#1 Posted by Elzio1 (120 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman thinks that Spider Man is a threat for the people of New York, and decides to take him down

  • Batman gets full knowledge of Peter's abilities, and gets 12 hours of prep, in the batcave (no plot devices)
  • Peter knows someone wants to take him down, and gets 30 min to prep against the unknown threat
  • Spider Man doesn't know who Batman is, and what he's capable of
  • Fight takes place at unpopulated New York, at night
  • Combatants start 50 feet apart from each other, visible with fair amount of cover between them
  • 616 Peter Parker, Pre-New 52 Batman

Who will take the majority here?

#2 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6171 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman knows about the Spider Sense creates a drug that negates it. Then with stealth and a little bit of trouble he takes Spiderman out.

#3 Posted by dondave (37405 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man

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#4 Edited by dondave (37405 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman knows about the Spider Sense creates a drug that negates it. Then with stealth and a little bit of trouble he takes Spiderman out.

Not in 12 hours

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#5 Posted by i_like_swords (14350 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, why do you gotta hate Spidey so much?

@dondave said:

Spider-Man

@dondave said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Batman knows about the Spider Sense creates a drug that negates it. Then with stealth and a little bit of trouble he takes Spiderman out.

Not in 12 hours

Sums it up.

#6 Edited by Zijuun (854 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

Batman knows about the Spider Sense creates a drug that negates it. Then with stealth and a little bit of trouble he takes Spiderman out.

Not in 12 hours

Yup, and besides, no plot devices, so definitely not in 12 hours.

~Still Spider-Man.

Though not as much of a stomp if it were a random encounter.

So I’d say Spider-Man wins 7/10.

Zijuun.

#7 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6171 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: @zijuun: @dondave: So he doesn't have any gases in that cave of his or some gadgets that could take down Peter. Peter what about those ice batarangs from Court of Owls? I'm not entirely convinced that Bruce doesn't have something that can take down Pete.

#8 Posted by nickzambuto (13661 posts) - - Show Bio

Gases have consistently negated Peter's spider sense before, but I really don't understand how someone could do that without extensive study of his brain. Guys like Mysterio shouldn't have any idea how his spider sense actually works, so how do they know the precise chemical formula for disabling it? It honestly seems like PIS to me more often than not. Batman isn't shutting spider sense down in 12 hours. And even if he could... let's be honest here, he'll need to punch Spider-Man about 500 times to actually KO him.

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if a strategic genius like Bruce Wayne could create some diversionary tactic to mess with the spider sense, but let's not act like he just mixes a few chemicals in a half hour and that's it.

Spider-Man still wins IMO.

#9 Edited by Visemoon (396 posts) - - Show Bio

Big Spider-Man fan here, but I don't see Peter beating a 12 hour prep time Batman in the Batcave. Everyone knows Spidey's Kryptonite is non powered humasn. He already has a rough time with people like Craptain America and Daredevil because he hold back. Batman is no different.

If this was a non preptime fight/random encounters, then the Amazing One will take the majority. But under these condition, I gotta go with the Bat

#10 Edited by Zijuun (854 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: @zijuun: @dondave: So he doesn't have any gases in that cave of his or some gadgets that could take down Peter. Peter what about those ice batarangs from Court of Owls? I'm not entirely convinced that Bruce doesn't have something that can take down Pete.

Bruce probably has still has a chance to take down peter, that's why I gave 3/10 to Batman, since Batman has 12 hours of preparation, surely he could think of something good. But they still have a wide statistic margin; Spider-Man is much stronger, faster, more durable, has much better reflexes, etc. So for that reason, Spider-Man still wins for the majority.

Zijuun.

#11 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

Bruce has plenty of stuff that could obliterate Spider-Man, but "no plot devices" is a vague enough stipulation that most of them likely wouldn't be allowed here.

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#12 Posted by nickzambuto (13661 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

Big Spider-Man fan here, but I don't see Peter beating a 12 hour prep time Batman in the Batcave. Everyone knows Spidey's Kryptonite is non powered humasn. He already has a rough time with people like Craptain America and Daredevil because he hold back. Batman is no different.

If this was a non preptime fight/random encounters, then the Amazing One will take the majority. But under these condition, I gotta go with the Bat

Spider-Man holds back on Captain America and Daredevil due to a combination of hero worship and friendship. Batman is just some dude, so Peter will have no qualms about speedblitz-oneshotting him like he did to Daredevil when he thought DD was a villain (DD is much much quicker than Batman, so if Spider-Man can blitz him then Batman gets stomped)

#13 Edited by Visemoon (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

Big Spider-Man fan here, but I don't see Peter beating a 12 hour prep time Batman in the Batcave. Everyone knows Spidey's Kryptonite is non powered humasn. He already has a rough time with people like Craptain America and Daredevil because he hold back. Batman is no different.

If this was a non preptime fight/random encounters, then the Amazing One will take the majority. But under these condition, I gotta go with the Bat

Spider-Man holds back on Captain America and Daredevil due to a combination of hero worship and friendship. Batman is just some dude, so Peter will have no qualms about speedblitz-oneshotting him like he did to Daredevil when he thought DD was a villain (DD is much much quicker than Batman, so if Spider-Man can blitz him then Batman gets stomped)

When has Peter one shotted DD?

#14 Edited by nickzambuto (13661 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:
@nickzambuto said:

@visemoon said:

Big Spider-Man fan here, but I don't see Peter beating a 12 hour prep time Batman in the Batcave. Everyone knows Spidey's Kryptonite is non powered humasn. He already has a rough time with people like Craptain America and Daredevil because he hold back. Batman is no different.

If this was a non preptime fight/random encounters, then the Amazing One will take the majority. But under these condition, I gotta go with the Bat

Spider-Man holds back on Captain America and Daredevil due to a combination of hero worship and friendship. Batman is just some dude, so Peter will have no qualms about speedblitz-oneshotting him like he did to Daredevil when he thought DD was a villain (DD is much much quicker than Batman, so if Spider-Man can blitz him then Batman gets stomped)

When has Peter one shotted DD?

Here's the scan in question. This isn't the full fight, but it's the important part. Spider-Man moved faster than Daredevil could perceive and even though Mr. Murdock knew the punch was coming, he couldn't dodge it.

I don't think Spider-Man actually oneshotted him though, I was wrong when I said that. However like I said, the important part is the fact that Daredevil could not react. So why would Batman be able to?

#15 Posted by Visemoon (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto:

I remember this, Spidey thought DD was a giant robot or something. Spidey never really goes all out on an non powered opponent. It's safe to assume he will not be going all out on Bruce. Plus Bruce get 12 hours of prep, plus the home court advantage and Spidey doesn't know what Bats is capable of?! I really don't see how he's going to pull the majority here

#16 Posted by nickzambuto (13661 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nickzambuto:

I remember this, Spidey thought DD was a giant robot or something. Spidey never really goes all out on an non powered opponent. It's safe to assume he will not be going all out on Bruce. Plus Bruce get 12 hours of prep, plus the home court advantage and Spidey doesn't know what Bats is capable of?! I really don't see how he's going to pull the majority here

These two statements contradict each other. Batman's greatest weapon, fear, is going to work against him here; Spidey might think he's some kind of demon and end up killing him accidently :P

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#19 Posted by pein2010 (94 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman in an uttermegastomp

#20 Edited by TDK_1997 (14892 posts) - - Show Bio

With 12 hours of prep Batman can easily think of something to counter Peter's advantages in the fight and eventually outskill him and probably outsmart him.But Spidey still has the power and speed advantage but in the end I can see Batman winning.

#21 Posted by Visemoon (396 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nickzambuto:

I remember this, Spidey thought DD was a giant robot or something. Spidey never really goes all out on an non powered opponent. It's safe to assume he will not be going all out on Bruce. Plus Bruce get 12 hours of prep, plus the home court advantage and Spidey doesn't know what Bats is capable of?! I really don't see how he's going to pull the majority here

These two statements contradict each other. Batman's greatest weapon, fear, is going to work against him here; Spidey might think he's some kind of demon and end up killing him accidently :P

LOL

#22 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman knows about the Spider Sense creates a drug that negates it. Then with stealth and a little bit of trouble he takes Spiderman out.

#23 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5054 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman still stomps.

#24 Posted by Elzio1 (120 posts) - - Show Bio

This isn't a stomp, I believe that the main factor here is that Batman knows Peter's abilities, and Spider has never even seen Bruce in his life, Batman knows how much beating Peter can take, this battle takes place in an unpopulated new york, nothing stops batman from using explosives on spidey, but I wouldn't count Spider Man out

Could go either way, definitively not a stomp

#25 Edited by Jgames (1686 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman have a shark repellent, he just create a spider repellent fir spidey XD

#26 Edited by Sama_el (169 posts) - - Show Bio

IT'S freaking batman! if he keep he's head in the game he cant lose, he even doesnt need a super gas thing, or explosives, we can and would won this fight if a simple cellphone...

#27 Posted by Elzio1 (120 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#28 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey ftw

#29 Posted by Elzio1 (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@bane_of_sith: Please explain why, I'd like to hear your arguments

#30 Posted by Elzio1 (120 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#31 Posted by Diamondlifer1 (128 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey stomps him