Nightwing is the next generation Batman he's faster, He may not be smarter but he sure aint dumb.He's Kobe Bryant and granny bats is Jordan.
Batman vs Nightwing
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Neither, they'd never fight each other (she says virtuously) that said... NIGHTWING! he'd kick Batman's aging ass.
Nightwing is barely faster that is all, and the difference in speed is so small that it doesn't even matter. Batman is stronger, more durable, smarter, has more experience, is better trained, and knows Nightwing better than Nightwing knows him. Nightwing is better than Bruce was at that age, but not better than he is now. The only way Nightwing would win was if he fought Bruce when he was the same age as Dick is now and was still learning.
Buckshot says:
"Nightwing is *barely* faster that is all, and the difference in speed is so small that it doesn't even matter. Batman is stronger, more durable, smarter, has more experience, is better trained, and knows Nightwing better than Nightwing knows him. Nightwing is better than Bruce was at that age, but not better than he is now. The only way Nightwing would win was if he fought Bruce when he was the same age as Dick is now and was still learning. "
I agree. Batman is a much stronger fighter, he's smarter, etc., what he said. He's got more gadgets and he taught Dick everything he knows. It's like Silver Surfer and Galactus.
I think Nightwing could have the upper hand 'cause Bruce wouldn't want to hurt him. That was Tim's reasoning. Sure maybe Bruce could find a way to incapacitate Dick without doing permanent damage but he'd have to before Dick got to him. Bruce has admited that Tim will be better than he is.
G-Man says:
"I think Nightwing could have the upper hand 'cause Bruce wouldn't want to hurt him. That was Tim's reasoning. Sure maybe Bruce could find a way to incapacitate Dick without doing permanent damage but he'd have to before Dick got to him. Bruce has admited that Tim will be better than he is."
Key word there "will be" is not yet.
Getting your back broken counts as a move?
I'm not saying Nigthwing compares to Bats as a fighter buy I'm sure he too has learned something from all his years as leader of the Titans and currently the Outsiders. I still say Bruce's emotions would prevent him from fully going all out on Dick (or Tim). That would be a slight advantage for them. Enough? Probably not.
Well if we're talking about the wonderful "All Star Batman and Robin," because Batman made him eat rats.
I don't know if Dick would ever go all out. Bruce has more emotional issues. He's always kept them locked up for the most part. As crazy as a life as Dick has had, his has been a little closer to some normalicy. He's had the chance to "hang out" with friends (in the Titans) and has had actual relationships with Starfire and Babs. Bruce needs Dick more than Dick would need Bruce.
Or maybe not.
Bruce wins, because he DOESN"T HAVE those connections you discussed, G-Man. He's almost inhuman. No family, few friends. It's not a limitation.
Fourpower says:
"Bruce wins, because he DOESN"T HAVE those connections you discussed, G-Man. He's almost inhuman. No family, few friends. It's not a limitation."
Yeah not many people like him.
LOL really who come sup with this....
Batman would liteally destroy dick, but we can say that wont happen, he choose to blown both the cave and though him and dick down a hole when dick was crazy evil THE DKR,
and dick has hard enough time with todd, who returned.
Dick even cry when bats picks someone else to wear the mantle of the bat( when bane breaks bats) why not me...bruce
emtions.. lol yeah right, when it time to fight these are the last one who blak
Theirs nothing be shown that dick could handle bat, remeber when they fought the baddies as dick grew up, bat came up with the plans BATS, dick only copying, now im not saying that means dick cant think..lol But bats never forgets or under esimate he would have a file and backup plan named dick, even goes as far to just look and tim drake and turn off teh com when they ask him in jla "babbles" if he did have one after ra al ghoul(demon head) broke in the bat system and stole BATS plan to deal with all teh jla and herso of dc.. does dick do that nooooo, he plays chases girls and has happy life, maybe a evil evil assian league nightwing may come closer but dick is done..
Lets just say if it came down to it nightwing would give bats a run, but would run out run..
Dick isn't nearly as experienced nor as disciplined nor as well rounded as Bruce. Pupil doesn't beat the master
I think this is what sync was trying to say(It was the best I could do, It like a dam code.)
LOL really who come sup with this....
Batman would literally destroy dick, But we can’t say that this wont happen, he has already blown both the cave and threw him and dick down a hole when dick was evil in THE DKR.
Dick has hard enough time with dealing with Jason Todd, when he returned,Also.
Dick even cries when Batman picks someone else to wear the mantle of the bat in Knight fall.
There has been nothing shown that Dick could handle Bruce, remember when they fought the Rouges when dick was robin, Bat’s came up with the plans. BATS, not Dick, Nightwing is only copying.
Now I’m not saying that means dick cant think, lol But bats never forgets or under estimate, He would have a file and backup plan named Dick Grayson.
He even goes as far as to just look and Tim Drake and turn off the JLA com, When they ask him in "babbles" if he did have one after ra al ghoul(demon head) broke into the bat system and stole Bat’s plan to deal with all the Justice League and the hero’s of dc.
Does dick do that no, He chases girls and has a happy life, maybe a evil assassin league Nightwing may come closer but dick could not do it.
Lets just say if it came down to it Nightwing would give Bat’s a run, But would run out of steam.
Batman would win because just as Buckshot stated earlier, Batman is currently stronger, more durable, much more experienced and is truly intelligent. Nightwing might be able to hold his own for a short while, but eventually, Bruce would out do Dick.
Batman
I still think that one day with enough training Dick can surpass him, but right now Batman is a beast.
on a side note: I really want a Bruce/Dick fight done well, don't care who wins
Batman: better fighter, better detective, better stealth, better trained, better funded, better at escape arts, never wore yellow, never sported a mullet, etc.
Batman wins.
Batman taught Dick. He knows Dick's style of fighting, and he's stronger, smarter, and more skilled. He's just barely slower than Nightwing, not enough to make much of a difference. But they wouldn't fight anyways.
@SlimJ87D said:
A more interesting fight would be Batman vs Nightwing at around the same age.
So if Nightwing is like 27, then how would Batman at 27 fair against him?
That would only be meaningful if both had been training the same amount by then. If at 27 one had been training for 10 years and one for 1 year, what would you learn to learn that the one training for 10 years wins the fight?
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