Batman is transported into the ELDERSCROLLS universe. He only has what ever gear he generally carries on him. He can use any weapons from the ELDERSCROLLS universe and can have one person follower (from ElderScrolls universe). Batman is training and has a week of prep. ALDUIN at full power. Doesn't have to be to death, 1st to victory,
Batman vs Alduin
@sync1: not all the time or against every foe. plus hes in a different universe. no access to his toys or anything. in a week he'll have time to more around the map a little.
@Shawnbaby said:
@sync1 said:
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: how?
Batman has prep time. He can do some nasty stuff with prep.
Prep time...with no access to any of his resources.
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: not all the time or against every foe. plus hes in a different universe. no access to his toys or anything. in a week he'll have time to more around the map a little.
He has access to the Elderscrolls weapons + one follower. Follower as in from DCU or their universe? Either way, Batman takes it.
@sync1: the follower is from elderscrolls universe. batman can have any weapon sure. but he doesnt know what he is searching for or how to use it when and if he finds it. there is no internet in elderscrolls for info and stats, just bards. have you even played an elderscrolls games?
@sync1 said:
@Shawnbaby said:
@sync1 said:
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: how?
Batman has prep time. He can do some nasty stuff with prep.
Prep time...with no access to any of his resources.
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: not all the time or against every foe. plus hes in a different universe. no access to his toys or anything. in a week he'll have time to more around the map a little.
He has access to the Elderscrolls weapons + one follower. Follower as in from DCU or their universe? Either way, Batman takes it.
I find it difficult to believe that Batman with none of his own resources and no prior information on Alduin wins here with just a week of prep. That's my opinion.
@sync1 said:
@Shawnbaby said:
@sync1 said:
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: how?
Batman has prep time. He can do some nasty stuff with prep.
Prep time...with no access to any of his resources.
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: not all the time or against every foe. plus hes in a different universe. no access to his toys or anything. in a week he'll have time to more around the map a little.
He has access to the Elderscrolls weapons + one follower. Follower as in from DCU or their universe? Either way, Batman takes it.
follower from Elderscroll universe. NO GODS.... He could use grey beards
@Shawnbaby said:
@sync1 said:
@Shawnbaby said:
@sync1 said:
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: how?
Batman has prep time. He can do some nasty stuff with prep.
Prep time...with no access to any of his resources.
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: not all the time or against every foe. plus hes in a different universe. no access to his toys or anything. in a week he'll have time to more around the map a little.
He has access to the Elderscrolls weapons + one follower. Follower as in from DCU or their universe? Either way, Batman takes it.
I find it difficult to believe that Batman with none of his own resources and no prior information on Alduin wins here with just a week of prep. That's my opinion.
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: the follower is from elderscrolls universe. batman can have any weapon sure. but he doesnt know what he is searching for or how to use it when and if he finds it. there is no internet in elderscrolls for info and stats, just bards. have you even played an elderscrolls games?
The follower can provide moderate information on the weapons. Although I'm only assuming that Batman will already have knowledge on the weapons? If not, he has a week's preparation with the weapons. He can also somehow involve his gadgets in the weaponry. There's a ton of possibilities that go into Batman's favor.
@sync1: more and more the idea that you havent played an elderscrolls game grows. please tell us one of these possibilities.
He doesn't have to kill him to win, Alduin just seemed like a normal dragon to me, albeit slightly more powerful. I got the impression that the reason he wasn't defeated before was because nobody could defeat him in battle. you could just trap him in a cage somewhere and drop by every once in a while to cut off his regenerating limbs and laugh in his face. They did that to Odahaviin and Numinex. At the same time not being a DragonBorn puts Bats at a disadvantage. He could still learn DragonShouts as StormCloak did,
@sync1: you arent listing anything noteworthy because you dont know anyhting about the subject. you're just saying batman wins repeatedly with vague ideas why.
@BeaverSauce: alduin can only be incapacitated with the ancient shout. which the character in the game had to travel into the past to get it. batman is not a dragonborn. he loses by default.
@theTimeStreamer said:
@sync1: you arent listing anything noteworthy because you dont know anyhting about the subject. you're just saying batman wins repeatedly with vague ideas why.
@BeaverSauce: alduin can only be incapacitated with the ancient shout. which the character in the game had to travel into the past to get it. batman is not a dragonborn. he loses by default.
trapped and incapacitated are two different things. Alduin lands without the shout plenty of times. Just waiting for the right moment he could be trapped by something a 100 tons, I don't think Alduin is on Superman Strength level to lift that much.
@BeaverSauce: and how do you get 100 tons on him? we dont know his strength but he is the world eater.
@theTimeStreamer: They managed to move massive stones to build the castles, I assume they have pulleys and ways similar to the Ancient Egyptians to move massive objects. Even without that Mages can use Telekinesis to move objects, or Giants as slave labor. Or Batman is Tech Savvy enough to hotwire some dwarven centurians to help. As for strength it did take alduin some effort to tear holes through the helgen castles and much of the structures were intact. A 100 ton scale person like hulk or superman could turn a building into dust.
Batman could only do this with a good few months of prep. He would need the assistance of the locals to build some advanced siege weapons, when the end of that week rolls around Batman is going to get cooked. He could hide out in some of the more fortified cities prolonging his prep time.
@agentxx said:
Alduin is a planet buster in lore
spite thread is spite.
This. Also, Alduin, like all gods in Elder Scrolls, is actually a planet. All ES gods are planet busters, because they are easily capable of killing each other. They are also shapeshifters. Alduin in lore is about a bazillion times stronger than in the game. As of the time of Skyrim, he was the 2nd strongest god in our universe, only behind Jyggalag in power. And counting all the gods to have ever existed, he's still 7th in power behind Anu, Sithis, Nirn, Akatosh, Magnus and Jyggalag. Anu and Sithis were both universe busters. It was one of Anu's punches that created the universe, and all the lesser gods in it. Anu realized that if they continued their fight there, he would accidentally destroy his new children. So he pulled Sithis and himself outside of time, so they could do battle in an empty void for all eternity.
Alduin's purpose is to eat planets. In other words, to kill gods. Well, that's not entirely true. His real purpose was to forsake his duties and try to take over Nirn so that he could be killed by the Dovahkiin, thus fulfilling the final part of the Elder Scrolls prophecy, which was created by Anu for reasons that we can currently only speculate at.
If batman had one of the psijic monks as a follower that would help. It seemed they had reality warping powers. The eye of magnus would slow down alduin enough to set a trap. It took a day to trap Odhavvin. And why assume batman would get wrecked so easily, just because he can't officially kill him doesn't mean he can stand up to him in a fight, Batman has battle with God like figures such as Superman and Darkseid. I wouldn't dare put alduin against those powerhouses.
@XLR87T3 said:
Batman might win. He creates a giant automaton of ebony metal or lead a group of slave giants to smack the crap out of Alduin.
That wouldn't help one bit. If Alduin wished, he could destroy the planet easily. The only reason he doesn't in Skyrim is because he's greedy. He forsook his Anuic role as the Eater of Worlds to try and rule over Nirn and feast on the souls of Sovngarde. But, him forsaking his purpose was actually his true purpose, as it was predestined by the Elder Scrolls Prophecy.
So basically, Anu set Alduin up for failure. A full power Alduin that is concentrated on nothing but killing Batman though would just take on his true form and eat the planet.
No no no. if anyone here thinks Batman can defeat Alduin i am sorry but you are very very wrong. Alduin is one of the undefeatable gods. he cannot be defeated by mare means, Like people already said alduin could easily have destroyed Nirn. he is the world eater for godsakes.
Second Batman has no access whatsoever to his gear so basically prep time is useless in this case. Even if batman had his gear There is no way he can defeat alduin. Alduin could erase batman from ever existing i mean please explain to me how batman is going to kill someone Who is The Most feared and second powerful dragon Even dovahkhiin couldnt kill alduin. How is batman going to kill a god that casually goes into (Heaven) and hell to eat the souls of Dead people.
In defence to batman, He could get the dovahkhiin to fight alduin because that is basically all he can do.
To those of you who say that alduin can be killed by the greybeards, thats is one of the most stupid things i have ever heard. If they could they would have done it a millenia ago and we wouldnt need the Dragonborn.
@BeaverSauce said:
If batman had one of the psijic monks as a follower that would help. It seemed they had reality warping powers. The eye of magnus would slow down alduin enough to set a trap. It took a day to trap Odhavvin. And why assume batman would get wrecked so easily, just because he can't officially kill him doesn't mean he can stand up to him in a fight, Batman has battle with God like figures such as Superman and Darkseid. I wouldn't dare put alduin against those powerhouses.
Alduin would kill batman before bats could even think. then he would go to Sovengarde (Heaven) and kill bats the second time round
@XLR87T3 said:
@Laurcus: Maybe he could sell his world (showing a picture of earth) to save Nirn. If it works, Alduin would have to contend with earth's mightiest heroes.
Alduin can read bats mind. and i can bet that he has already been to earth. Plus name one earth hero who could take on alduin
@XLR87T3 said:
@Laurcus: Maybe he could sell his world (showing a picture of earth) to save Nirn. If it works, Alduin would have to contend with earth's mightiest heroes.
There's no reason for Alduin to care about one tiny planet. The reason he was so greedy for Nirn in Skyrim is because of the access to Sovngarde, which is a nearly limitless amount of souls for him to eat. Basically, Anu made him to eat 1 cake. He saw a 50 mile long buffet table, and decided to say screw the cake. Tempting him with another cake isn't gonna work, he has no reason to care.
@XLR87T3 said:
@Laurcus: Maybe he could sell his world (showing a picture of earth) to save Nirn. If it works, Alduin would have to contend with earth's mightiest heroes.
@XLR87T3 said:
@hudyman: The Flash (Wally West) for physical, the Spectre for magical.
@Laurcus: I'm sure Batman will think of something.
There's nothing to think of. A full powered Alduin, (as specified in the OP) is a cosmic entity. A true greater god that can destroy planets effortlessly, warp reality, manipulate time and who is immortal.
@Laurcus said:
@XLR87T3 said:
@hudyman: The Flash (Wally West) for physical, the Spectre for magical.
@Laurcus: I'm sure Batman will think of something.
There's nothing to think of. A full powered Alduin, (as specified in the OP) is a cosmic entity. A true greater god that can destroy planets effortlessly, warp reality, manipulate time and who is immortal.
This
@hudyman said:
@XLR87T3 said:
@hudyman: The Flash (Wally West) for physical, the Spectre for magical.
@Laurcus: I'm sure Batman will think of something.
what is flash going to do when he see's earth being broken in peices and suddenly finds himself in heaven?
If Alduin is on the planet, someone as powerful as Flash could physically hurt him, but cannot destroy him. If it starts out of earth, the Spectre or Phantom Stranger could do something.
@Floopay said:
I'm sorry but this should be locked. The only reason your main character can beat Alduin is because of Dragonrend. Even with a follower, Batman simply lacks what is necessary to do the job.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
Doesn't Dragonrend weaken the dragon's forces as well as putting them to the ground? That would explain why the Dovahkiin can harm Alduin.
Unless Batman can get the help of a Dovahkiin or Akatosh, he simply can't kill Alduin, he is a lesser Aedra and unlike a regular dovah who can be killed (but not permantly) by normal mortals,he simply can't,the warriors who tried to kill him where some of the best Thuum users(some of the best way to counter him),who invented Dragonrend,couldn't kill him, and with prep managed to get one of the must powerful artifacts on nirn(an Elder Scroll) and even with all that the best they could manage was BFR him.The Dovakiin managed to kill him because of two things 1.He was Dragonborn thus with enough firepower to do it 2.He had the support of Akatosh the most powerful of the Aedra and father of Akatosh.
I do believe people like Nabu and the Spectre could kill him,because of their godlike power,but physically according to lore he can't be killed.
@XLR87T3 said:
@Floopay said:
I'm sorry but this should be locked. The only reason your main character can beat Alduin is because of Dragonrend. Even with a follower, Batman simply lacks what is necessary to do the job.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
Doesn't Dragonrend weaken the dragon's forces as well as putting them to the ground? That would explain why the Dovahkiin can harm Alduin.
IIRC it forces them to feel mortality, which is agonizing to them. It's a weapon designed purely for the sake of defeating Alduin. Without the Dovahkin to use it, it was said he was would destroy the planet or something to that effect. Considering that means he would be dealing with beings who are dang near reality warping cosmic beings in power, I have to wonder how Batman could beat him.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
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