Batman Vs Goku no super powers

This fight takes place in a forest   
 
this just pure skill no powers well goku cant use no powers just fighting skill as for batman goes the same 
 
batman doesnt get no prep and this fight catches them on by suprise

Not sure about this one. If it was Batgirl or Shiva I'd say them but...

Same here they are both very experienced  
 
Batman is masters and knows over 100+ fighting styles 
 
Goku has been in training since he was a kid with the best martial arts teachers 
 
and don't forget he trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and 1 day in there is a while in the real world so he might have more experience then Bats

"Batman has his greatest asset as an advantage here (his mind) he would beat Goku badly. Batman brain is like his superpower. "

Gonna have to go with Goku on this but just Barely.

Goku, but just barely, Goku is a fighting machine, Batman is a great fighter..

"Same here they are both very experienced   Batman is masters and knows over 100+ fighting styles  Goku has been in training since he was a kid with the best martial arts teachers  and don't forget he trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and 1 day in there is a while in the real world so he might have more experience then Bats "

" @Proxes said:

"Same here they are both very experienced   Batman is masters and knows over 100+ fighting styles  Goku has been in training since he was a kid with the best martial arts teachers  and don't forget he trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and 1 day in there is a while in the real world so he might have more experience then Bats "

@Proxes: one day in the chamber is one year in the outside world and you can only tarin in thare for 48hrs in your whole life after that the exit disaperises and you would be stuck in therer for ever unless you can go supersayen 3 and screm your way out wich goko could but he wouldent risk it. "

Isn't Goku an alien? How exactly do you measure his power when that is actually his natural ability?

Well  
 
Goku would know how to and not use his super strength if you say  
 
Every thing with such super powers  knows how to control them on use them when they like and when not to like a on and off switch 

Yep, Goku doesnt really have powers, it is all his ability from training in martial arts.  Batman doesnt even have a chance against kid Goku let alone a teenage or adult one. 

No  
 
Actually goku does know what do without them 
 
For example in the world tournaments he participates in he doesn't use powers he uses fighting skill  
 
when he fights enemy's he always doesn't use his powers at first its usually hand to hand combat 

" Yep, Goku doesnt really have powers, it is all his ability from training in martial arts.  Batman doesnt even have a chance against kid Goku let alone a teenage or adult one.  "

" Not sure about this one. If it was Batgirl or Shiva I'd say them but... "

I always considered goku equal to batman in fighting skills

I really don't know here they might be similar  
 
but one slip up  
 
this fight can go either way i think 

" Goku wins this in a very close fight. "

" @Proxes: The main martial arts ability goku is trained in is shaolin kung fu. Goku was basically in dragonball no stronger than humans. It is his ability in shaolin kung fu that boosted his durability etc... Goku has been trained by aliens and gods, he was also the best fighter in the universe, and in draonball was able to mimic and improvise well against unknown techniques. Goku has shown the ability to adapt his fighting style no matter who he is fighting. In dbz, the speed became to ridiculous and so it was harder to notice the skill, but in dragonball goku was a real master, inventing his own techniques, goku made up several of his own styles of kung fu. He was also taught many styles by master Roshi.  It is true that Batman knows many styles of fighting, and even more than goku, but goku is a true master in all his styles as, he was not just taught them, but he improved them and adapted them, and that is what I think makes the difference. Quality vs quantity. "

@thegreat  
 
correct goku isnt dumb when it comes down to martial arts and right off the bat  to sense batmans strength  
 
hmm i will look into it more  
 
his main style well its a mix of a bunch of different ones ill look into this more 

Martial Arts Master: Batman is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known. He trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years. He has mastered 127 styles of martial arts including Muay Thai,Escrima, Krav Maga, Capoeira, Savate, Yawyan, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, Kendo, fencing, swordsmanship, Kenjutsu, Kali, Bojutsu, Francombat, Boxing, Kickboxing, Hapkido, Wing Chun, Parkour, Shorin Ryu, Silat, Chin Na, Kyudo, Aikido, Varma Ati, Jeet Kune Do, Shaolin, Ba Gua, Hung Gar, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, and Kenpo. His primary form of combat is an idiosyncratic admixture of Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Karate, Boxing,Jujitsu, and Ninjitsu.

• Weapons Master: Through his martial arts training, he has become an expert on virtually all types of weaponry. He is an exceptional swordsman as evident in his fight with Ra's al Ghul, his proficiency in jui jitsu can proclaim his swordsmanship skill. Proficient at knife throwing, Escrima, & melee weapons mastery, having mastered Kobudo. Was trained and became proficient with all small arms. He soon learned expanded melee weapon techniques and he has learned expanded weapon/device sciences. He still practices during his combat sessions to keep his skills intact, though he prefers unarmed combat.

• Master of Stealth: His Ninjitsu training has made him a master at stealth capable of breaching high security facilities with ease and without being detected.

• Expert Marksman: Due to his training in Ninjitsu, Batman almost never misses his targets, 9/10 times he's succesful. He has been practicing accuracy since the early days of his training and is almost on par with the Green Arrow in terms of accuracy.

"

Martial Arts Master: Batman is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known. He trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years. He has mastered 127 styles of martial arts including Muay Thai,Escrima, Krav Maga, Capoeira, Savate, Yawyan, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, Kendo, fencing, swordsmanship, Kenjutsu, Kali, Bojutsu, Francombat, Boxing, Kickboxing, Hapkido, Wing Chun, Parkour, Shorin Ryu, Silat, Chin Na, Kyudo, Aikido, Varma Ati, Jeet Kune Do, Shaolin, Ba Gua, Hung Gar, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, and Kenpo. His primary form of combat is an idiosyncratic admixture of Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Karate, Boxing,Jujitsu, and Ninjitsu.

• Weapons Master: Through his martial arts training, he has become an expert on virtually all types of weaponry. He is an exceptional swordsman as evident in his fight with Ra's al Ghul, his proficiency in jui jitsu can proclaim his swordsmanship skill. Proficient at knife throwing, Escrima, & melee weapons mastery, having mastered Kobudo. Was trained and became proficient with all small arms. He soon learned expanded melee weapon techniques and he has learned expanded weapon/device sciences. He still practices during his combat sessions to keep his skills intact, though he prefers unarmed combat.

• Master of Stealth: His Ninjitsu training has made him a master at stealth capable of breaching high security facilities with ease and without being detected.

• Expert Marksman: Due to his training in Ninjitsu, Batman almost never misses his targets, 9/10 times he's succesful. He has been practicing accuracy since the early days of his training and is almost on par with the Green Arrow in terms of accuracy.

"

" @thegreat said:

" @Proxes: The main martial arts ability goku is trained in is shaolin kung fu. Goku was basically in dragonball no stronger than humans. It is his ability in shaolin kung fu that boosted his durability etc... Goku has been trained by aliens and gods, he was also the best fighter in the universe, and in draonball was able to mimic and improvise well against unknown techniques. Goku has shown the ability to adapt his fighting style no matter who he is fighting. In dbz, the speed became to ridiculous and so it was harder to notice the skill, but in dragonball goku was a real master, inventing his own techniques, goku made up several of his own styles of kung fu. He was also taught many styles by master Roshi.  It is true that Batman knows many styles of fighting, and even more than goku, but goku is a true master in all his styles as, he was not just taught them, but he improved them and adapted them, and that is what I think makes the difference. Quality vs quantity. "

very true in what you say   i like your response   but i still think it can go either way   batman has been in training since he was about 11 years he started with mental training then psyhical around 14 and   He is mastered in over 100+ fighting styles   also lets not forget batman is at the physical peak of basically everything of a human and goku well we dont know what his peek is since he uses his sayian strength  could it be around batman or the same  who knows   but i think it can go either way   who ever slips up first  and also goku never really comes on strong he usually toys with his opponents first   and after he finds out if they are worth the fight he usually goes up to their strength  which can be goku's mistake "

" @Proxes said:

" @thegreat said:

" @Proxes: The main martial arts ability goku is trained in is shaolin kung fu. Goku was basically in dragonball no stronger than humans. It is his ability in shaolin kung fu that boosted his durability etc... Goku has been trained by aliens and gods, he was also the best fighter in the universe, and in draonball was able to mimic and improvise well against unknown techniques. Goku has shown the ability to adapt his fighting style no matter who he is fighting. In dbz, the speed became to ridiculous and so it was harder to notice the skill, but in dragonball goku was a real master, inventing his own techniques, goku made up several of his own styles of kung fu. He was also taught many styles by master Roshi.  It is true that Batman knows many styles of fighting, and even more than goku, but goku is a true master in all his styles as, he was not just taught them, but he improved them and adapted them, and that is what I think makes the difference. Quality vs quantity. "

very true in what you say   i like your response   but i still think it can go either way   batman has been in training since he was about 11 years he started with mental training then psyhical around 14 and   He is mastered in over 100+ fighting styles   also lets not forget batman is at the physical peak of basically everything of a human and goku well we dont know what his peek is since he uses his sayian strength  could it be around batman or the same  who knows   but i think it can go either way   who ever slips up first  and also goku never really comes on strong he usually toys with his opponents first   and after he finds out if they are worth the fight he usually goes up to their strength  which can be goku's mistake "

barely stronger than a human? in dragonball he could move 2 ton rocks and easily lift a car over his head. "

" @Proxes said:

"

Martial Arts Master: Batman is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known. He trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years. He has mastered 127 styles of martial arts including Muay Thai,Escrima, Krav Maga, Capoeira, Savate, Yawyan, Taekwondo, Judo, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, Kendo, fencing, swordsmanship, Kenjutsu, Kali, Bojutsu, Francombat, Boxing, Kickboxing, Hapkido, Wing Chun, Parkour, Shorin Ryu, Silat, Chin Na, Kyudo, Aikido, Varma Ati, Jeet Kune Do, Shaolin, Ba Gua, Hung Gar, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, and Kenpo. His primary form of combat is an idiosyncratic admixture of Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Karate, Boxing,Jujitsu, and Ninjitsu.

• Weapons Master: Through his martial arts training, he has become an expert on virtually all types of weaponry. He is an exceptional swordsman as evident in his fight with Ra's al Ghul, his proficiency in jui jitsu can proclaim his swordsmanship skill. Proficient at knife throwing, Escrima, & melee weapons mastery, having mastered Kobudo. Was trained and became proficient with all small arms. He soon learned expanded melee weapon techniques and he has learned expanded weapon/device sciences. He still practices during his combat sessions to keep his skills intact, though he prefers unarmed combat.

• Master of Stealth: His Ninjitsu training has made him a master at stealth capable of breaching high security facilities with ease and without being detected.

• Expert Marksman: Due to his training in Ninjitsu, Batman almost never misses his targets, 9/10 times he's succesful. He has been practicing accuracy since the early days of his training and is almost on par with the Green Arrow in terms of accuracy.

"

That is alot of styles, but there are also some irrelevant ones such as fencing, swordsmanship, Parkour.  Lol it says Batman mastered Tai chi and Shaolin, yet he is nowhere near master roshi level. Calls to question what they call a master. Wing Chun is impressive, he definetly has skill. It is just that I always thought of Batman as: "Jack of all trades, master of none", he does not seem to ever add to the styles he learns, the one thing I commend him on, is mixing up his fighting styles, that would pose a threat nuff said. "

" @kagetaicho said:

" @Proxes said:

" @thegreat said:

" @Proxes: The main martial arts ability goku is trained in is shaolin kung fu. Goku was basically in dragonball no stronger than humans. It is his ability in shaolin kung fu that boosted his durability etc... Goku has been trained by aliens and gods, he was also the best fighter in the universe, and in draonball was able to mimic and improvise well against unknown techniques. Goku has shown the ability to adapt his fighting style no matter who he is fighting. In dbz, the speed became to ridiculous and so it was harder to notice the skill, but in dragonball goku was a real master, inventing his own techniques, goku made up several of his own styles of kung fu. He was also taught many styles by master Roshi.  It is true that Batman knows many styles of fighting, and even more than goku, but goku is a true master in all his styles as, he was not just taught them, but he improved them and adapted them, and that is what I think makes the difference. Quality vs quantity. "

very true in what you say   i like your response   but i still think it can go either way   batman has been in training since he was about 11 years he started with mental training then psyhical around 14 and   He is mastered in over 100+ fighting styles   also lets not forget batman is at the physical peak of basically everything of a human and goku well we dont know what his peek is since he uses his sayian strength  could it be around batman or the same  who knows   but i think it can go either way   who ever slips up first  and also goku never really comes on strong he usually toys with his opponents first   and after he finds out if they are worth the fight he usually goes up to their strength  which can be goku's mistake "

barely stronger than a human? in dragonball he could move 2 ton rocks and easily lift a car over his head. "

you dont get what im saying   he usually uses his sayian strength we dont know how strong he is without it if he doesnt use his sayian strength   "

Yea i know 
 
so i guess this fight isnt possible with no powers since well he  is sayian and its his blood 
 
but i think now if batman had prep he mite be able to take the win 

"Yea i know  so i guess this fight isnt possible with no powers since well he  is sayian and its his blood  but i think now if batman had prep he mite be able to take the win  "

Yea if goku gets prep no chance 
 
lets say bats has been preying on him and studiying  goku for some time 

goku knos alien and other worldly martial arts i say goku

" goku knos alien and other worldly martial arts i say goku "

flip a coin

"flip a coin "

goku

"goku "

"Not sure about this one. If it was Batgirl or Shiva I'd say them but... "

Goku is an idiot savant. His ability to comprehend, analyze and break every single form to a level where he could do it instantly, and improve the form by a dozen factor, makes him by far above any martial artists in DC or Marvel.

"Goku is an idiot savant. His ability to comprehend, analyze and break every single form to a level where he could do it instantly, and improve the form by a dozen factor, makes him by far above any martial artists in DC or Marvel. "

......
 
Do you know what savant means?

"......  Do you know what savant means? "