Batman vs light Yagami

#1 Posted by jashro44 (9283 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio
VS

Rules

  • Kira has come to Gotham city in order to kill the criminals of Gotham and batman being batman decides to try and stop him
  • Batman is trying to deduce who Kira is, Kira finds out about this and is trying to do what ever he can to deduce batmans identity and put an end to the dark knight
  • Morals are on
  • Batman is restricted to resources in Gotham only, he cannot call the watch tower for back up, use watch tower tech or anything like that

So can batman find out who Kira is or will his name end up in the death note?

#2 Posted by heroesgold (320 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Kira. Give Bats some prep time.

#3 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1871 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Batman. I'm pretty sure he has a higher intellect than L.

#4 Posted by jashro44 (9283 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@heroesgold said:

Kira. Give Bats some prep time.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

Batman. I'm pretty sure he has a higher intellect than L.

Different opinions I see....

#5 Posted by The_Soverighn (1763 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Bruce And I Think This Has Been Done

#6 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

what do you mean morals on?

light be killing people man

#7 Posted by *Void* (874 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

One problem. What if Light decides to kill Bruce Wayne for totally unrelated reasons?

#8 Posted by jashro44 (9283 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@RumbleMan_Exe said:

what do you mean morals on?

light be killing people man

There both in character.

@*Void* said:

One problem. What if Light decides to kill Bruce Wayne for totally unrelated reasons?

Assume he wont.

#9 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44: Light gets batarang in his shoulder

#10 Posted by Ferdelance (2325 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Batman

#11 Posted by jashro44 (9283 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@RumbleMan_Exe said:

@jashro44: Light gets batarang in his shoulder

This isn't a head to head fight. Batman has to deduce Lights identity and light has to figure who batman is.

#12 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44:

same outcome replace gunshot with batarang and angst moment with brutal beatdown

#13 Posted by nickzambuto (7809 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

I don't remember Death Note very much, but Light was a pretty clever dude from what I recall. Can go either way.

#14 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2773 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Well I don't think Batman's identity would be that hard to deduce, especially for someone like Light. Its beyond me how no one guessed Bruce as Batman over the years. Personally I think Light would figure out Batman's identity faster than Bruce would figure out Light's.

#15 Posted by *Void* (874 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Well I don't think Batman's identity would be that hard to deduce, especially for someone like Light. Its beyond me how no one guessed Bruce as Batman over the years. Personally I think Light would figure out Batman's identity faster than Bruce would figure out Light's.

Thats true. Who would have enough money to afford all that crap, look for all the rich people and deduce from there. If that doesnt work kill all rich rich people or hold Gotham ransom.

#16 Posted by The Stegman (13064 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Light wins fairly easily. 
 
1. Bruce would have to 1st, have to narrow down in a city of MILLIONS who Kira would be. I highly doubt that he will figure out that it's Light Yagami, who keeps a pretty low profile.  The only reason L had an idea, was due to Light using Police Databases, which led L to realize that Kira had to have some connection with the police force, thus either an agent, or a relative of an agent. 
 
2. It's pretty easy for Light to figure out who Batman is, first, you'll need money to have the type of weapons/gadgets Batman has, thus, he will have to be rich, second, Batman operates in Gotham, meaning he probably lives there, third, any basic Psychology course can tell you that someone had to go through some trauma or loss to make someone go to such lengths as to become Batman. After putting all this together (like Bane did) Bruce Wayne is the obvious choice. 

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#17 Posted by SpideyPresence (1667 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Light because

@The Stegman said:

Light wins fairly easily. 1. Bruce would have to 1st, have to narrow down in a city of MILLIONS who Kira would be. I highly doubt that he will figure out that it's Light Yagami, who keeps a pretty low profile. The only reason L had an idea, was due to Light using Police Databases, which led L to realize that Kira had to have some connection with the police force, thus either an agent, or a relative of an agent. 2. It's pretty easy for Light to figure out who Batman is, first, you'll need money to have the type of weapons/gadgets Batman has, thus, he will have to be rich, second, Batman operates in Gotham, meaning he probably lives there, third, any basic Psychology course can tell you that someone had to go through some trauma or loss to make someone go to such lengths as to become Batman. After putting all this together (like Bane did) Bruce Wayne is the obvious choice.
#18 Posted by DarkKnightDetective (6750 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@*Void* said:

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Well I don't think Batman's identity would be that hard to deduce, especially for someone like Light. Its beyond me how no one guessed Bruce as Batman over the years. Personally I think Light would figure out Batman's identity faster than Bruce would figure out Light's.

Thats true. Who would have enough money to afford all that crap, look for all the rich people and deduce from there. If that doesnt work kill all rich rich people or hold Gotham ransom.

I assume there are a lot more rich people in Gotham, killing all the rich people in Gotham is out of character for Light, he only kills the guilty and people that get on his way, not the innocent. And also It wouldn't be hard to deduce that Kira is Light, I mean out of nowhere Light appears and criminals in Gotham start to die, then there is the fact that Batman would investigate Light's task force from up close without him even noticing. Batman wouldn't even have to get into Light's house/apartment to have survilance on him 24/7.

#19 Posted by The Stegman (13064 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio
@DarkKnightDetective:  
 


@*Void* said:

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Well I don't think Batman's identity would be that hard to deduce, especially for someone like Light. Its beyond me how no one guessed Bruce as Batman over the years. Personally I think Light would figure out Batman's identity faster than Bruce would figure out Light's.

Thats true. Who would have enough money to afford all that crap, look for all the rich people and deduce from there. If that doesnt work kill all rich rich people or hold Gotham ransom.

I assume there are a lot more rich people in Gotham, killing all the rich people in Gotham is out of character for Light, he only kills the guilty and people that get on his way, not the innocent. And also It wouldn't be hard to deduce that Kira is Light, I mean out of nowhere Light appears and criminals in Gotham start to die, then there is the fact that Batman would investigate Light's task force from up close without him even noticing. Batman wouldn't even have to get into Light's house/apartment to have survilance on him 24/7. 

Why would Batman even notice that Light has come to town? it's not like he's gonna make some front page news, "Strange Japanese student comes to town!!!'' Hundreds come and leave Gotham all the time, it would be impossible for anyone to notice Light, he is seemingly normal, as for the Task Force, what Task Force? OP didn't mention anything about Light getting the Task Force as well, from what I gather, it's just Light, a Death Note, and maybe Ryuk.
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#20 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2773 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: So you're telling me that somehow Batman is going to deduce Light as Kira, despite him being a normal person coming into Gotham? Light doesn't walk around with a light on his head saying he kills people. Its more likely for Batman to be figured out, since its common knowledge Batman's parents were killed, he is the richest person in Gotham, Bruce publicly endorses Batman, etc. Light in the manga was able to deduce things with a lot less information, with all that information I posted above, it wouldn't that difficult for him to figure it out. Batman on the other hand wouldn't know who is killing criminals, since criminals die all the time in Gotham City. There would be a list of people that Batman would suspect before he even thought of Light. Batman doesn't know who comes and out of Gotham City on a daily basis, Light is literally a face in a crowd. Bruce's attention would focused on something else, since Batman, first off, wouldn't know about Light's death note, nor how it works. These criminals are dying, either by heart attack or through some other elaborate means that Light can come up with in his journal. Batman would be totally stumped by this and for the most part at first glance, wouldn't think it was magic or anything outside of science, and thus would lead to many different conclusions. All Light needs to do is figure Batman's identity. While Batman has to start his investigation from scratch. Its a race against time which quite frankly, Batman won't win.

#21 Posted by DarkKnightDetective (6750 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@The Stegman: I'm assuming this is post-Death Note events with the alternative ending

#22 Posted by *Void* (874 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: Gotham is DCs version of New York (I think) Batman would have to investigate every immigrant and visitor. He doesn't have time for that. I doubt Light would keep himself on the grid if he realized batman was investigating visitors. Was light given his Task Force in this fight? Light would probably manipulate people so they would draw Bruces attention. While he does this he manipulates criminals, corrupt politicians and corrupt rich people into making Batmans job extremely difficult making the dark knight extremely exhausted. After this Light simply watches to see which Rich guy is suffering from fatigue or has started toact too different. Bruce Wayne being who he is it wouldn't be too hard to realize, after this its a simple game of manipulating the people around Bruce. If this doesn't work and Batman starts to get a clue to who Light is light would just go crazy and kill everyone. By the way even if Batman somehow suspects Light and starts to watch him what is going to see? A teenage boy obsessively writing in his journal?

#23 Posted by The Stegman (13064 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio
@DarkKnightDetective: that video looks like it's fan made to me, a bunch of scenes spliced together to make a fake alternate ending. 
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#24 Posted by SHARKBEARAGATOR (1543 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

And now for a comment of irrelevance

Joker kills Light :P

#25 Posted by The Stegman (13064 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio
@*Void*:  

 @DarkKnightDetective : Gotham is DCs version of New York (I think) Batman would have to investigate every immigrant and visitor. He doesn't have time for that. I doubt Light would keep himself on the grid if he realized batman was investigating visitors. Was light given his Task Force in this fight? Light would probably manipulate people so they would draw Bruces attention. While he does this he ma nipulates criminals, corrupt politicians and corrupt rich people into making Batmans job extremely difficult making the dark knight extremely exhausted. After this Light simply watches to see which Rich guy is suffering from fatigue or has started toact too different. Bruce Wayne being who he is it wouldn't be too hard to realize, after this its a simple game of manipulating the people around Bruce. If this doesn't work and Batman starts to get a clue to who Light is light would just go crazy and kill everyone. By the way even if Batman somehow suspects Light and starts to watch him what is going to see? A teenage boy obsessively writing in his journal?


Gotta agree, there are a few ways Light can win, I like Batman I do, but in this scenario, Light has all the advantages, add to it the fact that Light is ridiculously smart, smart enough to think months ahead of everyone else (including L) He made a plan that manipulated many other people while he had no memories of being Kira, was locked up, and under tight surveillance, and STILL his plan went through flawlessly, and he retained his memories, after three months, that's insane. 
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#26 Posted by DarkKnightDetective (6750 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@The Stegman: I'm sorry I gave you the wrong video, there is a alternative ending where N dies though but I can't seem to find it.

#27 Posted by Soothing_Sounds (1104 posts) - 5 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

I think Batman to be a genius, perhaps on par or even above Kira in smarts, but the tides are too far against him for him to win this.

#28 Posted by NeonGameWave (5112 posts) - 3 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

If Batman has prep, he wins.

#29 Posted by e3zombie (704 posts) - 3 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

Light wins fairly easily. 1. Bruce would have to 1st, have to narrow down in a city of MILLIONS who Kira would be. I highly doubt that he will figure out that it's Light Yagami, who keeps a pretty low profile. The only reason L had an idea, was due to Light using Police Databases, which led L to realize that Kira had to have some connection with the police force, thus either an agent, or a relative of an agent. 2. It's pretty easy for Light to figure out who Batman is, first, you'll need money to have the type of weapons/gadgets Batman has, thus, he will have to be rich, second, Batman operates in Gotham, meaning he probably lives there, third, any basic Psychology course can tell you that someone had to go through some trauma or loss to make someone go to such lengths as to become Batman. After putting all this together (like Bane did) Bruce Wayne is the obvious choice.
#30 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (4574 posts) - 3 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Its beyond me how no one guessed Bruce as Batman over the years.

lol this :)

#31 Posted by killface47 (1 posts) - 1 month, 23 days ago - Show Bio

There is no doudt that light would deduce bruce is batman (hell if bane could do it...) and that batman could deduce that kira is light. It would be a matter of who could do it first. I think it could go either way. I dont need to explain kira's method it's already been pretty well established by other posts. Batman however has some advantages that have not been addressed. First being is batman bruce or is bruce batman. there have been several instances in which batman has been exposed to supernatrural entities of truth and has hinted that the cape and cowl are his true face. If the deathnote recognizes him in the same light then kira would never think to actualy write batman as a ligit way to address him. Atleast not before his identity has been discovered first. As soon as writing bruce doesnt work he wold move on to other suspects. Another advantage is the shere fact that he has experince with the supernatrural. L was able to atleast have suspition without any knowledge of the supernatrural... and it wouldn't take the watchtower for him to realize this was also going on in japan. He would look at the paterns there with the bat computer and come to the same conclusion as L and as soon as he see's that the police comisioners extremely intellegent son just moved to gothem it would be case closed.

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