#201 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Batman.
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#202 Posted by entropy_aegis (15198 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Batman.

HUH? Has T'Challa been depowered or something?

#203 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

With 12 hours prep I am giving this to Batman

#204 Edited by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

@Vance Astro said:

Batman.

HUH? Has T'Challa been depowered or something?

No, but this thread was created long before he was upgraded. The OP intended for the fight to between the T'Challa that was current at that time and Batman. Otherwise it's a mismatch and I would have locked it.
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#205 Posted by cameron83 (7190 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Batman.Sure T'challa has the tech and all,but everyone is completely disregarding his tech,especially his armor that is filled with gadgets and took hits from superman,bane,solomon grundy,a super powered OMAC,etc.....I am sorry,but bruce wins in tech,although not by far.And doesn't batman have an energy shield,and his suit is protected from blades.I mean,I love T'challa,but he's only winning by physique.Batman and his tech would stomp T'challa,especially since most of BP's tech,batman already has at hand and already has things to counteract that. T'challa doesn't really have anything impressive compared to Batman.And I love T'challa,but bruce takes this.

#206 Posted by jashro44 (20800 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83 said:

I say Batman.Sure T'challa has the tech and all,but everyone is completely disregarding his tech,especially his armor that is filled with gadgets and took hits from superman,bane,solomon grundy,a super powered OMAC,etc.....I am sorry,but bruce wins in tech,although not by far.And doesn't batman have an energy shield,and his suit is protected from blades.I mean,I love T'challa,but he's only winning by physique.Batman and his tech would stomp T'challa,especially since most of BP's tech,batman already has at hand and already has things to counteract that. T'challa doesn't really have anything impressive compared to Batman.And I love T'challa,but bruce takes this.

Batman took hits from superman when he was holding back as much as possible. The vibranium suit cancels out a majority of batmans gadgets. I cannot see what batman can do to black panther with the vibranium suit.

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#207 Posted by Skaddix (3114 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention Batman has his face exposed why would Grundy or Superman just not punch him in the face. Assuming of course it was not PIS

#208 Posted by New_World_Order (13025 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther probably.

#209 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

If Black Panther has access to Wakandan resources he takes it. If not, i could see Bruce pulling it off.

#210 Posted by Jigme (25 posts) - - Show Bio

Sonic weapons,superpowered gundam suits with the powers of the justice league,electric weapons,advanced tech re-engineered from all tech-based jla villians,a super-computer capable of analyzing all possible outcomes of a situation,a prep master who has come up with ways to beat the league with tech ranging from micro-illusion device to nanobots that burst into fire,outright creating new crystals like red-kryptonite....etc.Batmans got all these and much,much more stashed in his Bat-cave like a filthy porn collection.needless to say,the panther becomes batmans ass-wipe.

#211 Posted by jashro44 (20800 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jigme said:

Sonic weapons,superpowered gundam suits with the powers of the justice league,electric weapons,advanced tech re-engineered from all tech-based jla villians,a super-computer capable of analyzing all possible outcomes of a situation,a prep master who has come up with ways to beat the league with tech ranging from micro-illusion device to nanobots that burst into fire,outright creating new crystals like red-kryptonite....etc.Batmans got all these and much,much more stashed in his Bat-cave like a filthy porn collection.needless to say,the panther becomes batmans ass-wipe.

Batman rarely if ever uses sonic weapons and black panther can prep for sonics, black panther has tech which is capable of shutting down skrull and dooms tech, the super computer is not full proof IIRC batman has to enter the data in manually and the scenarios are only based on the data entered, Black panther has come up with ways of beating silver surfer and mephisto and did batmans plans of beating the justice league work?

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#212 Posted by Jigme (25 posts) - - Show Bio

For the most part,yes.My point was,batman has access to way,way more tech,given his jla membership,villians,paranoia about other heroes turining to the crooked.etc.his entire game-plan against other superhumans is "do more homework than them"you have a point about t'challa capable of shutting down the skrulls and dooms tech but whats he gonna do when bats puts on the flash suit or even remotely begins to use the weapons store in his bat-toy cupboard.batmans reverse-engineered all tech he has come across.alien or not.o think thats as impressive as what youve posted.i sure hope vibranium is effective against mind-control devices.lastly,how the fuck did he beat silver-surfer.

#213 Edited by jashro44 (20800 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jigme: Black panther also has "paranoia" with super humans. He joined the avengers to spy on them. He does his home work just as well as batman does. How is batman suppose to prepare when all the tech in Gotham is shut down along with most of his weapons? And what is the flash suit? Can I see scans or an issue reference of this? As for beating the silver surfer, Black panther hacked dooms computers and stole his method and robbing the power of cosmic. He stole his power of cosmic and punched him out.

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#214 Edited by jashro44 (20800 posts) - - Show Bio

Bringing this over to the appropriate topic.

Not sure why you brought up galactus>>>batman,darkeid,mephisto,bp? ok random...

Spectre>>>>Galactus....your point?

You brought up darksied. I brought up galactus because black panther has prep on him (no idea how you misunderstood that).

Yes really, besides again Darkseid>>>mephisto, the fact someone as low level as BP defeated mephisto proves my point further, and while ds didnt beg batan he still needed him not to mention respected his mentality and wits..

The only reason black panther beat mephisto was because of prep. Which was actually a lot more then what batman did to darksied.

besides, it's a known fact mephisto is highly weaker not in his realm which is where bp defeated him, he wouldn't do so in mephisto's world. Unlike darkseid who has his power levels despite where he is...

Mephisto beat silver surfer outside his realm IIRC.

Doesn't matter, Batman still did a crazy feat

No he didn't it was mother box.

"Mother box explained that to me and reprogrammed the lot."

besides if you're going to use the"batman needed apocalypse tech" argument well i can say well BP is nothing without his suit,

Difference being is the vibranium suit is black panthers. Mother box is not batmans device.

where is Batman has acheived better feats over time with less protection...

He hasn't.

Actually, Batman did beat those people but perhaps not with his fists but with his wits if not with his fists like green k vs superman for example

Batman has never beaten superman. Not once.

Credit to citizenbane since this was stolen from his blog. It contains every fight between superman and batman canon and non canon.

Batman #428

Batman's trying to bring the Joker to justice for beating Jason to death and blowing him and his mother up, but Joker was conferred diplomatic immunity by Iran (don't ask), so Superman's telling him to calm down since there's nothing he can do. Batman gets angry, and...

End result: Batman punches Superman and is saved from being Oracle before Oracle because Superman rolled with the punch. Advantage Kal-El.

The Dark Knight Returns (non canon)

The Superman of the TDKR universe is considerably weaker than the New Earth version (he was almost killed by a nuke). A fight where Superman is holding back considerably, exposed to kryptonite courtesy of Green Arrow, and more concerned about Batman's health than his own, ends with Superman holding Batman's body after he suffers a near fatal heart attack.

End result: Note how Batman claims that he's "the one man who beat you". Batman can claim whatever he wants. Even with one-sided prep and backup, the fight didn't end with him holding Superman's seemingly dead body, did it? Advantage Kal-El.

JLA #44

The infamous Tower of Babel incident, where Ra's al Ghul steals Batman's contingency plans for bringing down the JLA and employs them against the various members. Turns out Batman's plan for taking down a rogue Superman was a specially engineered form of red kryptonite that wreaked havoc with Superman's ability to metabolize sunlight.

End result: This is probably the only canon incident that could be used to claim any kind of win for Batman over Superman. And it's not even a direct encounter. A lot of people claim that since Ra's could easily pull this off, Batman should also be able to. Couple of points regarding that:

  • Ra's has resources that dwarf Batman's. In The Resurrection of Ra's al Ghul he told Tim Drake that comparing the Wayne fortune to his own wealth would be akin to comparing a drop of water to the ocean or something along those lines. He also has an army at his beck and call that he can deploy to achieve his desired effect. It would be much easier for Ra's to do something like this than it would be for Batman.
  • Batman is a member of the League, and thus under constant scrutiny from the people he's plotting against. Ra's operates in the shadows, he does not have to worry about Superman finding out about what he's up to. Especially since he's not even a League villain.

I guess if you stretch a little, Batman is potentially capable of this. Very well, advantage Batman.

The Dark Knight Strikes Again (non canon)

That image of Batman punching Superman in The Dark Knight Returns is spammed mercilessly on the battle forums despite the fact that Batman didn't even win. He actually fought Superman and won in the sequel to TDKR. This example isn't as well known as TDKR because TDKSA sucks the big one. Seriously, it is unbelievably bad. But anyway:

End result: With the help of the Flash, the Atom, Green Arrow and years of prep, Batman manages to defeat Superman in a direct encounter. Even though Superman just wanted to talk. Still, this is the only instance of Batman ever beating Superman in any published content, but it's not canon.

Batman #612

Probably the most famous fight between the two. Or given that the only image from this fight that ever sees the light of day is the one where Batman punches Superman, it's probably the most famous fight between the two that no one bothers actually reading before posting "LOL SUPERMAN GOT PUNCHED OUT BY BATMAN, SO HULK SMASH PUNY KRYPTONIAN".

End result: First and foremost, this was written by Jeph Loeb. 90% of the things Jeph Loeb writes require a liberal suspension of disbelief, even for comics. He thinks a tiny piece of kryptonite stuck in a ring is enough to lower Superman's durability to the point where Batman can make him bleed. Why Superman even gave Batman that ring, I'll never be able to figure out. If he ever actually went rogue, a kryptonite ring is not going to stop him from simply nuking Bruce with his heat vision. But ok, I'll play along. Note three things: that Batman himself says that if Superman wanted he could kill him with superspeed, that Batman himself says that if he continually punches Superman every bone in his hand will shatter, and that Batman himself says that Superman is holding back as much as he can while fighting Ivy's control. Even so, after hitting Kal with all the electricity in Metropolis, the battle still comes down to Catwoman putting Lois in danger, forcing Superman to break Ivy's control and save her instead of beating Batman to death with a car. Look at that scan. If Catwoman had been a few seconds late, Superman would have brought a car weighing several tons down on Bruce's head, and exactly what could he possibly do about that? Advantage Kal-El.

Superman: Red Son (non canon)

Another Elseworlds story (and a really good one at that). If you haven't read this, you should.

End result: Batman tying up Wonder Woman is ludicrous in itself, which is probably why it happens off-panel. Batman's prep in this situation isn't really his own, the idea of red solar lamps came from Lex Luthor. Batman just provided the venue. Anyway, he defeats a powerless Superman until Wonder Woman summons all her strength to snap the lasso and eliminate the lamps, restoring Superman to full power. Faced with Superman who actually has his powers, Batman quickly decides that suicide via explosion is the most prudent option available to him. Advantage Kal-El.

Superman/Batman #2

The first of a series of fights between the two in this series. Here Superman and Batman fight an alternate future version of Superman. I've included this because technically, it's still Superman vs Batman in canon content.

End result: Evil Supes backhands Batman and is about to throw a car at him, something Bruce a) cannot do anything about, and b) cannot survive. He runs out of time before that happens and fades away to his own timeline. Advantage evil Kal-El.

Adventures of Superman #642

Superman is mind-controlled by Max Lord and placed in an illusion where he thinks he's fighting Darkseid (he says it's Ruin, but that might simply be an error), but in reality he's fighting Batman. He's enraged because he saw Darkseid kill Lois in the illusion, so he's taking it out on Batman.

End result: While fighting off the Watchtower's defenses, Superman nearly murders Batman, who is saved by the intervention of Wonder Woman. Advantage Kal-El. Duh.

Superman/Batman #23

Bats is possessed by the Kryptonite Man. That's right. He's literally glowing with kryptonite.

End result: While literally glowing with kryptonite, Batman still loses to Superman. Advantage Kal-El.

Superman/Batman #33

Here Batman was under the control of an alien life form called the Blackrock. He had super powers. Legit super powers!

End result: With legit superpowers, Superman still beat him so hard the Blackrock got scared and abandoned him. Advantage Kal-El.

Justice League #2

This fight is the first face-to-face encounter between Superman and Batman post-Flashpoint. I've only included the Batman stuff since the rest of the fight is mostly GL and Flash, so it's irrelevant.

End result: Batman throws literally everything he has at Superman and it doesn't do squat. Who do you think has the advantage here?

Batman: The Dark Knight #5

This is their most recent fight, and already the single image of Batman punching Superman is circulating everywhere as if that's what the fight actually was. Batman is on Bane's new Venom, and with it he somehow hits Superman hard enough to make him bleed. That in itself is PIS, mainly because if this new Venom amps your strength to the point where you can hurt a Kryptonian, then Batman should have been splattered across the wall when Clayface and Bane hit him while they were on the drug. Towards the end of the fight, Batman starts channeling Frank Miller, so Superman goes like:

End result: Even with the PIS strength and durability increase, Superman still wins with one punch. Advantage Kal-El.

and obviously you never saw jl doom or read that arch.

Tower of babel? Ra's al Ghul stole the plans and beat the justice league....Thing is Ras has far superior resources then batman so Ras doing it is irreverent to me.

that proves Batman at any time could take out his jl peers easily if he wanted. All of them combined are more powerful then one ss.

It does not.

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#215 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

PREP-TIME! THE ULTIMATE COP-OUT!

#216 Posted by BigCimmerian (8071 posts) - - Show Bio

It's stalemate or Black Panther barely wins.

#217 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh, i don't really like battles like this. Give these two prep and there are way too many options to work with.

#219 Posted by Omnicrono (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

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I am slightly confused as to why there are still people who claim that The Dark Knight Returns is not canon. Can somebody help me out?

#220 Posted by nightwing737 (1098 posts) - - Show Bio

Intelligence: Batman

Strength: Batman

Speed: Black Panther

Durability: Black Panther

Power: Black Panther

Combat: I don't know

Winner: Who knows

#221 Posted by SUNMAN (7228 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther he doesn't handicap himself the way Batman does, plus he has the clear stat advantage

#222 Posted by dondave (36503 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther ftw

#223 Posted by dondave (36503 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

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I am slightly confused as to why there are still people who claim that The Dark Knight Returns is not canon. Can somebody help me out?

It's set in an alternate universe

#224 Edited by russellmania77 (15008 posts) - - Show Bio

batman

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#225 Edited by hsm1 (55 posts) - - Show Bio

Intelligence: Batman

Strength: Batman

Speed: Black Panther

Durability: Black Panther

Power: Black Panther

Combat: I don't know

Winner: Who knows

IMO. T'Challa would beat Bruce in the intelligence department.

#226 Posted by Amaranth (8210 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther. Prep is the wildcard of course, but all things being equal Black Panther is physically superior and has better gear.

#227 Edited by spiderbuck (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Challa

#228 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3645 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman.

#229 Posted by SUNMAN (7228 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther. Prep is the wildcard of course, but all things being equal Black Panther is physically superior and has better gear.

pretty much, and it's not like BP doesn't have high level prep feats either

#230 Posted by Lynkz7 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanwithatan01: I would have to say Black Panther.

Batman would get some good hits in but the overall would be to T'Challa. It wouldnt really be a fight though.....it would be more like a real time high speed version of a Chess game. Their personalities can be considered polar opposites considering that Bruce is more is more of a cynic. But heir combat styles are similar in the fact that they encompass many forms of martial arts and fighting to the point that they've created their own type of martial art that works for them. They both have tremendous Judo type moves and attack breakers that render opponents' attacks useless. They are both terribly intelligent but Batman is more of a lone strategist...BP has to coordinate a whole army(not that thatll help 1 on 1) but it does have its advantages. Its safe to say that they'd have a pretty close W:L:D ratio.

I mean theyd easily own everyone else if they had to team up. but this is where my bias comes in so ill stop here:P

#231 Edited by plaZeHD (21 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther. His vibranium claws puts Batman to death.

#232 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3645 posts) - - Show Bio

@lynkz7: I like T'Challa as well. I'd wager Bruce is DCs black panther, only caring for Gotham the way he does Wakanda, having tech and ridiculous resources though I'd give that one to T'Challa. Intellect I'd give to Bruce, Hand to hand even. Bruce more skilled while T'Challa better predatorial instincts in battle. T'challas suit is Bruce's biggest issue and it's the only thing swaying towards bp imo. However with Batmans ability to handle fighters with his gizmos I think it about evens out. I mean I could flip a coin on either honestly. It comes down to preference and I prefer Bruce over T'Challa because I like DC street levelers better

#233 Posted by Inconvenient_Truth (2362 posts) - - Show Bio

black panther is superhuman now

#234 Posted by WALLCRAWLER (124 posts) - - Show Bio

The vibranium suit is a huge advantage

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#236 Edited by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Black Panther takes this.

Before the upgrade,Batman would win.

#237 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is my favorite character - but Black Panther would take this. It would be a close fight, and an awesome one no doubt, but T'Challa's would take a small majority.

#238 Posted by adhd_assassin (524 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre upgraded black panther takes this. The vibranium suit is just one thing on bp's side. He has full access to wakanda's tech. Even with his prep, batman loses.

#239 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Challa takes this.

Pre-upgrade, he takes it with the Vibranium Suit, loses without.

#241 Edited by SunnyTheKnight (4 posts) - - Show Bio

WELL, I AM NETHER BATMAN NOR BLACK PANTHER ,SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING DO IN THEIR FIGHT HOWEVER I THINK BATMAN WILL THIS FIGHT. WELL IF I AM BLACK PANTHER THEN I AM SURE THAT I CAN DEFEAT BATMAN AND IF I AM BATMAN THEN I CAN 100 % DEFEAT BLACK PANTHER!!!!

Well ,Batman can lift more than 1000 lbs ,if needed he can lift/hold more than or around 1 ton for very-very short time (as per marvel strength scale ,it comes under enhanced strength ) ,not only this he can break a tree into two pieces with a kick and has often defeated opponents whose size, strength, or other powers greatly exceeded his own. He has spent his entire life in pursuit of physical perfection and has attained it through constant intensive training and determination.

Batman's Senses, Reflexes, Endurance, Agility, Strength, Speed ,all of them are beyond pick human condition. In addition to this Batman have indomitable will. His determination and strength of will make him an extremely formidable opponent. This makes him able to function while tolerating massive amounts of physical pain, and also allows him to resist most forms of telepathy or mind control.

Batman's speed and reactions are such that he is able to dodge point blank gunfire and he has also caught one of Green Arrow's arrows in mid flight when he tried to shoot him. He is a master of all martial arts, he is said to be the best Martial artist in the DC universe along with Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon and Bronze Tiger.

Batman is a master of stealth ,his ninjutsu allows him to breach high security facilities without being detected. His stealth abilities are so great that even metahumans with good sensory skills have trouble at detecting him.He is also proficient in gymnastics and acrobatics, he is a master acrobat.

Batman is a weapon master ,through his martial arts training , he has become a master and proficient with knives, sticks, swords and many other weapons. He is also expert marksman, he is skilled with throwing projectile weapons ,archery and firearms. His accuracy is on with Green Arrow

Batman have genius level intellect and have photographic memory, virtually peerless, detective, strategist, scientist, tactician, and commander; he is widely regarded as one of the keenest analytical minds in the DC Universe . Given his lack of superpowers, he often uses cunning and planning to outwit his foes, rather than simply "out-fighting" them. He is known as one of the greatest strategists and tacticians in the dc universe. Due to this Batman is considered as the Most Dangerous on the Earth.

Batman is widely considered as the World's Greatest Detective, capable of observation, forensic investigation, and inductive and deductive reasoning of the highest calibre. Given any mystery, he can arrive at the correct conclusions with a fraction of the data.Batman is adept in interrogation techniques too. Batman is also master of tracking.

Batman can perform Ventriloquism, he is able to project his voice to sound as though it is coming from other places.

Batman has been described as second only to Mister Miracle as an escape artist or Escapologist.

Intimidation ,yeah it's an ability of Batman to install fear in others, even the people that know him best are intimidated by him. Even those who aren't afraid of the likes of Superman.

Batman owns vast array of weapons and advanced technologies (It's impossible to list out every weapons and technology that he posses, ) and have access to lots of resources and wealth ,

Well Black Panther have superhuman level Senses, Reflexes, Endurance, Agility, Strength, Speed. Now he can draw all the knowledge, strength, and every experience from every previous Black Panther when needed.

T'Challa can see in darkness as if it was a clear sunny day, something at over a few hundred feet appears as though it is right in front of his face. T'Challa's sense of hearing is enhanced in a similar manner, enabling him to hear sounds that an ordinary human can't and to be able to hear sounds that an ordinary human can, but at much greater distances. T'Challa can memorize tens of thousands of scents and track them to the exact location, can smell fear, and detect if someone is lying by change in body odour.

Black Panther is also good martial artist, he have knowledge of most of the martial arts. He is considered to be one of the best martial artists to have ever walked the Earth, his skills in martial arts rivals to of Captain America ,Ironfist and Daredevil.

T'Challa is a master acrobat.Black Panther has mastered all known weapons and he is a master marksman adept with hunting knives, firearms, and other projectile weaponry .He is also a rigorously trained gymnast and acrobat.

T'Challa is a genius and has photographic memory. His genius is as such that he is one of the eight smartest people on Earth of Marvel universe. T'Challa is also a great tactician, strategist, and leader. His capabilities are such that he is able to out think and out maneuver individuals such as Tony Stark. Like Tony Stark ,he can also invent various devices with special properties when needed.

T'Challa's have advanced technologies (It's impossible to list out every technology that he have, ) and have access to lots of resources and wealth ,

Well, T'Challa's armor is good and strong compare to Batman's Batsuit ,as Batman is not a armored fighter like tony stark but he is a hero who is more confident in his own abilities rather than in his equipment however Batsuit can capable of emitting an electromagnetic pulse which my disrupt T'Challa's armor.

Nether Batman nor T'Challa likes to fight recklessly , both of them are of a kind who will try to find their opponents weaknesses ,first however Batman is much more calm and cool than any other superhero(which includes superheros of DC as well as of Marvel).

Well, with 12 hours of preparation time ,Batman can easily find weaknesses of Black Panther [T'Challa's have heightened senses. So no matter how strong his armor is ,bright lights, Sonic attacks ,loud noises, & strong smells are going to affect him.(Not only Black Panther will be affected by bright lights, Sonic attacks ,loud noises, & strong smells but also Wolverine ,Daredevil and all other with great senses ability) (It should be noted that there are limits to the capacity of Vibranium to absorb vibratory energy, although the exact extent of these limits has not yet been determined.)] and he will be also able to find Black Panther's Psychology and mental capabilities about tech that is used by Black Panther. On the bases of this and many other information (I can't tell you every data that Batman will collocate, I am not Batman ,Lol!!! ) , Batman will prepare best strategy to defeat Black Panther. For example

{(Batman may entered into the arena with his vehicle which can be a plane or car or bike , and then he can bombard Balck Panther with and barrage of missiles and bullets ,it is also possible this whole fight will turn into a dogfight or a tank fight ,if Black Panther too use his advanced Wakandan aircraft or flying motorcycle )}

Well ,Batman will try use his best Batsuit which will give him maximum protection and agility ,he can use a suit enhanced with Apocalypse tech or Element X or Heavy Armored Batsuit or Batman's beyond suit or maybe he can use his normal and most basic Batsuit (Well, I am not Batman, so there is no way what Batman will use)(well there are more than 200 batsuits and nobody knows function of every suit )He will try to creates a pitch black situation(a situation without light , a situation darker than the black) where both of them are unable see anything (Black Panther's sight allows him to see in total natural darkness however this far more than natural darkness ) ,this will force Black Panther to use his superhuman senses or maybe he will avoid using them and use sonar and IR vision to track Batman moreover how ever in both the cases Batman will use sonar and IR vision to track Black Panther and barrage fire Diamonded or Uraniumed tipped bullets or maybe use barrage of bomb consist of Diamonded or Uraniumed tipped piecing shards and chemicals that reacts with or corrodes most of the elements ,compounds, alloys and vibranium. With combination of flash bangs. Batman will also use this cover of darkness to bring Batbots which will comforts Black Panther , till this whole time Black panther will under the effect of Batman's intimidation and at the end Batman will detonate whole arena which will brought end to the Black panther while Batman will able to escape the blast ,remember he is one of the best Escapologist.

Well, T'Challa can defeat Batman ,if he can outwit Batman , Which ,I think is not possible , Batman is not Tony Stark, nether he knows about Batman's personalty ,even if he was able deduce Bat's personality he won't be able to understand Bat's psychology(till now no one in the DC universe able to understands Bat's way of thinking ) , at best T'Challa will try to use his best and armour with best Agility, he also try to create a way to protect his weaknesses ,So that Batman cant exploit his weaknesses ,i.e. his heighten senses .He will also try to create a situation where he can defeat batman within 30 minutes -60 minutes or as fast as he can. At best possible scenario ,T'Challa will try to fight Batman in a direct combat to take advantage of his full power and technology but sadly if T'Challa can think 2 step ahead of his opponent than Batman can think 10 steps ahead of his opponents.

NO MATTER HOW GREAT TACTIC IS , IT WILL BE ALWAYS USELESS AGAINST A GREAT STRATEGY!!!!

T'Challa with his superpower and best armor cant wins against Batman's paramount strategy however T'Challa can surprise Batman with his great tactic but that won change the outcome.

Conclusion Batman will use preparation time in modifying weaponries and creating tactics and strategies while Black panther will use this time to developing or modifying his tech or in outthinking Batman which is not possible. Even if Black Panther tries to create a strategy while keeping in mind that he is going to fight a guy who is great thinker and very strong , even then he cant match Batman. Batman is a guy who can give up a his 100 winning battle and face a big lose ,just to win a war !!!!( War >>>> 100 Battles)

#242 Posted by adhd_assassin (524 posts) - - Show Bio

Remember, bp isnt a slouch in the prepping department, either. Plus, im not sure if bats can develope a counter for the vibranium suit either. All this along with pb formulating his own plan and that he's about the same with h2h, black panther takes it.

#243 Posted by ShadowHuntR (456 posts) - - Show Bio

I find it funny people saying Black Panther has the edge because he is superior in term of strenght WHEN Batman defeats stronger opponents most of the time...

#244 Posted by Marshall_Long (1951 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll give Batman the edge though I could be wrong.

#245 Posted by jackbensley777 (648 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman wins... this would be better with black panther vs catwoman

#246 Posted by dondave (36503 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman wins... this would be better with black panther vs catwoman

How did that thought even enter your mind?

#247 Posted by jackbensley777 (648 posts) - - Show Bio
@dondave said:

@jackbensley777 said:

Batman wins... this would be better with black panther vs catwoman

How did that thought even enter your mind?

bc black panther CATwoman duh

#248 Posted by comic_book_fan (5569 posts) - - Show Bio

batman

#249 Posted by Batman15 (192 posts) - - Show Bio

Ummm.. Batman insider suit..

#250 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12021 posts) - - Show Bio

bc black panther CATwoman duh

Ideas like that are what creates spite threads and locked threads....that's like saying Cheetah vs Tigress is a good idea, but I doubt you even know what I'm getting at.