Batman & Tim Drake vs. Connor Hawke, David Cain & Jason Todd

2 vs 3? 
 
Gonna have to go with the 3... They got 2 people willing to kill. Batman has a weakness against Jason Todd.
Tim Drake is too much of a crutch for the Batman. 
 
It might be a little bit different if B&R were bloodlusted, but I doubt it would change much.

I can see current Tim doing some damage, but as Robin he is a liability.

"2 vs 3?  Gonna have to go with the 3... They got 2 people willing to kill. Batman has a weakness against Jason Todd.Tim Drake is too much of a crutch for the Batman.  It might be a little bit different if B&R were bloodlusted, but I doubt it would change much. "

"@The Mjolnir Wielder: Batman and Tim Drake win this "

" @Tian said:

"2 vs 3?  Gonna have to go with the 3... They got 2 people willing to kill. Batman has a weakness against Jason Todd.Tim Drake is too much of a crutch for the Batman.  It might be a little bit different if B&R were bloodlusted, but I doubt it would change much. "

That isn't going to be a factor here   

Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection].
 
With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease.

"Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection].  With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease. "

" @iLLituracy said:

"Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection].  With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease. "

I was tempted to replace Tim with Nightwing, but then team one would win easily. "

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @iLLituracy said:

"Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection].  With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease. "

I was tempted to replace Tim with Nightwing, but then team one would win easily. "

Not really, well in terms of hand to hand at least i still haven't decided if bats can take them with gadgets "

"Team 2 easy "

Bump. Bats could take them all 1v1 but out of concern for Tim he would hesitate. He could take Jason and stall Connor as David fights Tim, I imagine Tim could win. Then Bats defeats Jason and Connor with a little help from Tim.

Team 2.

Team 2

Team 2

Good match up. I'm leaning towards team Connor, but I don't agree with those who say Bruce and Tim have no chance. I believe Bruce could handle any two of those guys by himself. That leaves only one for Tim to deal with. If Tim can stall the weakest member, David Cain who he has managed to subdue before, or even stall him for a while, then I believe Bats could take out one of the other two. Fighting two on two, Batman and Robin win. They've practiced together time and time again.

Team 2. Not easily (It IS Bruce after all) but they pull a win. Connor's one of the best fighters in the universe and Jason's beaten Tim to a pulp twice now.

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

Team 2. Not easily (It IS Bruce after all) but they pull a win. Connor's one of the best fighters in the universe and Jason's beaten Tim to a pulp twice now.

It don't matter he ain't putting up a good fight with these three.

@iLLituracy said:

Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection]. With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease.

super ease any one on team two can beat tim,plus david can probably beat bats or hold him off

@darktiger said:

@iLLituracy said:

Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection]. With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease.

super ease any one on team two can beat tim,plus david can probably beat bats or hold him off

David could probably put up a fight, I remember in one of his earlier appearances holding off Batman, but nothing ever suggested that he could best Batman. I don't think, at least. In fact, the contrary was suggested when Batman beat David rather badly at the end of that one Brubaker arc, I think it was, when he framed Bruce Wayne.

@iLLituracy: O.o

Am I dreaming or did you just post in a battle? LOL

Also, i agree with what your saying.

Batman can take easy David Cain and Connor at the same time. Bruce has already beaten Cain easily, in less than a minute. Eventually it will be Batman against Connor, and Batman win against Connor. Pre New 52 Tim can not beat Jason, anyway. The current Tim, however, can beat Jason.

This is a good fight. Team 1 (Batman and Robin) is outnumbered, but they have an insane level of teamwork going for them, while Team 2 has zero teamwork. Also, while Tim would eventually lose to any one of Team 2's fighters, it will take longer than it would for Batman to beat anyone on Team 2. And Bats is more than capable of taking anyone on Team 2, even while holding off one of the others. He has owned both Cain and Todd in the past, knows their style well, and is basically in their heads. So I think pretty quickly it will go from 2 on 3 to 2 on 2.

@Strafe Prower said:

@iLLituracy: O.o

Am I dreaming or did you just post in a battle? LOL

Also, i agree with what your saying.

@iLLituracy said:

@darktiger said:

@iLLituracy said:

Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection]. With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease.

super ease any one on team two can beat tim,plus david can probably beat bats or hold him off

David could probably put up a fight, I remember in one of his earlier appearances holding off Batman, but nothing ever suggested that he could best Batman. I don't think, at least. In fact, the contrary was suggested when Batman beat David rather badly at the end of that one Brubaker arc, I think it was, when he framed Bruce Wayne.

you go for tim and batman

Team 2 have this, mostly because Tim is completely out of his league in this fight making this effectively a three vs one battle.

@Alexander505: Why do you say new52 Tim can beat Jason?

Cain and Connor can probably take Batman and Todd can hold off or beat Drake. Don't know a lot about Todd though.

@darktiger said:

@iLLituracy said:

@darktiger said:

@iLLituracy said:

Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection]. With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease.

super ease any one on team two can beat tim,plus david can probably beat bats or hold him off

David could probably put up a fight, I remember in one of his earlier appearances holding off Batman, but nothing ever suggested that he could best Batman. I don't think, at least. In fact, the contrary was suggested when Batman beat David rather badly at the end of that one Brubaker arc, I think it was, when he framed Bruce Wayne.

you go for tim and batman

Uhm, no.

@iLLituracy said:

@darktiger said:

@iLLituracy said:

@darktiger said:

@iLLituracy said:

Team 2 has serious range on Team 1, has the handicap over Team 1, and Team 1 has a serious weak link with Tim as opposed to Connor Hawke, who is one of the best martial artists in the DCU, David Cain, one of the best assassins in the DCU and Red Hood, someone who has beaten Tim twice [to my recollection]. With no prep, I think team 2 takes this with ease.

super ease any one on team two can beat tim,plus david can probably beat bats or hold him off

David could probably put up a fight, I remember in one of his earlier appearances holding off Batman, but nothing ever suggested that he could best Batman. I don't think, at least. In fact, the contrary was suggested when Batman beat David rather badly at the end of that one Brubaker arc, I think it was, when he framed Bruce Wayne.

you go for tim and batman

Uhm, no.

ok good

Team 2 should stomp.

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