I made a batman vs US army thread and nearly everyone said he would win with a years prep so I thought I would up the game a little and give him the whole of the USA (including the army). He gets 2 years prep this time.
Batman vs Everyone in America
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Still Bruce
America. Fact is we don't know what the capabilities are for everyone in America. Bruce is good but not good enough to defeat 200 million people working in unison.
@ironshinobi88: Over 313 million actually.
@fatherchaos: HahahaHhH no. That things battery life is bad.
@ironshinobi88: Hmm, true.
@allstarsuperman: That would kill too many americans and knowing the government they would not do that. Plus, batman could hack the nuke so it doesn't work.
Batman is America.
Still Bruce
Is everybody here on drugs? Batman vs 313 million people, some of which have access to, say, guided missile systems. It won't be long before there's no more batcave. Then he's out of his cave, no resources, with everybody knowing who he is because of modern facial recognition programs, which are smarter then you'd think. At this point, he's got thousands of people coming at him at once, as well as millitary and drones tracking him and blowing him up if he gets away from civilization.
And that's just assuming it's our earth. If not, and it's DC earth, it's so much worse.
1) they have no idea of the location of the batcave
2) Batman has dodged guided missiles before (in the Dark Knight Rises Bane captured a tumbler and batman used the bat to dodge the missiles
3) he has a whole years prep...
Batman is America.
Is this a mod? If it isn't, someone needs to make it.
@stormdriven: Yeah for Arkham Asylum.
@dagmar_merrill: That's legit. It's really well done.
1) they have no idea of the location of the batcave
2) Batman has dodged guided missiles before (in the Dark Knight Rises Bane captured a tumbler and batman used the bat to dodge the missiles
3) he has a whole years prep...
- And you think they won't find out? Drones, spies, and many spy satellites for the win. All they have to do is track him.
- That is the movie Batman. He is different and looses even harder. Also, there is no way that any human would dodge missiles.
- That he's going to do what with? He has 313 million opponents. If he starts shooting off bombs, that just makes it easier to track him and more likely to get bombed.
I go with America. Bruce is gonna lose to that one random person who just so happens to accidentally across him somehow
@web_flotsam: 1) he hacks the satellites plus drones so they cannot track him. Or he uses his stealth suit.
2) His stealth suit would prevent the missiles from locking on to him
3) sorry my bad. Its actually 2years prep (I was thinking of the batman vs us army thread)
anyways he still stomps...
This must be a joke, stop this nonsense, in no way whatsoever is batman beating the whole of america. Ever. I love batman and believe he can take ppl much more powerful than him with everything at his disposal. But certainly not 315,000,000 people. Thats absurd.
Well are morals off? Because two years prep and there's nukes with Bat emblems all over the country. If their on. Knockout gas and fear toxins. He'd lose in the end with morals on due to sheer numbers, but it doesn't take an army to take down a huge portion of a population, just one man with a plan
Well are morals off? Because two years prep and there's nukes with Bat emblems all over the country. If their on. Knockout gas and fear toxins. He'd lose in the end with morals on due to sheer numbers, but it doesn't take an army to take down a huge portion of a population, just one man with a plan
basically this right here. batman could be the worst terrorist the world has ever seen if he was morals off.
@darthmanhunter: He can use a ncke and evryone will be distoyed
@petey_is_spidey: NO he hide in batcav and kills all people with satalites and nukes. He is good hacker
@linsanel_doctor: Yer batman is 1 of the most underestimatid caracters
Look at what a few terrorists can do to America, all it takes is one person to catch America off guard and disrupt many things we take for granted. Now look at the tech in the DCU--there is tech that could cause planet wide devastation. Look at Batman's hacking skills or the tech he has access to or what he could build in a 1-2 year.
Anyways, there are way too many variables when you have ~313 million people. Which will lead me to my next post.
Still Bruce
Here is some helpful reading and welcome to The Vine, btw:
No More Universe Vs Universe or Character X vs Universe Threads
These types of threads are be banned. Universe vs Universe threads involve too many people or a person vs a universe could end up becoming a stomp and offer no debates at all. Like Superman Prime vs Marvel Universe. He would end up fighting some being that he wouldn't beat and if you do the universe vs universe threads it just ends up being omnipotent vs omnipotent which is also against the rules and offers no debate. This is an extension of the be careful with team battles but this is gonna be cracked down on more.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/battle-forum-rules-2-0-compulsory-reading-1505000/#0
I would suggest you look at the material in the above link. I have made bad battle threads before that I could have avoided if I had read the rules.
With that being said, I will let the mods be the judge of this thread.
@petey_is_spidey: NO he hide in batcav and kills all people with satalites and nukes. He is good hacker
Yeah, and he's going to hack every missile at a time by himself. The US and CIA would have so many people on the job, so many firewalls set up, and so many personnel, he's going to be overwhelmed. The US tracks the location of the signal of the hacker and take him out. Plus do you not realize how difficult, even for Batman, it would be to hack AND launch every missile at once? No matter how smart you are, it's not happening.
The fact is that the REAL US government is not as dumb as portrayed in the comics. The second he hacks them, they'll pinpoint were he is the second he hacks them, send in a Seal team or just nuke his Batcave. If he even thinks about nuking everyone, he's a dumbass 'cause he'd nuke himself in the process. He's not fighting ove 313.9 million people.
@petey_is_spidey: NO he hide in batcav and kills all people with satalites and nukes. He is good hacker
Yeah, and he's going to hack every missile at a time by himself. The US and CIA would have so many people on the job, so many firewalls set up, and so many personnel, he's going to be overwhelmed. The US tracks the location of the signal of the hacker and take him out. Plus do you not realize how difficult, even for Batman, it would be to hack AND launch every missile at once? No matter how smart you are, it's not happening.
The fact is that the REAL US government is not as dumb as portrayed in the comics. The second he hacks them, they'll pinpoint were he is the second he hacks them, send in a Seal team or just nuke his Batcave. If he even thinks about nuking everyone, he's a dumbass 'cause he'd nuke himself in the process. He's not fighting ove 313.9 million people.
They aren't as dumb as shown in comics but only in a sense. The problem is that DC and Marvel are both decades if not centuries in front of Modern Day technology. And Batman is in a pretty high tier (not the highest, there are still people like Red, Doom, Steel, Pym, ect. ect. that could blow him out of the water) even in those universes. He's created things Like Brother 1 that hacked databases all around the world including a U.S. Government that is more advanced than ours. If we are talking about D.C. america vs Batman then I'd say yea someone will catch on and stop him but vs. our Tech? He might as well be a man from 1000 years in the future with all the tech and sophistication of the best of the best from that time. The biggest problem for Batman in these Scenarios vs modern day anything is his Morals. I'd love to say this is just Batwank but sadly this does fall within the realm of what he has produced in comics. Could batman run around and slap each and every american with a cool suit and gadgets? Absolutely not. But could he use a grand overarching scheme using sophisticated tech, subversion, stealth and strategy to force a tactical surrender of our government? Probably as long as he was willing to enact it.
Edit: Especially if he was just showing his muscle to force a "Surrender" with no terms other than the U.S. saying "yea Batman wins, we give up."
America. Fact is we don't know what the capabilities are for everyone in America. Bruce is good but not good enough to defeat 200 million people working in unison.
Make that 313.9 million people working in unison.
@petey_is_spidey: how would he nuke himself?
He's got 2 years prep, that's two years to decide whether or not to build his own nuke, launch his own satellite or poison a major food or water supply.....plus he's got his own company which has access too and the ability to create ems and other things....more then that it takes 10 minutes to schedule a flight out of the country the day before the fight starts and nuke from a Paris hotel. He won't get everyone but he'll cut the fighting force in half
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