Batman vs Black Widow

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Animated versions.

Batman from Son of Batman/Batman vs Robin:

vs Black Widow from Avengers Confidential:

(Some clips, just in case you guys are unfamiliar with them)

Random encounter.

Win by KO.

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You'really gonna hate me for this, but i'd say batman. They'really both combat experts, but the bat has better stealth, gadgets, armor, and senses (via said armor). He wins due to better equipment imo.

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You'really gonna hate me for this, but i'd say batman. They'really both combat experts, but the bat has better stealth, gadgets, armor, and senses (via said armor). He wins due to better equipment imo.

Alright, I'd say Natasha's superior durability could be a problem, but due to me being the creator of the thread, I can't really debate this, so I'll just watch from the sidelines.

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#4  Edited By Don_Sevour

@rudebomberboy01: Explain her superior durability. From what i've seen, she's human, but i'm more of an analyst than a fan, so feel free to inform me. Also, the bat overcomes durability with weakness exploitation... at least, that's the usual i've seen

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Both movie characters are basically featless, but I give it to Black Widow for tangoing with the Punisher.

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@don_sevour:

A random human cannot replicate what she was doing in that movie :D

She was tanking punches from Elihas, and at one point was able to match him blow for blow. I'd say that's a better durability feat than basically everything we've seen Bruce tank in his Batsuit.

@jkfallen said:

Both movie characters are basically featless, but I give it to Black Widow for tangoing with the Punisher.

Batman is not featless.

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@rudebomberboy01: yep, and i've seen batman punch people through walls and survive falls from ridiculous height (i'm not posting scans, so If you don't wanna believe me, that's fine). Movies have to be flashy like that. I just don't wanna factor in durability until it's an official power of hers, ya know.

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@spider-manwins: not ignoring, just noting that that's not a staple of her abilities. You have to admit that they'be both had superhuman feats, but neither is superhuman consistantly. If that was an official power of hers, i'd make note it.

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#10  Edited By RudeBomberBoy01

@don_sevour:

Sure he survived the fall, but he was badly injured. Widow on the other hand had no trouble tanking the punches. When did Batman punch people through walls? I can't remember that o_O ... refresh my memory please..

Durabily isn't an official power, it's just something we guage based off what the characters have shown, and based on what these two chatracters have shown in their own respective movies(which have nothing to do with their comic counterparts), BW has the better durability feats, and possibly speed/reflexes and agility too. Batman has her in gadget and skill (although not by much).

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#11  Edited By Don_Sevour

@rudebomberboy01: what is elihas' strength range? Oh,and watch red hood and... that one movie where an old batman beats up superman and dies (whatever that was called). He knocked a few people through a few walls.

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@rudebomberboy01: what is elihas' strength range?

Tossing Widow around like a ragdoll. Check out 6:50 onwards in the last video posted, should give you an idea.

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i'm going with widow only because they really nerfed Batman in that movie

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@rudebomberboy01: cool, but honestly, until she's immune to poison, electricity, or has no pressure/weak points, I say he takes it. He doesn't have to kill her to win, and I doubt he'd be trying to anyways. As long as her body's still human chemically, he'll subdue her, even without brute force. May I ask what equipment she has aside from guns/energy weapons that can have a special debilitating effect on him. (Aside from gas, he's got countermeasure for that). I'm not downing bw, I just don't know her as well is all.

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@rudebomberboy01: How are they not featless? Though I didn't see Avengers Confidential so I wouldn't know for Black Widow. But still, the videos provided doesn't give that much knowledge of how powerful Batman and Black Widow is.

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i'm going with widow only because they really nerfed Batman in that movie

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Also, i'll say that i'm describing batman's usual gear. I haven't seen that movie, so if he doesn't have any of that stuff, then bw takes it. Otherwise, I think the bat takes it

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@don_sevour: look at cassandra cain

no powers, yet she can dodge bullets from like a foot away

can become a blur while sprinting etc

such a bullshet character

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#19  Edited By Don_Sevour

@spider-manwins: that's fine... don't really see how that relates to this though. Um, it seems like this site is more focused on cinematic feats than actual stated powers, is that true? It seems like logic goes out the window over an anomaly, but I could be wrong... Also, hi, i'm new, but I love debating... as long as it's logical

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@don_sevour:

Sure thing, I don't mind giving you information about her, but I won't get into the 'who wins' debate. She's pretty barebones, I don't think she even uses guns. She has however hit some of her opponent's pressure weakpoints instantly incapacitating them with her energy gauntlets. Whatever that's worth :P

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@rudebomberboy01: yeah, but it's that bareboned-edness that makes me not wanna vote for her, if the bat feel threatened, he'll sway and use range. And he's well experienced and preared to face just guns. That's all i'm saying.

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@jkfallen said:

@rudebomberboy01: How are they not featless? Though I didn't see Avengers Confidential so I wouldn't know for Black Widow. But still, the videos provided doesn't give that much knowledge of how powerful Batman and Black Widow is.

You will need to watch those movies to get a full picture.

Batman and Widow are far from featless.

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Batman.

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@don_sevour: idk, i dont lik batman nor black widow, so im out

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Avengers Confidential was so bad I fell asleep

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