@mtuske: He doesn't need to go chase her. She has no range attack that can work on Batman. On the contrary, Bruce can knock her out with KO Batarangs. So eventually she'll have to close in. Though I think Bruce is slightly more skilled, I agree that Widow is faster. But Bruce's durability is too much for Natasha. She won't even be able to faze him with her punches. I mean, a guy who took Bane's punches and kept going on, she won't be doing much to him. Bruce on the other hand needs just a few well placed punches to finish her.
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Considering the fact that the OP doesn't say movie versions.....Batman stomps
Baleman still beats MCU Widow. Comic versions, Batman stomps.
Batmans standard gear would be...lets say a gas powered hook, smoke and Batarangs right? everything else would be out of character. For BlackWidow standard gear would be Pistols, widows bites and poison darts.
Considering the fact that the OP doesn't say movie versions.....Batman stomps
Baleman still beats MCU Widow. Comic versions, Batman stomps.
No, she would taz the shat out of him. And strangle him with that line of hers.
@allstarsuperman: Taz won't work at all on Bruce. Rachel tried it. Natasha is going to learn it the hard way.
@allstarsuperman: Taz won't work at all on Bruce. Rachel tried it. Natasha is going to learn it the hard way.
She has a about a hundred taser discs and even a full body taser, thats way more powerful then the (Gay looking) taser Rachel used.
Batman should take this, but definitely not easily. His skills are superior to hers, but she can hold her own for a while. In terms of weaponry, Widow may have the advantage if she uses her widow's bite or pistols to keep the distance. If she goes straight for the hand-to-hand, she will down quicker.
Considering the fact that the OP doesn't say movie versions.....Batman stomps
Baleman still beats MCU Widow. Comic versions, Batman stomps.
No, she would taz the shat out of him. And strangle him with that line of hers.
His armor protected him from Rachel's taser in the Batman Begins.
@mtuske: Baleman > widow. He's stronger, dodged bullets, is tougher, and has better gear. Her only advantage is being acrobatic. Batman could just stealth take her down or, if morals were off, could shoot a sticky bomb at her face with his sticky bomb gun
Considering the fact that the OP doesn't say movie versions.....Batman stomps
Baleman still beats MCU Widow. Comic versions, Batman stomps.
No, she would taz the shat out of him. And strangle him with that line of hers.
His armor protected him from Rachel's taser in the Batman Begins.
Batman Begins armour is not equal to TDK/TDKR armour. Begins armour was actually more durable.
Batman Begins armour is not equal to TDK/TDKR armour. Begins armour was actually more durable.
More durable to bullets, tasers aren't bullets so I don't think anything pertaining to tasers will effect him
Batman Begins armour is not equal to TDK/TDKR armour. Begins armour was actually more durable.
More durable to bullets, tasers aren't bullets so I don't think anything pertaining to tasers will effect him
Knives aren't bullets, but it makes a difference. You can't just assume he is impervious to electricity.
Knives aren't bullets, but it makes a difference. You can't just assume he is impervious to electricity.
His armor's new and old have defended against knives, only time a knife got through it was when it was in between the padding. Also, Bruce took a direct bullet shot from Dent at point blank range and proceeded to tackle him 15 seconds later with no noticeable bleeding (meaning the armor worked). His armor is only slightly lighter and based on the previous armor, he should be impervious to being tased. Assuming otherwise is baseless.
Knives aren't bullets, but it makes a difference. You can't just assume he is impervious to electricity.
His armor is only slightly lighter and based on the previous armor, he should be impervious to being tased. Assuming otherwise is baseless.
By your logic this is possible:
Hit-Girl's suit is head to toe kevlar, and she can tank small handgun bullets. Sniper rifles and machine guns also use bullets therefore she can tank those as well.
Thats not how it works. But because Batmans suit protected him against a standard easy to buy taser, doesn't mean it can shrug off high tech shield tasers that are obviously more powerful. Again by your logic Batman could tank Thors lighting cause ya know he is impervious to a taser and they are both electricity.
@jayc1324: Or she could shoot him in the face. From on her back from at least 50ft down she put a bullet in WS eye. Baleman is not dodging someone with that accuracy. Baleman dies. Widow is faster, more agile, better fighter, wicked aim, more lethal gear and has no qualms with killing. Baleman last a little longer because of his suit but that's it. His extreme slowness will pose zero challenge to her.
@allstarsuperman: All tasers use electricity. His TDK suit was durable enough to tank a bullet. And we've seen that his suit is completely resistive to electricity. I don't know how this is debatable. A taser is not going through it. Only advantage Natasha has over Bruce is her agility. Bruce has shown better reflexes and strength as well as durability. Skill wise I'd put Bruce just slightly above Natasha because he takes down trained opponents more frequently. SWATs, cops, League of Assassin members.
@mtuske: he's not slow, he dodged bullets. Let's see any other regular guy do that. She might be faster but he's not as slow and you make him sound. She's also not a better fighter. Look at batman begins and his fights with Ras and the fake Raw and ninja training and the scene at the beginning when he fights the prisoners. Most of her fights are done with gadgets and guns. The only time she fought without them I can remember is taking down the boxing guy in iron man 2 and fighting winter soldier where she lost. Can't remember if she used then fighting hawkeye
Did BW hit WS eye quickly or with a lot of time to aim?
@jayc1324: man you crack me up.lol your fannboyizm is peaked. more than half the stuff you say is crap and you dont care. why? CUZ BATMAN ROCKS B#%&#!!
@jayc1324: Very quickly and he was 50ft away and at an elevated position about 50ft above her as well.
He didn't dodge bullets. They were firing at him and he was moving away from where he thought they were going to go. Every human does that naturally and every soldier who's seen combat and come home as done that as well. That doesn't mean they are bullet dodgers.
@mtuske: I think I remember that part now, he was on a highway or something like that and she hit his glasses. Fair enough.
But as for the dodging bullets, I was saying that he was actually fast enough to ddoge bullets, but I don't think soldiers are able to avoid being hit when they are in a tight space like the subway and being fire at with no cover to hide behind. He had to cover all that ground pretty quickly.
@mtuske: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRBmH3WxXRA
Watch it again. It looks like he's evading the aim of the gun, not just running for his life.
@rbt: Batman only has durability because of his suit. He's so as dirt I don't even think he could beat Hawkeye hand to hand. Pretty pathetic speed and just brings nothing to the table that Black Widow couldn't take d i wn in minutes. That's being generous. He's way to sliw to be a threat to anyone who doesn't move like a snail or throw mindless haymamkers
You're either a troll, hate batman with a passion for some reason or just really stupid
@captainbatman: There's a reson why I stopped replying to him :P
@69ball-z-deep: you people don't look at logic, it could be Batman vs Catwoman in h2h and if someone says batman wins you'll say they are fanboys like wtf
@captainbatman: Not a troll kid. Just realize Baleman is no Batman. I've made my case if it hurts your feelings oh well.
@rbt: he's the same on other batman forums too, everyone has to say batman loses and when we say batman wins were fanboys. and atleast @allstarsuperman makes a compelling argument while this guy just runs in circles by saying batman sucks even though he is peak human in literally every category
@captainbatman: Yeah. I've noticed that too. That's why I sstopped replying. No point in providing feats to back up my claim when other person is just going to ignore it.
Considering the fact that the OP doesn't say movie versions.....Batman stomps
Baleman still beats MCU Widow. Comic versions, Batman stomps.
No, she would taz the shat out of him. And strangle him with that line of hers.
I meant H2H, he wins handily in pure H2H. Also, tasers don't work and his gauntlets act as projectiles.
Comic versions: batman fairly easily
Movie versions: widow with some difficulty
@rbt: the thing about feats is....ther stupid. ther so circumstatial. and the PiS or circumstances surrounding said feat are always almost never mentioned. how long ago did the feat take place. is it still relevent now with current versions? Should feats trump logic? example. tho Batman is a human this one time he dodged a bullet at point blank range. Hes a bullet timer! At this point a fanboy would completly ignore the over 600,000 punches Batman has taken to the face in his 70 year career and say who ever he's fighting could never hit him cuz hes a "bullet timer". A fanboy will put that one PIS feat over all logic and suggest that Batman is to fast to lose any battles on comic vine. and to make it even more pathetic that fan will ignore the 2million times everyother hero has done the samething.( heroes dodgeing bullets at any range is common as hell in comics and cartoon so its not a big deal) so i do logic snd stats only.
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