooped spider-man physically. I also doubt he would blow up rhinos face with morals on. As for venom I doubt batman will know his weakness with such a small amount of prep.  Assuming batman has to use standered gear I would say he definitely loses to venom.
 
As for your scan of batman taking down manhunters assuming there green lantern level characters (I don't read a lot of green lantern) I'm gonna have to say pis. 
 
Regardless those are some very nice scans.
#49 Posted by Meat_Spinner (124 posts) - - Show Bio

i doubt Bruce'll make it past Shocker since without actually knowing how his gear works he wouldn't even able to land a single punch on him!

And i'm pretty sure Herman has a gas filter built into his mask, don't know if his any other standart gadget would be useful against this fiend and Shocker vibro-plates would prevent Bats from grabbing him so the only way he can defeat Herman is through unconventional ways....like throwing a rock at him!....a really...BIG ROCK!

#50 Posted by BringnIt (3809 posts) - - Show Bio

Ock has classically tanked a nuke, which produces an EMP, will no discernible effect. Coupled with he fact he is one of the smartest dudes in Marvel, and even in the real world there are ways to protect from EMP's, and it is illogical to think an EMP would take Otto down.