@saren:
Most of the characters he's fighting actually do have a tremendously long resume of hand to hand combat showings. Just because they are fighting at superhuman levels doesn't mean they aren't using any technique or skill at all.
People just seem to discredit their martial skill by the fact they have powers, as if every single opponent they go up against were much weaker than they were in stats so it was just the powers doing all the work. That simply isn't the case. Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Superman all face opponents just as strong if not stronger than they are, and come out on top due to superior skill in combat, both in utilizing their powers or simply through martial arts skill.
Is there really a much larger disparity of skill needed between Batman beating Grundy or Superman beating Doomsday?
I dunno. It just feels like there's a huge bias against powered characters when people talk about skill. It takes a great deal of skill to defeat an opponent equal to or stronger than yourself, it doesn't matter at what scale you're fighting at.
Hopefully someone with scans will come along with a better argument then I could make. I just don't see Batman taking on five opponents at once when two are advanced martial artists themselves (One arguably being his equal), one is at least an expert combatant at this point, and the fourth has basic military training.
I certainly don't see Batman one shotting anyone here except perhaps Barry.
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