#1 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

#2 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

i lovegrifter but batmans got more arsenal

#3 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Grifter wins this pretty easily.

#4 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Grifter wins this pretty easily."

hmm not sure about that.

I think it would be a even fight

#5 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

grifter

#6 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"Grifter wins this pretty easily."

hmm not sure about that.

I think it would be a even fight"

Not at all.

#7 Posted by Odyssey_Dawn (84674 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"Grifter wins this pretty easily."

Yup. Grifter has Telekineses as well as Telepathy.

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#8 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Hellstormer says:

"Grifter smacks the Dark Knight into the ground and makes him cry for Robin. "

Thats the same way i imagined it..

#9 Posted by Hellstormer (284 posts) - - Show Bio

Grifter smacks the Dark Knight into the ground and makes him cry for Robin.

#10 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

Grifter's telepathy (as used recently) isn't something I think would be effective on Batman. Aside from the willpower thing his telepathy takes some time. Not long, but it's not so quick that Batman won't feel Grifter's influence and be able to throw something out to break his concentration. Grifter's TK is minimal. Biggest things he's controlled were his guns. He doesn't need to be able to life elephants or anything, just pointing out what level of TK he has.

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#11 Posted by Odyssey_Dawn (84674 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Grifter's telepathy (as used recently) isn't something I think would be effective on Batman. Aside from the willpower thing his telepathy takes some time. Not long, but it's not so quick that Batman won't feel Grifter's influence and be able to throw something out to break his concentration. Grifter's TK is minimal. Biggest things he's controlled were his guns. He doesn't need to be able to life elephants or anything, just pointing out what level of TK he has."

What do you mean when you say he used his TK to control his guns? Like they levitated or something? I guess the reason I ask is, could he use it to stop a bat-a-rang in mid flight?

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#12 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"What do you mean when you say he used his TK to control his guns? Like they levitated or something? I guess the reason I ask is, could he use it to stop a bat-a-rang in mid flight?"

He can levitate and fire them. Don't know what his limits are. He could definitely stop batarangs though. The question would become, how many can he stop at once? Could he contain a small explosion? Could he hold off knock out gas? Could he squeeze Batman's brain? Things like that. I think he wins, but without a definite answer on those questions I wouldn't call it a curbstomp or anything.

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#13 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio

Well does Batman have Prep Time ? This would be a real factor in this fight. Cause if he dont Grifter would win

#14 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

He would win any way...

Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already...

#15 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"He would win any way... Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already..."

What do you mean ? For some battles Prep Time is essential and can change the outcome of fights.

#16 Posted by Odyssey_Dawn (84674 posts) - - Show Bio

Akira Overdrive says:

"He would win any way...Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already..."

I was just about to say that. I like Batman and yes, with prep time he's methodical. But it doesn't mean he automatically wins, even if he does have prep. Its not like the guys he's fighting are morons. Give them prep and there odds for victory spike as well.

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#17 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"He would win any way... Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already..."

What do you mean ? For some battles Prep Time is essential and can change the outcome of fights. "

hmm maybe

anyway so I can go to the re-cap thread and put Grifter as the winner right?

#18 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Akira Overdrive says:
"He would win any way... Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already..."
I was just about to say that. I like Batman and yes, with prep time he's methodical. But it doesn't mean he automatically wins, even if he does have prep. Its not like the guys he's fighting are morons. Give them prep and there odds for victory spike as well."

Who says Batman automatically wins with prep time ? I was just asking did Batman have prep time. And it would be a factor still.

#19 Posted by Odyssey_Dawn (84674 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn says:

"Gambler says:
"Akira Overdrive says:
"He would win any way... Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already..."
I was just about to say that. I like Batman and yes, with prep time he's methodical. But it doesn't mean he automatically wins, even if he does have prep. Its not like the guys he's fighting are morons. Give them prep and there odds for victory spike as well."

Who says Batman automatically wins with prep time ? I was just asking did Batman have prep time. And it would be a factor still. "

Of course it would be a factor, but why not ask if Grifter has prep time? Would that not be a factor?

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#20 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"King Saturn says:
"Gambler says:
"Akira Overdrive says:
"He would win any way... Prep time is getting on my damn nerves already..."
I was just about to say that. I like Batman and yes, with prep time he's methodical. But it doesn't mean he automatically wins, even if he does have prep. Its not like the guys he's fighting are morons. Give them prep and there odds for victory spike as well."
Who says Batman automatically wins with prep time ? I was just asking did Batman have prep time. And it would be a factor still. "
Of course it would be a factor, but why not ask if Grifter has prep time? Would that not be a factor? "

Because I know that Grifter would win regardless if he had prep time or not. I know that he could beat Batman if he had prep time as well but it would be a better fight to me if Batman had some prep time.

#21 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont either I just think the fight would be better if Bats did have prep time.
Post Edited:2008-01-27 02:09:08

#22 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think Batman would win,period.

Prep-time or not.

#23 Posted by Alpha (7328 posts) - - Show Bio

Grifter could match Batman's hand to hand due to his Coda training in my opinion. But the gun thing isn' anything new to Bats and he is a smarter fighter.

Batman wins. But not easily.

#24 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

grifter got my vote

#25 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10075 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Grifter could match Batman's hand to hand due to his Coda training in my opinion. But the gun thing isn' anything new to Bats and he is a smarter fighter.Batman wins. But not easily."

Hell no,Grifter is better then Batman in hand to hand fighting.

Grifter has TK,nuff said.

#26 Posted by darktiger (4404 posts) - - Show Bio

@Akira Overdrive said:

Alpha says:

"Grifter could match Batman's hand to hand due to his Coda training in my opinion. But the gun thing isn' anything new to Bats and he is a smarter fighter.Batman wins. But not easily."

Hell no,Grifter is better then Batman in hand to hand fighting.

Grifter has TK,nuff said.

yup I totally agree

#27 Posted by NightThrasher (77 posts) - - Show Bio

If Bats gets prep time he has a chance. Otherwise Grifter wins with easy-moderate difficulty.

#28 Posted by darktiger (4404 posts) - - Show Bio

@NightThrasher said:

If Bats gets prep time he has a chance. Otherwise Grifter wins with easy-moderate difficulty.

even with prep grifter has this what can bats do to him

#29 Posted by NightThrasher (77 posts) - - Show Bio

Bats is a god of prep. Also, i said he would have a chance not that he would win. Even with prep i see Grafter being able to win. I was just saying it would be more interesting with prep.

#30 Posted by darktiger (4404 posts) - - Show Bio

@NightThrasher said:

Bats is a god of prep. Also, i said he would have a chance not that he would win. Even with prep i see Grafter being able to win. I was just saying it would be more interesting with prep.

yeah it would

#31 Posted by protectyournose (908 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman Stomps

#32 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@protectyournose said:

Batman Stomps

How do you figure? Even pre-52, Grifter had TK and TP. He's very adept at mind control, trained by the best fighters it Wildstorm at h2h, and a top-tier marksman. How would Batman beat him?

#33 Posted by darktiger (4404 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire said:

@protectyournose said:

Batman Stomps

How do you figure? Even pre-52, Grifter had TK and TP. He's very adept at mind control, trained by the best fighters it Wildstorm at h2h, and a top-tier marksman. How would Batman beat him?

no way he could beat grifter I am going to agree with this statement

#34 Posted by termiteone4ever (7132 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman got this

#35 Posted by comic_book_fan (5539 posts) - - Show Bio

I like cole but batman wins.

#36 Posted by Vega8282 (142 posts) - - Show Bio