batman vs bane and hawkeye - Battles

#1 Posted by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

VS

Round 1

Morals are on

both have standered gear and bane is off venom (pre and post 52 feats are allowed)

win by any means

everyone begins visible

begin 50 feat apart

Round 2

Same as round 1 except morals are off for everyone and bane is on knightfall levels of venom

Location

Both rounds take place here:

Who wins and why?

#2 Posted by Hero4life (256 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

If you mean movie Bane this would be a good battle, but comic book Bane he can't do much here. So Batman.

He would beat Hawkeye easily both rounds.

#3 Posted by CitizenBane (19907 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@Hero4life said:

If you mean movie Bane this would be a good battle, but comic book Bane he can't do much here. So Batman.
He would beat Hawkeye easily both rounds.

It says "pre and post 52 feats". How did you arrive at the conclusion that this was movie Bane?

#4 Posted by thejokesonyoubats (21 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

movie bane distracts bats while hawk eye shoots him. Im tired of everybody thinking batman can win because he is batman.

#5 Posted by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

This is not movie bane...

#6 Posted by KnightRise (3712 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@Hero4life said:

If you mean movie Bane this would be a good battle, but comic book Bane he can't do much here. So Batman.
He would beat Hawkeye easily both rounds.

You forget that Bane, without Venom, is still near peak in physical prowess, cunning, and conditioning.

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#7 Posted by minigunman123 (3100 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@thejokesonyoubats: You fail. It's not the movie version of Bane.

That said, I think that it'd be an interesting fight. I think Batman would probably lose. I also haven't read squat about Hawkeye or Bane beyond some feats, their powers and abilities, and seen them on TV shows. So don't take my word as fact.

#8 Posted by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Bump

#9 Posted by MrShway88 (499 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Day or Night?

#10 Posted by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@MrShway88: Day

#11 Posted by Kinasin_ (1136 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@Hero4life said:

If you mean movie Bane this would be a good battle, but comic book Bane he can't do much here. So Batman.
He would beat Hawkeye easily both rounds.

How is movie bane a better battle than comic book bane who outclasses movie bane in every possible way? Batman wins btw. I don't remember bane new 52 being shown while not being on venom so feats are kind irrelevant on the end of the spectrum. Bane on venom new 52 outclasses old bane in every way and laid a beating on batman.

I'll give this match to Batman.

#12 Posted by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@Kinasin_: Just to clarify you can use both pre and post new 52 feats here.

#13 Posted by Kinasin_ (1136 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@Kinasin_: Just to clarify you can use both pre and post new 52 feats here.

You say bane is off venom. His new 52 feats he was on a new form of venom that turned him into his strongest incarnation. Batman got saved by flash in that battle. I don't really get why you would say off venom and then give him new 52 super venom feats. If this is the case then I'll have to go with team two. Hawkeye is a non-factor.

#14 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (13875 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Bane is strong and intelligent enough to provide lots of trouble for Batman. I think he could hold off Batman long enough for Hawkeye to provide additional support from a distance using his impressive array of arrows. Also, Hawkeye is a skilled combatant as well and could hold his own with Batman. In Round 1 it should be close but I think Bane and Hawkeye might pull off a win via Bane's ruthlessness, while Batman's morals will hold him back a bit.

Round 2 would be just as close as Round 1 because Bane already has almost no morals. Hawkeye would be deadlier, but so will Batman. Batman will not hesitate to use kill-blows on Bane, and I think he could take out Bane in a good fight, while dodging Hawkeye's arrows. Hawkeye is not as skilled as Batman, and a bloodlusted Batman will kill Hawkeye in minutes. I'd say Batman takes Round 2 in a tough battle.

#15 Posted by Kinasin_ (1136 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Round two Batman.

#16 Posted by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

@Kinasin_ said:

@jashro44 said:
@Kinasin_: Just to clarify you can use both pre and post new 52 feats here.
You say bane is off venom. His new 52 feats he was on a new form of venom that turned him into his strongest incarnation. Batman got saved by flash in that battle. I don't really get why you would say off venom and then give him new 52 super venom feats. If this is the case then I'll have to go with team two. Hawkeye is a non-factor.

I think there is a misunderstanding here. I am allowing you to use pre flashpoint feats and post flash point feats for both batman and bane. Meaning banes fights against batman and any other showing he received before the flash point is legit. Basically this is pre flash point bane since as you said post flashpoints only showing is on a new form of venom.

#17 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Round 1- Batman wins.

Round 2- Bane and Batman fight while Hawkeye shoots an Adamantium arrow through Batman. Team wins

#18 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

i didn't see prep time mentioned, but if Bane organizes Hawkeye onto one of those higher spots and plays his cards right he could find out a way to take Batman out. Hawkeye, when given orders by someone almost level with Batman on intellect is deadly.

#19 Posted by Nefarious (16259 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

Batman should win both rounds.

#20 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (178 posts) - 10 months, 1 day ago - Show Bio

If it is Bane and Hawkeye together then I honestly see Hawkeye just nailing Batman, this goes for both rounds. If someone has a reason why Hawkeye wouldn't be a threat to Batman then please let me know. Hawkeye is pretty much perfect with archery. He wouldn't be called Hawkeye if he sucked. I think Hawkeye could take Batman alone. The only way Hawkeye would lose is if Batman gets close enough to him, which could happen... I'm not saying that Batman would lose every round but I wouldn't necessarily count out Hawkeye.. Bane on the other hand... its a good fight between him and Batman alone..

#21 Edited by Kinasin_ (1136 posts) - 10 months, 20 hours ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@Kinasin_ said:
@jashro44 said:
@Kinasin_: Just to clarify you can use both pre and post new 52 feats here.
You say bane is off venom. His new 52 feats he was on a new form of venom that turned him into his strongest incarnation. Batman got saved by flash in that battle. I don't really get why you would say off venom and then give him new 52 super venom feats. If this is the case then I'll have to go with team two. Hawkeye is a non-factor.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. I am allowing you to use pre flashpoint feats and post flash point feats for both batman and bane. Meaning banes fights against batman and any other showing he received before the flash point is legit. Basically this is pre flash point bane since as you said post flashpoints only showing is on a new form of venom.

In that case Batman both rounds.

Edit-

You might want to edit your OP in regards to post FP feats being allowed for bane. Considering he has none while not amped on venom.

#22 Posted by Strafe Prower (11535 posts) - 10 months, 20 hours ago - Show Bio

The team

#23 Edited by Shawnbaby (5868 posts) - 10 months, 19 hours ago - Show Bio

Team both rounds.
Hawkeye wouldn't beat Batman alone but with Bane there as well...I don't see how batman wins without PIS.

#24 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (178 posts) - 10 months, 10 hours ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: Why wouldn't Hawkeye beat Batman alone? What makes you say that? I'm pretty sure if Batman gets hit by any of Clints arrows he is done for.

#25 Edited by Le_Piaf (180 posts) - 10 months, 10 hours ago - Show Bio

@SpawNgengiskhaN: First of all Hawkeye need to hit Batman with one of his arrows. Plus Batman could sustain the impact of some of the arrows Hawkeye is packing, his suit is not just for show.

#26 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (178 posts) - 10 months, 6 hours ago - Show Bio

@Le_Piaf: Ya I know its not just for show, but fully counting out Hawkeye so quickly is kind of ridiculous if you ask me. I don't think Hawkeye would have a problem with hitting Batman and he certainly doesn't just use one type of arrow. I know that he would be done for if Batman got ahold of him(got close to him) but to completely say that he would for sure lose is underestimating Hawkeye in my opinion.

#27 Edited by Shawnbaby (5868 posts) - 10 months, 6 hours ago - Show Bio

@SpawNgengiskhaN said:

@Shawnbaby: Why wouldn't Hawkeye beat Batman alone? What makes you say that? I'm pretty sure if Batman gets hit by any of Clints arrows he is done for.

Just don't think Hawkeye can take a majority over Batman alone is all...he might get a couple wins but Batman probably takes 7/10 or 8/10. Regardless I still think that the Clint/Bane Team will prove to be too much for Bruce.

#28 Posted by (((Prodigy))) (2444 posts) - 10 months, 6 hours ago - Show Bio

Bane, even without Venom, is very nearly neck-and-neck with Batman when he's by himself. Giving him a buddy with some decent skills and powerful long-distance attacks will make Batman's chances a bit slim.
I'd put my money on the team to win both rounds.

#29 Posted by Matezoide2 (15980 posts) - 10 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

@(((Prodigy))) said:

Bane, even without Venom, is very nearly neck-and-neck with Batman when he's by himself. Giving him a buddy with some decent skills and powerful long-distance attacks will make Batman's chances a bit slim. I'd put my money on the team to win both rounds.

This.....Batman cant win,at all.

#30 Posted by (((Prodigy))) (2444 posts) - 10 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

@Matezoide2 said:

@(((Prodigy))) said:
Bane, even without Venom, is very nearly neck-and-neck with Batman when he's by himself. Giving him a buddy with some decent skills and powerful long-distance attacks will make Batman's chances a bit slim. I'd put my money on the team to win both rounds.
This.....Batman cant win,at all.

He has a shot, but only if he manages to somehow eliminate Hawkeye from the fight before Bane engages him. But, even for Batman, that would be quite a feat.

#31 Edited by jashro44 (9330 posts) - 10 months, 5 hours ago - Show Bio

I know I'm the op but I just feel the need to mention that batman in most fights with bane batman goes hand to hand with him. If he fought intelligently and used his utility belt he could have less difficulties. The most I have ever seen batman use against bane is 3 batarangs. As for round 2 I think it should be noted batman does know a few nerve strikes/pressure points which could kill and he does have some items in his utility belt which could kill so a morals off batman is a lot different then a morals on one. I'm not saying he wins I'm just listing some possible factors.

#32 Posted by SpawNgengiskhaN (178 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: I disagree. I'd say Hawkeye has more of a chance of winning more than just 2/10 or 3/10 rounds. Clint shot a dude moving in the air without even looking( he was facing the other way) and the guy exploded I believe. As long as Clint keeps good distance and has his bow I'm sure he would win more rounds. I mean just think of it this way... if Clint hits Batman in his leg, he could blow off his leg. Clint is basically perfect with archery. Anyways, that is why people have their opinions I guess and there is no facts against a battle that has never happened.

#33 Posted by Erik (27224 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Hero4life said:
If you mean movie Bane this would be a good battle, but comic book Bane he can't do much here. So Batman.
He would beat Hawkeye easily both rounds.
It says "pre and post 52 feats". How did you arrive at the conclusion that this was movie Bane?

LMAO

I think the team is going to prove too much for Batman.