#1 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Both have one year to plan. Both have highly detailed files on one-another and will do whatever and I mean whatever it takes to wipe the other off of the face of the planet.

#2 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther. (cause he's black)

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#3 Posted by Megaman ZX (220 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman because he knows how to be stealth

#4 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Black Panther. (cause he's black)"

I agree, BP has more resources and is black.

#5 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Megaman X says:

"Batman because he knows how to be stealth"

So does Black Panther. Plus he's black.

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#6 Posted by TimeKeeper (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a tough one, but I gotta go with BP.

#7 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Megaman X says:
"Batman because he knows how to be stealth"
So does Black Panther. Plus he's black."

i'll take black panther because he's black.

#8 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

BP because he's better.

#9 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"BP because he's better."

and blacker.

#10 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait a minute, Black Panther is actually black?

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#11 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Wait a minute, Black Panther is actually black? "

Oh... My... God!!!

#12 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Wait a minute, Black Panther is actually black? "

#13 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm joking I'm joking.

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#14 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Well actually he is a deep mohogany with red and gold undertones. But he is African......aaaaaaaand he's black.

#15 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"Well actually he is a deep mohogany with red and gold undertones. But he is African......aaaaaaaand he's black. "

yes he is. you know i always wondered why there aren't any black male top tier superpowered characters in marvel.

#16 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Sling Shot says:
"Well actually he is a deep mohogany with red and gold undertones. But he is African......aaaaaaaand he's black. "

yes he is. you know i always wondered why there aren't any black male top tier superpowered characters in marvel."

I made a thread about why are none of the top speedsters black? I mean shouldn't there be at least one black speedster as fast if not faster then the Flash?

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#17 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Apparition says:
"Sling Shot says:
"Well actually he is a deep mohogany with red and gold undertones. But he is African......aaaaaaaand he's black. "

yes he is. you know i always wondered why there aren't any black male top tier superpowered characters in marvel."

I made a thread about why are none of the top speedsters black? I mean shouldn't there be at least one black speedster as fast if not faster then the Flash?"

i posted in that one...

i noted at least 3 black speedsters, two of them are definitely faster than the flash

M

#18 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Gambler says:
"Apparition says:
"Sling Shot says:
"Well actually he is a deep mohogany with red and gold undertones. But he is African......aaaaaaaand he's black. "
yes he is. you know i always wondered why there aren't any black male top tier superpowered characters in marvel."
I made a thread about why are none of the top speedsters black? I mean shouldn't there be at least one black speedster as fast if not faster then the Flash?"
i posted in that one... i noted at least 3 black speedsters, two of them are definitely faster than the flash M"

they must not appear in print much.

#19 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Gambler says:
"Apparition says:
"Sling Shot says:
"Well actually he is a deep mohogany with red and gold undertones. But he is African......aaaaaaaand he's black. "

yes he is. you know i always wondered why there aren't any black male top tier superpowered characters in marvel."

I made a thread about why are none of the top speedsters black? I mean shouldn't there be at least one black speedster as fast if not faster then the Flash?"

i posted in that one...

i noted at least 3 black speedsters, two of them are definitely faster than the flash

M"

And like I said before, there under developed and nobody knows them. They don't have there own series and 8/10 people wouldn't know them from Adam.

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#20 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

true...

maybe the next 'flash' will be black...

would be nice now they've broken the 'allen' bloodline

M

#21 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

I remember an episode of the X-Men animated series on Fox and Storm went back to Africa and she had a son who was a speedster and I thought that was the $#@! but it never made its way to the comics. The boy was fast to, he out ran the Shadow King I think.

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#22 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah but i'd settle for a great brick. the strongest ones i can think of are phastos in marvel and cyborg in dc. but tell me if i'm missing someone.

#23 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"yeah but i'd settle for a great brick. the strongest ones i can think of are phastos in marvel and cyborg in dc. but tell me if i'm missing someone."

John Irons and Jon Stewart (Green Lantern) he rocks in the animated JLA.

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#24 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

i forgot irons and stewart is great. i think dc is more open to minority characters.

#25 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange

#26 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"i forgot irons and stewart is great. i think dc is more open to minority characters."

I think you may be right. But Brother Voodoo could be cool as well as Patriot from Young Avengers. But I can think of alot more black DC characters then I can of Marvel. Oh snap, Luke Cage, I cant believe I forgot Luke Cage. hangs head in shame

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#27 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Rotten gun says:

"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"

I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster.

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#28 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Apparition says:
"yeah but i'd settle for a great brick. the strongest ones i can think of are phastos in marvel and cyborg in dc. but tell me if i'm missing someone."

John Irons and Jon Stewart (Green Lantern) he rocks in the animated JLA."

he kicks a$$ in the comics as well...

he took down Superman quite easily...

one of the few green lanterns who can say that... actually, thinking about it, only John Stewart, Hal Jorden and Killowog have ever taken down Superman...

M

#29 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Rotten gun says:

"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"

yeah but he isnt :p

#30 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Apparition says:
"i forgot irons and stewart is great. i think dc is more open to minority characters."
I think you may be right. But Brother Voodoo could be cool as well as Patriot from Young Avengers. But I can think of alot more black DC characters then I can of Marvel. Oh snap, Luke Cage, I cant believe I forgot Luke Cage. *hangs head in shame*"

but look at cage. he can lift like 25 tons. where are the guys who can lift 100+?

#31 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Gambler says:
"Apparition says:
"i forgot irons and stewart is great. i think dc is more open to minority characters."
I think you may be right. But Brother Voodoo could be cool as well as Patriot from Young Avengers. But I can think of alot more black DC characters then I can of Marvel. Oh snap, Luke Cage, I cant believe I forgot Luke Cage. *hangs head in shame*"

but look at cage. he can lift like 25 tons. where are the guys who can lift 100+?"

True true. And if you think about it they aren't in any hurry to make new characters it seems like. Instead they just revamp an old one.
Post Edited:2007-08-11 03:26:52

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#32 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."

but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?

#33 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Rotten gun says:

"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."

but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"

I'm not sure what your driving at? I want a black superhero who is as fast if not faster then the Flash. I don't care if he's in the Marvel U or DC. I don't care how, why, or when he got his speed. I just want him to be black. K?

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#34 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Rotten gun says:

"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."

but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"

anyone can be a speedster, it's the speedforce that gives them their speed, not their body.

M

#35 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

The black characters thaey have are usually B listers.

Brother Voodoo<Dr Strange

Rocket Racer, Prowler<Green Goblin, Venom

Luke Cage<Hercules Thor WonderMan Vision

Falcon< Cap America

Battle Star< USAgent

Photon gave her name of Cap Marvel to a (kree)white dude. Then the White dude wanted Photon so she gave him that and changed to Pulsar.

Their are more examples from the big 2 especially but you get the idea although I'm sure alot of you don't.

#36 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Rotten gun says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."

but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"

I'm not sure what your driving at? I want a black superhero who is as fast if not faster then the Flash. I don't care if he's in the Marvel U or DC. I don't care how, why, or when he got his speed. I just want him to be black. K?"

More a role than an individual, the current form of the Black Racer is that of Sgt. Willie Walker, paralyzed and made mute by wounds received during the Vietnam War. When a murder took place outside his window, and the killer came after him as a possible witness, the Black Racer—drawn to Earth as Darkseid brought Apokolips’ war with New Genesis to Earth, and drawn to Sgt. Walker in particular—intervened. The Source, an unimaginable power which drives, or perhaps oversees, the universe, then chose Walker to take on the role of the Black Racer. Findng he could move, he put on the Racer’s armor and became Death’s agent.
Post Edited:2007-08-11 03:36:51

#37 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

What happened to my very extensive and significant post?

#38 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."

but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"

I'm not sure what your driving at? I want a black superhero who is as fast if not faster then the Flash. I don't care if he's in the Marvel U or DC. I don't care how, why, or when he got his speed. I just want him to be black. K?"

More a role than an individual, the current form of the Black Racer is that of Sgt. Willie Walker, paralyzed and made mute by wounds received during the Vietnam War. When a murder took place outside his window, and the killer came after him as a possible witness, the Black Racer—drawn to Earth as Darkseid brought Apokolips’ war with New Genesis to Earth, and drawn to Sgt. Walker in particular—intervened. The Source, an unimaginable power which drives, or perhaps oversees, the universe, then chose Walker to take on the role of the Black Racer. Findng he could move, he put on the Racer’s armor and became Death’s agent."

Yeah I've heard of him before. During the Imperiax war thingy Steel got jacked up releasing Doomsday and the Black Racer came and took him. But instead of taking him to the after life he took him to Apocalypse and Darkseid put Jon in one of those apathy suits or what ever it was called.
Post Edited:2007-08-11 03:38:17

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#39 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambler says:

"Methos says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."

but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"

I'm not sure what your driving at? I want a black superhero who is as fast if not faster then the Flash. I don't care if he's in the Marvel U or DC. I don't care how, why, or when he got his speed. I just want him to be black. K?"

More a role than an individual, the current form of the Black Racer is that of Sgt. Willie Walker, paralyzed and made mute by wounds received during the Vietnam War. When a murder took place outside his window, and the killer came after him as a possible witness, the Black Racer—drawn to Earth as Darkseid brought Apokolips’ war with New Genesis to Earth, and drawn to Sgt. Walker in particular—intervened. The Source, an unimaginable power which drives, or perhaps oversees, the universe, then chose Walker to take on the role of the Black Racer. Findng he could move, he put on the Racer’s armor and became Death’s agent."

Yeah I've heard of him before. During the Imperiax war thingy Steel got jacked up realsing Doomsday and the Black Racer came and took him. But instead of taking him to the after life he took him to Apocalypse and Darkseid put Jon in one of those apathy suits or what ever it was called."

pretty much, he's another incarnation of Death for DC...

i swear, DC has more versions of Death than any other comic i know

M

#40 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"What happened to my very extensive and significant post?"

I saw it.

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#41 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Example of Blacks at marvel:

Brother Voodoo<Dr. Strange

Slyde, Rocket Racer, Prowler<Green Gob , DOc Ock, Venom

Cage< Hercules, Thor, WonderMan

Triatholon, Falcon, Battle Star<Cap America, USAgent,Left and Right Winger, Winter Soldier

Cap Marvel gave her name to a (kree) white dude.As Photon she gave it to the same white dude and became Pulsar. Pretty soon somebody white (and kree) will 'ask' for her name and she will be Flashlight....no.no she'll be Blacklight..right pretty cool right guys. I guess you get the point but I'm pretty sure plenty of you don't.

#42 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

why did that happen again?

#43 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"why did that happen again?"

? Are you saying there are more blacks at Marvel? I'm lost man really. I just want a black speedster is all and Apparition wants a black powerhouse equal to Superman.
Post Edited:2007-08-11 03:46:52

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#44 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

No. in a post I wrote that mysteriously isn't showing up,for me at least. I compared Marvel's black characters to their caucasian counterparts to exhibit their B-levelness.

I wrote to Ult X and they published my letter about this type of thing issue 78 I think. My pseudonym was V.

#45 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Sling Shot says:

"No. in a post I wrote that mysteriously isn't showing up,for me at least. I compared Marvel's black characters to their caucasian counterparts to exhibit their B-levelness.I wrote to Ult X and they published my letter about this type of thing issue 78 I think. My pseudonym was V."

Ohhhh I see. They both showed up for me. Thats tight you took an active roll in bringing some attention to this topic.

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#46 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."
but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"
I'm not sure what your driving at? I want a black superhero who is as fast if not faster then the Flash. I don't care if he's in the Marvel U or DC. I don't care how, why, or when he got his speed. I just want him to be black. K?"
More a role than an individual, the current form of the Black Racer is that of Sgt. Willie Walker, paralyzed and made mute by wounds received during the Vietnam War. When a murder took place outside his window, and the killer came after him as a possible witness, the Black Racer—drawn to Earth as Darkseid brought Apokolips’ war with New Genesis to Earth, and drawn to Sgt. Walker in particular—intervened. The Source, an unimaginable power which drives, or perhaps oversees, the universe, then chose Walker to take on the role of the Black Racer. Findng he could move, he put on the Racer’s armor and became Death’s agent.
Post Edited:2007-08-11 03:36:51"

this post?

#47 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont see slingshot on there.

#48 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"Methos says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"Gambler says:
"Rotten gun says:
"flash's speed has nothing to do with muscle strength speed or power, under those circumstances he could be orange"
I don't care what color Flash is, thats not my point. I'm saying there should be a prominent black speedster."
but why should he be faster than the flash if the natural elements needed for speed are null and void in the flashes case?"
I'm not sure what your driving at? I want a black superhero who is as fast if not faster then the Flash. I don't care if he's in the Marvel U or DC. I don't care how, why, or when he got his speed. I just want him to be black. K?"
More a role than an individual, the current form of the Black Racer is that of Sgt. Willie Walker, paralyzed and made mute by wounds received during the Vietnam War. When a murder took place outside his window, and the killer came after him as a possible witness, the Black Racer—drawn to Earth as Darkseid brought Apokolips’ war with New Genesis to Earth, and drawn to Sgt. Walker in particular—intervened. The Source, an unimaginable power which drives, or perhaps oversees, the universe, then chose Walker to take on the role of the Black Racer. Findng he could move, he put on the Racer’s armor and became Death’s agent.
Post Edited:2007-08-11 03:36:51"

this post?"

No, its this one.

Sling Shot says:

"The black characters thaey have are usually B listers.Brother Voodoo"
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#49 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

i remember that whole thing with captain marvel. that was just horrifyingly annoying.

#50 Posted by Constantine (16046 posts) - - Show Bio

batman