#1 Posted by SSG335 (40 posts) - - Show Bio

Did they ever fight before?Was it Canon?If so Who Won?

#2 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio

they fought a couple times and DS mopped the floor with him

#3 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

#4 Posted by Red_Blade (2441 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats

#5 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@Red_Blade said:
" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol
#6 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper: There was another occasion where Slade nearly killed him again.    
#7 Posted by Red_Blade (2441 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @Red_Blade said:
" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol "
Yeah I heard about that
#8 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" @vuviper: There was another occasion where Slade nearly killed him again.     "
Oh, do you know when? maybe the issue or series...
#9 Posted by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper: 
 
 
    
 
    
 
   
#10 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

As stated, DS has whooped Batman in the past. 

#11 Posted by SSG335 (40 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol "
Well You all just some bunch of Nerds arent you? Since when did Batman have powers
#12 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@SSG335 said:
" @vuviper said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol "
Well You all just some bunch of Nerds arent you? Since when did Batman have powers "
Deathstroke didn't have powers...
#13 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder: 
He ends up beating him in that comic
 

#14 Posted by Donovan Montgomery (5416 posts) - - Show Bio
@SSG335:
Wha????  Who said Batman had powers? 

 
#15 Posted by Undergroundgod (2925 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade wins the battle, Bruce wins the war!
#16 Edited by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio
 @vuviper: Slade still could've finished him off whenever he wanted to, as Batman was left completely defenseless at least two times in that fight.
#17 Edited by Donovan Montgomery (5416 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper:
After, what?, the third time?  and with Deathstrokes own gun to boot :\ 
 ( I have the issue, just been awhile since I read it)
lol
#18 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2194 posts) - - Show Bio

Without PIS, Batman loses.  Deathstroke is stronger, faster, so on and so forth.

#19 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @Red_Blade said:
" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol "

Yeah but even then, he's only 1 for 2.
#20 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Red_Blade said:
" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol "
Yeah but even then, he's only 1 for 2. "
I think the best showing is still the one I posted earlier, good fight.
#21 Posted by Drache64 (331 posts) - - Show Bio

sorry if i'm ressurecting this but i thought it better than starting a new thread, Why doesnt batman use his gadgets? sure in hand to hand im pretty sure slade would mop up. but slade only seems to have very basic equipment. im sure batman could pull out a few surprises if he used his tech instead of his fists. I've seen noncannon equipment thats pretty amazing that batman used before, im sure he could actually use some of it weather it was non cannon or not, like the bullet reflector from gotham knight, imagin if he created something like that to work against physical attacks. im just saying that every instance i've looked up was fist vs fist. but slade has super powers and batman has super gadgets. anyone else wonder these things? C'mon guys why wouldnt batman use gadgets expecially if he has taken beatings from slade in the past.

#22 Posted by Dane (10591 posts) - - Show Bio
@Drache64:
Slade has very basic equipment? A suit of Prometheum Armor, A Prometheum Broadsword, his Prometheum Blasting Staff, an assortment of high-end military grade explosives and firearms, custom made counter measures for the entire Justice League and most other heroes.
 
Doesn't sound too basic to me.
#23 Posted by Drache64 (331 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dane: i guess i stand corrected then. i know nothing of any of this promethian equipment you speak of. i just havent ever seen slade use it then. note: im not a big follower of DS, but even so, bat has access to WAY better than high end military grade. like i said though, ive seen Bats use a force feild in noncannon work, like gotham knight, im wondering why he wouldnt be able to pull somthing like this out of his LIMITLESS arsenal. slade is the ultimate fighter, but bats is the ultimate inventor tactician, (note: i didnt say inventor/tactician, i said Inventor-tactician, which means he can invent things to coincide with his tactics) But i am admittenly a novice, and i would just like to know WHY what i propose isn't possible.
#24 Posted by SlovBoy (25 posts) - - Show Bio

Hi Guys!

I wanted to start a new thread but since this one is already ''open'' I'll just continue here...

I've started to delve into the ''martial arts'' world of the DCU and I'm reading comics that fit that term. No H2H fight has risen more ''controversy'' and forum posts than the Batman vs Deathstroke battle. I've read the one where they met for the first time (Deathstroke the Terminator #8 and #9) but I'm also looking for others and I was wondering if any of you could help me out :)

I gotta say the MA world of DC is pretty interesting to read, but it has it's fair share of discrepancies (but isn't that the case with every hero/villian showdown). I, for one, always assumed that because of Batman's obsession with stopping crime and his constant pursuit towards physical and mental perfection kinda made him, in my eyes, the perfect candidate for being the greatest martial artist in the DC Universe. In this DC Wiki entry it writes: Master Martial Artist: Wayne is well trained in multiple martial arts. His primary form of combat is an idiosyncratic admixture of Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Dragon Style Kung Fu, Boxing, Jujitsu, and Ninjitsu. Wayne is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known. I of course understand there are those who might be slightly better - Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, maybe even Cassandra Cain (but that's a maybe) but I would personally place Batman at the number 3 spot, sharing it with his equal - Bronze Tiger (that's what I got when I read the comic of their bout). I wouldn't place DS on that list because he's enhanced (a fact he gave away when they fought for the first time).

Don't think of me as a Batman fan, I'm just wondering what you guys think of this whole matter.

Thanks!

#25 Posted by Vezok123 (332 posts) - - Show Bio

batman... Cause hes fu#%ing batman!

#26 Posted by Billy Batson (57795 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay then.
BB

#27 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@vuviper said:

Deathstroke

#28 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlovBoy said:

Hi Guys!

I wanted to start a new thread but since this one is already ''open'' I'll just continue here...

I've started to delve into the ''martial arts'' world of the DCU and I'm reading comics that fit that term. No H2H fight has risen more ''controversy'' and forum posts than the Batman vs Deathstroke battle. I've read the one where they met for the first time (Deathstroke the Terminator #8 and #9) but I'm also looking for others and I was wondering if any of you could help me out :)

I gotta say the MA world of DC is pretty interesting to read, but it has it's fair share of discrepancies (but isn't that the case with every hero/villian showdown). I, for one, always assumed that because of Batman's obsession with stopping crime and his constant pursuit towards physical and mental perfection kinda made him, in my eyes, the perfect candidate for being the greatest martial artist in the DC Universe. In this DC Wiki entry it writes: Master Martial Artist: Wayne is well trained in multiple martial arts. His primary form of combat is an idiosyncratic admixture of Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Dragon Style Kung Fu, Boxing, Jujitsu, and Ninjitsu. Wayne is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known. I of course understand there are those who might be slightly better - Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, maybe even Cassandra Cain (but that's a maybe) but I would personally place Batman at the number 3 spot, sharing it with his equal - Bronze Tiger (that's what I got when I read the comic of their bout). I wouldn't place DS on that list because he's enhanced (a fact he gave away when they fought for the first time).

Don't think of me as a Batman fan, I'm just wondering what you guys think of this whole matter.

Thanks!

Here's my thoughts on most of the top MA in DC. http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/vuviper/top-melee-combatants/75-11561/ it's a little old though...

Notice that Deathstroke isn't actually on that list because his strength, speed, endurance, and cognition have all been enhanced.

#29 Posted by Kinasin_ (1141 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman thumped him twice. Once he sneaked up on him and knocked him out also. When they first fought slade even mentions something along the lines of not being able to believe how good of a fight batman gave him.

That said the inner fanboy in me screams Batman and in martial arts batman is probably superior. With prep batman would beat out deathstroke imo. In this match I'll give a 7 out of ten to deathstroke just because of the reality of him having powers and thumping him in the past although batman never rolled over. Batman could possibly pull off more than I said with pure ingenuity/Batgear being used to it's full potential.

#30 Posted by brainwave_200 (9 posts) - - Show Bio

most likely deathstroke cause he has superpowers, but batman has defeated some powerful people before. so you never really know for sure.

#31 Posted by nickthedevil (11634 posts) - - Show Bio

alrighty then

#32 Edited by darktiger (4226 posts) - - Show Bio

slade wins based on previous wins against batman

#33 Posted by xDJTunez (45 posts) - - Show Bio

Could Bats beat Slade with prep?

#34 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Currently Slade outclasses Batman physically and has a healing factor. Plus he has weapons that are fatal (swords, while Batman has grappling wire, batarangs etc)

#35 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6160 posts) - - Show Bio

DeathStroke can not be beaten not even by Batman

#36 Posted by jashro44 (19836 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel the need to mention since this thread was made before flashpoint we are using pre 52 deathstroke. And Slade wins because of past encounters and better physicals.

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#37 Posted by darktiger (4226 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

I feel the need to mention since this thread was made before flashpoint we are using pre 52 deathstroke. And Slade wins because of past encounters and better physicals.

agreed

#38 Posted by nickzambuto (13012 posts) - - Show Bio

@xDJTunez said:

Could Bats beat Slade with prep?

It depends. Slade is just as good a strategist as Batman, so if they both get prep, Deathstroke still wins.

However, if only Batman gets prep, then yes he'll probably win. And, knowing Batman, it probably will be just him getting prep.

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#39 Posted by Cable_Extreme (8685 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman doesn't go for the kill, Deathstroke is a assassin that is trained to kill. Slade uses 90% of his brain and is super strong,fast, and tough. Deathstroke admitted that he wouldn't want to fight batman without his enhancements. They are both super smart. Worlds best detective vs the worlds best assassin. Id give it to Deathstroke just becuase he has a higher win/loss ratio. Deathstroke has beaten batman several times not just once.
#40 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke

@nickzambuto said:

Slade is just as good a strategist as Batman, so if they both get prep, Deathstroke still wins.

If both Slade and Batman have an equal amount of preparation, Batman will win since he has the more better resources and he's more smarter in engineering and sciences.

@Cable_Extreme said:

Batman doesn't go for the kill, Deathstroke is a assassin that is trained to kill. Slade uses 90% of his brain and is super strong,fast, and tough. Deathstroke admitted that he wouldn't want to fight batman without his enhancements. They are both super smart. Worlds best detective vs the worlds best assassin. Id give it to Deathstroke just becuase he has a higher win/loss ratio. Deathstroke has beaten batman several times not just once.

I agree.

Vouile

#41 Posted by jay_z94 (347 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke would win a straight up battle, but batman would win the war. He's a paranoid genius, he could just drop the JLA watchtower on him, or nuke him.

#42 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4925 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade with ease.

#43 Edited by krauser99 (826 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has won two times IIRC. One Batman KO'ed Slade with the but of a rifle as Slade had his sword. The second Batman used a surprise attack and kicked Slade out via a suprise kick and tied him up. Other street level characters have done very well but Slade usually gets the advantage on them.

Even in there first fight where Slade won. Slade was hurt very bad afterwards.

#44 Posted by Pokeysteve (8096 posts) - - Show Bio

The times where Batman cheap shots and surprises Slade don't really count. He didn't technically beat him in a fight. Anyone can sneak up behind Tyson and crack him in the face.

#45 Posted by Dead_god (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman wins.

#46 Posted by joshmightbe (24692 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dead_god: You mean aside from all those times Slade made him look like a Bat-b**ch

#47 Posted by Dead_god (29 posts) - - Show Bio

@joshmightbe said:

@Dead_god: You mean aside from all those times Slade made him look like a Bat-b**ch

The op really doesnt give detail on the battle, its just asking if they've faught and if so who won. With enough prep, Batman might think of something, but Random encounter, Deathstroke would stomp.

#48 Posted by jay_z94 (347 posts) - - Show Bio

Hand to hand slade would win, but i wanted to get across that batman will do anything to beat him, even if that means sneak attack, fighting dirty with gadgets (gas, etc) or like i said earlier, just nuke him.

#49 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3693 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zoom said:

@vuviper said:

" @Red_Blade said:

" I think the only time that Batman won a fight against DS was in the IC, and DS lost on purpose plus Robin and Nightwing were with Bats "
He beat him when DS didn't have powers, lol "
Yeah but even then, he's only 1 for 2.

Poor Bats

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#50 Posted by jashro44 (19836 posts) - - Show Bio

Dirty tactics wont help considering Slade will flat out kill batman, Batman wont Nuke Slade since this would kill innocent lives. Sneak attack has proven successful but since there are no conditions in the op they begin visible.

Deathstroke wins.

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