Batman VS Jor-El (movie versions)

Batman

VS

Jor-El

Location: Zods Ship

Rules: Random Encounter

• Morals On/In Character
• No Prep
• H2H Only
• DKR Batman - Equipped With His Upgraded Armor and a Kryptonian Rebreather
• MOS Jor-El - Equipped With His Golden Armor and Clean Gotee
• Win By Incapacitation / Knockout

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To be honest I'd take Jor-El over Batman. Although I'm not Batman's body could handle being on Krypton

Not to rain on your parade but Batman would die on krypton.

fine fine, I'll edit it so that he has a breather on .....

@ancient_0f_days: Still wouldn't be able to do anything. Krypton's gravity was described as vastly greater than Earth's.

That wasn't specified in the movie, Lois was just fine under Kryptons atmosphere in Zods ship

@ancient_0f_days: I thought someone mentioned that krypton had heavier gravity in MoS I just don't remember who said it.

@immortal777: Yes it was. It was stated literally right before Superman started trying to fly.

it wasn't mentioned from what I know of, and if anyone said it, it would be the Jor-El hologram/ghost .... but I have no recollection of it being mentioned in the film, just that the environment was harsh. The only reason i put the fight on Krypton was cus I couldn't find a good picture Zod's ship on google....

lol I was thinking about this in the movie theater too. I say Batman wins.

Jor-El wins he has better armour. And I was gonnamake this thread.

It was mentioned, it was one the factors they used in describing why Superman had powers on Earth

@allstarsuperman: HA,

LOLOLOLOLOL

Well, sh*t ... now I have to try and find a picture of Zod's space ship .... Was it Jor-El who said it? Was he dead when he said it or was it during the scene where they were preparing the escape pod ....

IIRC it was when Clark first met Jor-El's A.I

It was when he was speaking with Jor-El in the ship on Earth and was getting a history lesson and what not. I specifically remember him stating "their gravity is weaker" or something to that effect.

Jor-El mentioned that the environment was far harsher and that the gravity on Earth was far weaker than that of Earth's but the atmosphere was more nourishing, hence the strength of Clark's powers.

I'm gonna answer this like the OP meant for it to be, and Bruce has more feats.

Knew it was ghost Jor-El .... and fixed .... seen any good pics of Zods ship? nvr mind, Battle takes place in Zods ship, Kryptonian atmosphere enabled.

jor-el wins

@ancient_0f_days:

It was mentioned by Holographic Jor-El himself.

do you know how late you are....

@ancient_0f_days:

Do you know how one-sided this thread is?

based on this ...

..... you were saying?

To be fair...you had to be told multiple times that it was stated in the movie before you accepted it....maybe he was just making sure the information would stick.

@ancient_0f_days: Your pulling probably YouTube lvl arguments from people. And that's sad.

"Bruce has more feats" - so what

"I say Batman wins" - cool your opinion

Jor-El showed way better H2H combat against most of the elite Kryptonians and even had the upper hand against Zod. Only reason Zod killed Jor was a cheap shot with a dagger. Not to mention this was done on a much harsher environment on much heavier gravity.

Lois Lane was alright in Zod's ship because the gravity wasn't different and the Kryptonians had their Earth-given powers. Whether this is Krypton or Earth, it's spite either way.

DKR BATS

May change my opinion after I watch the movie (MOS).

Yeah, but that was an HOUR before he responded.....

You're the one who said this was a mismatch, not everyone here seems to agree. You can't be the only one who's right now can you, if you think you are, then that's sad.

When Superman was under kryptons atmosphere, he was and I quote..."as weak as a human" ...... same could be said of Jor-El since all the other Kryptonian's were the same way in that atmosphere ....

unless the fight takes place in Zods ship where even the Kryptonian's were "as weak as a human" ......... read the OP.

With that said I say DKR BATS, although he lost to a severely De-powered Supes, it is still impressive and Bruce is stronger than your average human.

Who lost to a depowered supes?

The first time superman gets on zod's ship should answer this question

#bleh

@ancient_0f_days:

Well, though he faked his own death, there is no chance that he will win against Supes in anyway and it is clear that Supes is holding back.

what are you talking about.....

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@ancient_0f_days:

We are talking about this Batman right?

Ooohhhhh! DKR as in Dark Knight Rises, I thought Dark Knight Returns. LOLZ

I only read the Rules.

@overlordarhas: oh jesus man. I can see where that'd confusing, as Dark Knight Returns was also a movie.

*facepalm*

Dark Knight Rises Batman was a complete and utter pansy.

So we're saying the same thing

Hey, when you mention Armor against Kryptonian, Batman, and DKR. The Dark Knight Returns was the fist thing that pops into my mind, and yes, it was a 2 part animated movie.

@overlordarhas: Ok, now I know exactly where you are coming from. *whew*, man ..... look at the pics next time..... I even have the bios linked to their names, they're there for a direct reason, *sigh*.......

Sorry for the confusion, now I really need to watch the movie first. I saw DK Rises but I need to watch MOS first to arrive at an objective opinion.

Good pictures of Zod's ship? What do you mean?

@ancient_0f_days: Still doesn't help that the suit your giving batman can be easily broken and once it is, fights over.

DKR batman was slow and he fought goons from the streets. Here, he's fighting someone on Bane's lvl without the respirator. Last time I checked, Batman almost got punked twice by Bane.

Jor-El Curbestomps

@deranged_midget: i changed the location to Zods ship, so I wanted to get a good pic of the inside of it.....

@ancient_0f_days: Ah ok, my bad! This is the general area of the ship, everything else is mostly corridors.

@deranged_midget: I still don't see Nolan's Batman winning

@cybrilious4: Against Jor-El? I mean, that's extremely hard to determine for me. Bale's Batman had three films of feats to back up on while Crowe's Jor-El had a minute of combat... Not really a fair distinguishing factor.

You could argue that Zod is one of Krypton's greatest warriors as he was genetically raised to be a warrior and Jor-El still trumped him, but it seemed almost even for the most part. Jor-El did kick some arse though!

@deranged_midget: This is how I see it, there are three chances in this world. Batman had his three chances to prove he can beat people a little bit better than him. He failed, he only fought goons and got lucky against Bane. In this fight, Jor-El has no respirator since the environment favors him to be on human Lvls and Batman's with the respirator. Like you said, Jor-El had the upper hand against the other Kryptonians who I argue could stomp Bane even on normal Lvls.

In order for this fight to be at best fair is if this is strictly H2H combat, which Batman will loose.

If Batman has his gear, then Jor-El gets Kryptonian weapons, and that's still a big stomp like the last one.

Like I said to Ancient_Of_Days, either way Jor-El stomps this Batman.

@cybrilious4: Eh, I can't say that there's enough information to state that the Kryptonains without aid of the Yellow sun would be equal to or superior than Bane or the best of the best in the Nolanverse. The only time we've seen true hand to hand was with Jor-El and Zod and that lasted for little less than a minute, but it was spectacular.

With the Kryptonian armour though, I'd say it's relatively similar to or slightly superior to Bruce's suit.

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