#1 Posted by XMen1963 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, Holmes, and the Mentalist are trying to solve a seemingly impossible murder case. Nobody has outside help from anyone (including batcave) or anything. Who solves it first?

#2 Posted by HumanNumber (1466 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm leaning towards Jane on this one, he solves murders with very little to no evidence at all effortlessly.

#3 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@HumanNumber said:

I'm leaning towards Jane on this one, he solves murders with very little to no evidence at all effortlessly.

#4 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Bats. He solves the Joker's seemingly nonsensical plans time and time again.

#5 Posted by Goldfinch (235 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Bats. He solves the Joker's seemingly nonsensical plans time and time again.

Mentalist and Sherlock Holmes are better detectives than Batman. Why because Batman heavily relies on high-tech, while Sherlock and Mentalist don't.

#6 Posted by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman very easy.

#7 Posted by chaos-soul (1435 posts) - - Show Bio

isn't their a non canon story of batman being trained by sherlock holms?

#8 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#9 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio

Jane or Sherlock ...But Sherlock will solves it faster than Jane...

Batman isn't really a deductive type of Detective. He relied to much on tech and often deal with those obvious villains or murderer.

But Jane isn't. He almost everytime played everyone like a rat...or setup a very neat trap to lure the murderer out. He figure out all these when he is sleeping on his couch!.

#10 Posted by The_Roman (3297 posts) - - Show Bio

Patrick Jane figures it out with no evidence, then takes Holmes and Batman for a coffee.

#11 Posted by Eightworldwarriors (57 posts) - - Show Bio

@Goldfinch said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Bats. He solves the Joker's seemingly nonsensical plans time and time again.

Mentalist and Sherlock Holmes are better detectives than Batman. Why because Batman heavily relies on high-tech, while Sherlock and Mentalist don't.

Batman didn't rely on tech when he deduced Amazo repairing himself with nanites which baffled even Superman. He didn't use tech when he figured Martian was a telepath either. I've read a majority of the Doyle novels and short stories, and watched a good chunk of the Mentalist and neither of these characters are in the same league as Bruce or even the Question when it comes to deductive abilities or logical reasoning. Objectively speaking he operates on a much higher scale than either of these 2 do.

#12 Posted by Eightworldwarriors (57 posts) - - Show Bio

@GodDamnIronMan said:

Jane or Sherlock ...But Sherlock will solves it faster than Jane...

Batman isn't really a deductive type of Detective. He relied to much on tech and often deal with those obvious villains or murderer.

But Jane isn't. He almost everytime played everyone like a rat...or setup a very neat trap to lure the murderer out. He figure out all these when he is sleeping on his couch!.

Not even remotely true, if you read Batman you would know that the majority of his deductive and logical reasoning feats are without the use of tech.

#13 Edited by Rick_Grayson (774 posts) - - Show Bio

During Batman R.I.P while he is trying to explain to Jezebel Jet why he has to be the way he is to succeed as Batman he discusses the implications of a clue that had been left at a scene.
 
I can't find a scan but based on one tiny detail (I think it may have been a number) he goes through a list of everything he has to know the second he finds clues or some one could die. This list goes through things like basic numerology and alphabet, to the zodiac, religion and mythology and as he says this is just the beginning of what he has to know (I'm not 100% on the things that are mentioned, just showing how obscure it gets on the most minute detail). 
 
He considers these things in his head in one sentence, while explaining himself to someone. I don't believe the other 2 here could possibly consider so many different things at once.

#14 Posted by Eightworldwarriors (57 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rick_Grayson: Truth is even Dick is probably a better detective than Holmes and Jane are

How many people can solve kidnapping and murder cases just by watching TV? Holmes and Jane wouldn't be able to.

#15 Posted by Om4zd (920 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

As a child on his first unofficial case he showcases his natural talent as the amazing detective we know him to be now by tracking down the Court of Owl's secret hideout.

Despite being extremely fatigued, very badly injuried, and having hallucinated for numerous days (see the Endurance stamina section to see how hurt he is) he's still able to correctly deduce where he is within Gotham while being trapped inside the Court of Owl's secret labyrinth.

After fighting him briefly he deduces that The Wrath is not the original who he first fought but is someone new in the costume who's younger and even better.

In their first meeting, he quickly deduces Martian Manhunter is a telepath amazing J'onn.

Despite being disguised (shapeshifted) as a japanese female journalist, he's still able to recognize who Martian Manhunter is based on the name J'onn was using in addition to his unique martian body language.

Batman is reported as having deduced in 5 minutes flat that the JSA's Thunderbolt is, in reality, a fifth-dimensional imp.

Through observation he notices how a blind Wonder Woman is adapting to the Flash's super speed attacks by the way she senses the changes in air pressure around her.

Amazes Superman with his deductive reasoning as he correctly deduces that Amazo has nanites that repair it's nervous system despite not having X-Ray vision like the Man of Steel.

Deduces that the Moon is slowly falling back to Earth before anyone else even notices.

Brainiac 5 (alien super genius from the 31st century with a 12th level intellect) fails to deduce what Batman was able to which is that the Haruspex will only fire when its target is perceived as a threat.

After finding a single hair strand from a previous crime scene he's quickly able to analyse it on the spot then point out who it belongs to out of the large pile of men in the room solving the case for the police.

By examining the murder weapon, Batman deduces that Harvey Dent isn't the one who has been killing super villains, but he's being framed.

Finds out that a seemingly ressurrected/never died Blue Beetle (aka Ted Kord) is, in reality, a shapeshifter, despite the latter can replicate Kord's DNA perfectly.

Shows to a surprised Vigilante that he knows who she is in reality, despite seeing her for the first time in her costumed alter-ego.

#16 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Roman said:

Patrick Jane figures it out with no evidence, then takes Holmes and Batman for a coffee.

#17 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (17277 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#18 Posted by songoku1 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Sherlock or mentalist

#19 Edited by dondave (37299 posts) - - Show Bio

Shawn Spencer Psychic Detective ftw

#20 Posted by JamesWest007 (326 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Shawn Spencer Psychic Detective ftw

LOL, For the Win!

#21 Posted by SideburnGuru (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

I've grown to learn that people should never put Batman in Battles on here.

Patrick Jane, by far.

#22 Edited by Goldfinch (235 posts) - - Show Bio

@Goldfinch said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Bats. He solves the Joker's seemingly nonsensical plans time and time again.

Mentalist and Sherlock Holmes are better detectives than Batman. Why because Batman heavily relies on high-tech, while Sherlock and Mentalist don't.

Batman didn't rely on tech when he deduced Amazo repairing himself with nanites which baffled even Superman. He didn't use tech when he figured Martian was a telepath either. I've read a majority of the Doyle novels and short stories, and watched a good chunk of the Mentalist and neither of these characters are in the same league as Bruce or even the Question when it comes to deductive abilities or logical reasoning. Objectively speaking he operates on a much higher scale than either of these 2 do.

So, what Mentalist and Poirot know who the killer is by just reading them, Holmes, Monk, Poirot and Jane would easily detect Amazo's nanites and Martian Manhunter being a telepath, all of that you mentioned hase been replicated by the mentioned fictional detectives.

#23 Posted by Goldfinch (235 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Shawn Spencer Psychic Detective ftw

LOL, For the Win!

Shawn Spencer is absolutely nothing comapred to Holmes, Monk, Poirot and Mentalist.

@Goldfinch said:

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Bats. He solves the Joker's seemingly nonsensical plans time and time again.

Mentalist and Sherlock Holmes are better detectives than Batman. Why because Batman heavily relies on high-tech, while Sherlock and Mentalist don't.

Batman didn't rely on tech when he deduced Amazo repairing himself with nanites which baffled even Superman. He didn't use tech when he figured Martian was a telepath either. I've read a majority of the Doyle novels and short stories, and watched a good chunk of the Mentalist and neither of these characters are in the same league as Bruce or even the Question when it comes to deductive abilities or logical reasoning. Objectively speaking he operates on a much higher scale than either of these 2 do.

So, what Mentalist and Poirot know who the killer is by just reading them, Holmes, Monk, Poirot and Jane would easily detect Amazo's nanites and Martian Manhunter being a telepath, all of that you mentioned hase been replicated by the mentioned fictional detectives.