Batman vs Nightwing and Red Hood

New 52 only

Hyperbolic Time Chamber ( normal gravity )

No gear, just suits

Morals off

start relatively close to each other

Batman.

Bruce.

Batman.

Team, Nightwing already gave Bruce absolute hell in a no gear one on one before.

Team. I don't see Batman taking this.

The mentor

Team. Current Jason is on Venom.

Bruce

Batman is stronger than them, faster than them, more durable than them, much more skilled than them, has much more experience than them, much better gear than them, much more tacticle minded than them, etc...he only loses in raw agility to Dick, everything else goes to Bruce, he wins.

Some of Jason's stats have increased to levels beyond that of Batman's and Dick has given him a good fight, together they could take this especially seeing as Bruce doesn't get his gear.

Yes, but i was talking "feat-wise"...Jason still has few feats "on venom", he impressed Supergirl, who was holding back, also he didn't anything to her.

Nightwing has a PIS stallemate on the last issue of his series Nightwing #30 - Setting Son and i'm calling it PIS, because, not only Nightwing is not good enough to stallemate Batman, but the vast majority of their fights, have Batman being portrayed as being WAY above him, as it should be.

Bane is also "on venom"...and if i made a Batman vs Bane thread right now, we all know who would get more votes...Jason is just being "wanked" here, as usual.

@bat_girl_cc: Batman has no gear here. No one does.

I think nightwing and red hood will win 9/10 due to teamwork, venom, and all blades.

Didn't fought about that...that maybe be a game changer...without gear or prep...with Nightwing and Red Hood attacking him at the same time, Jason is likely to hit Bruce with the all blades...and that would be game over.

Didn't remembered the all blades...yeah, team probably takes it.

Batman. I wouldn't give Jason a majority over bane. Nightwing would get embarrassed by both now.

Nightwing is faster than Bruce and Jason is more ruthless together they would destroy a batman without prep

New 52 team MIGHT win. But still, I think Batman.

That ridiculous feat is what you're basing your argument on? If you want to play it that way, Batman beat down the Titan Super Gladiator, who fought Superman.

Please post evidence that isn't a wiki or a statement that proves Nightwing is either faster or more agile. You won't be able to.

@thebourneposter:

http://i.imgur.com/n1CFbJt.jpgis this enough proof or do i need more?

@gabrielzamarron52: A) That's a statement B) It's pre-New 52 C) Batman has absolutely embarrassed Nightwing in combat if we're using pre-52 feats, easily outmaneuvering him and dodging all his strikes D) Batman has far better speed and agility feats.

@thebourneposter:

Can I see some proof to your claim that isnt a wiki or a statement?

@gabrielzamarron52: I'm glad you asked! This thread is New 52, so please don't post anything pre-52 to substantiate your argument. Besides, if it is pre-52, Nightwing has far inferior speed and agility feats.

I'll just start with that one feat, Batman was fast enough to raise his arm and deflect gunfire, that was a surprise attack.

@thebourneposter:

Sorry for the pre-52 and saying something isnt really proof so can you show me what you're talking about?

@gabrielzamarron52: I'm saying that Batman has better speed and agility feats than Nightwing does. Statements don't matter to me. I just posted one pretty standard feat for Batman above.

@gabrielzamarron52: Well The team wins my friend :O thats all i gotta say lol

@icecold14:

Ya I'm for the team sorry for the mix up

@gabrielzamarron52: Its alright man

I say Batman in a tough fight.

Batman and Dick would have a decent fight but Batman would Nerve strikes Nightwing (Modified Din Mark style). Plus he is way more skilled that Dick and Jason combined.

And deals with venom Jason with some trouble (because Batman has delt with venom before and nothings new about it).

Also lets not forget about how durable Batman Suit is let alone Bruce.

Jason is OP these days. lol

since when has jason been on venom?

@gabrielzamarron52: Still batman is more skilled in fighting and more durable than Nightwing also even with his agility and speed Batman still beat him.

As for Jason in The comic under the red hood fought Batman Bloodlusted and beat him. Also hes taken on bloodlusted Bane on Venom and won.

And this is bloodlusted Bruce which he will be using moves like the Lepoards Blow and Din Mark Touuch to win. And his full knowledge of fighting in order to win.

@bat_girl_cc: Jason doent get the all blades no gear just suits.

Batman.

@lxlgiftedlxl: You can't really compare fighting Bane and fighting Jason, even if they are on Venom. Jason is far more skilled than Bane. It would be like Batman fighting himself with super strength.

Batman is good, but not even Batman is going to fight two fighters with youth and their own specialties on their side. Batman is used to fighting multiple people with skill far below his. I don't think the the gap between Grayson, Dick, and Bruce is substantial.

@scouterv: Goodpoints

However I feel that the gap between there skills are substantial I mean Jason and Dick great fighters and by no means am I trying to downplay there skills but I feel bruce is far better. Im saying this because you know Batman Mastered 127 Fighting styles which they changed to every fighting style, Knows 463 ways to incap a person w/o drawing blood, and knowing every nerve strike on the human body. I say this because it is stated and shown, just as dick is stated and shown to be faster and more agile than bruce.

Im saying with his Knowledge of fighting and since it is blood lusted Bruce he will use moves like the Nerve Strikes and the deadly one and The lepoards blow.

I would say it would be very very tough fight for Bruce but I would give it to Bruce 5-6/10 IMO.

@eclipsebat: Since Red Hood and the Outlaws Issue 36 Venomus.

@lxlgiftedlxl: But that's just it. Bruce lacks the strength to hang with Jason and lacks the speed to keep pace with Dick, and Jason has pulled out his own special strikes as well.

I just don't see Bruce being able to keep up with what are essentially younger versions of himself, but stronger and faster respectively.

Batman's Power Cosmic should be enough to handle Red Hood's Infinity Edge. As for Nightwing, the guy was beaten by GALACTUS of all people. The same Galactus who was killed by a gunshot wound which got infected with ebola. Nightwing isn't even a factor here. Batman wins just as easily as he beat Master Yi,

The Goddamn Batman

Batman wins.

@thebourneposter: Good Points, I can see where your coming from.

Just putting it out there now.

Jason on Venom has speed and strength feats below Menace (a Batwing villain on Snakebite), why is he going to do well against a MORALS OFF Batman. PIS is off. Batman beat the crap out of Bane right after Bane had dosed on Venom in melee combat. Without gear.

Bruce Wayne dishes out lethal strikes from the start of the fight.

Jason could arguably solo. the two of them curb stomp

I am leaning towards the former robins, since this is N52.