Batman (team) vs Spiderman (team)

Spiders stomp

Any one of them could solo

@jobiwankenobi said:

Spider-Man team destroys.

Ben Reilly is the Scarlet Spider

@gumflabica said:

@jobiwankenobi: oh, really. sh!t!

he was... The current scarlet spider is Kaine.

Each team gets 1 week prep

Bat team win.

I am going to be the odd one out and say with one week of prep its very even. Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

On a random encounter Kane could solo.

Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

Parker is an poor idiot next to Batman.

@jobiwankenobi said:

@ChaosBlazer said:

@jobiwankenobi said:

Spider-Man team destroys.

Ben Reilly is the Scarlet Spider

he was... The current scarlet spider is Kaine.

I thought Kaine died shortly after he appeared because he was unstable, or maybe that was another clone. I can't follow the clone stuff especially if they're swapping titles too. Ben Reilly is the only clone I can tolerate, and only when he is the Scarlet Spider.

@gumflabica: Sorry, I was wrong. Sort of.

he died during Grim Hunt. Then he was brought back during the Spider Island arc as Tarantula, a massive spider thingy. Peter cured him of the spider-disease and also cured his cell degeneration. He took the stealth suit from Peter and is now using it to become the Scarlet Spider.

EDIT: Just saw that Strider typed in the same thing as me. He is correct.

@Alexander505 said:

Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

Parker is an poor idiot next to Batman.

He isn't poor and he isn't an idiot.

Granted, he once was poor, and Bruce is more knowledgeable than Peter. However.

He works at Horizon Labs now, he has plenty of resources, and he's shown time and time again that he is not an "idiot."

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

Parker is an poor idiot next to Batman.

Yep.

Regardless, Spidey team stomps here. Don't know why fanboys keep making threads of powered vs non powered without appropriate conditions. Just fills up board space with bad battles.

In this battle was included as an option a week of preparation. There is a big difference my dear.

Not surprisingly, those who gave the victory to the team of Spider-Man, are all fans of Marvel and not DC.

Spider team stomps

The main difference is that Bruce Wayne is in charge of a multinational company, is full of technology and is a master of strategy.

A week of preparation? Why should, Bat team they lose against the team of Peter Parker? I think this is a little strange.

Is not it strange? I'm not a fanboy of DC ... but it is strange indeed.

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

Parker is an poor idiot next to Batman.

Yep.

Regardless, Spidey team stomps here. Don't know why fanboys keep making threads of powered vs non powered without appropriate conditions. Just fills up board space with bad battles.

In this battle was included as an option a week of preparation. There is a big difference my dear.

Not surprisingly, those who gave the victory to the team of Spider-Man, are all fans of Marvel and not DC.

First off, I ain't your dear. Second, both teams have prep. Yes, team batman has worked together, and are FAR better at prep, but prepping for the Spiders is difficult with SS. Third, I like both. Batman is my actual fav character. I'm just not a delusional fanboy, and refuse to tow the stereotypical fanboy line.

I ask you a question: one week of preparation, the team of Peter Parker can beat the team of Tony Stark? Can Peter Parker, beat Lex Luthor?

Is this we're talking about here.

We're talking about Bruce Wayne who has found a way to beat Flash and Wonder Woman do not have any weaknesses.

The Batman Team stomp

Ok, then: JLA vs. Spider-Team ... ... Spider-team win. Great, now I understand what is the most powerful team in the world.

Let no one say more than Batman wins with prep, because he just lost against team of Peter Parker.

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

Parker is an poor idiot next to Batman.

Yep.

Regardless, Spidey team stomps here. Don't know why fanboys keep making threads of powered vs non powered without appropriate conditions. Just fills up board space with bad battles.

In this battle was included as an option a week of preparation. There is a big difference my dear.

Not surprisingly, those who gave the victory to the team of Spider-Man, are all fans of Marvel and not DC.

First off, I ain't your dear. Second, both teams have prep. Yes, team batman has worked together, and are FAR better at prep, but prepping for the Spiders is difficult with SS. Third, I like both. Batman is my actual fav character. I'm just not a delusional fanboy, and refuse to tow the stereotypical fanboy line.

I ask you a question: one week of preparation, the team of Peter Parker can beat the team of Tony Stark? Can Peter Parker, beat Lex Luthor?

Is this we're talking about here.

We're talking about Bruce Wayne who has found a way to beat Flash and Wonder Woman do not have any weaknesses.

Yes, they can. Bruce has found ways to beat Flash and WW because he has FIRST HAND experience with them. He knows them better than anything a week of prep would help him learn about the spiders. He learns best first hand. Most people do, especially in fights.

There are 2 ways he could win:

Go out of character full morals off: (I know the OP specifies morals off, but you separate Batman from morals, and you have a crappy character like Punisher (minus tons of skill of course), which I refuse to do to Batman) With full out of character morals off, Bruce whips up a 15 mile radius nuke and teleports the team out, killing team spidey instantly.

They have one fight, where team Bats loses. Then another with a week's prep. The 2nd fight, team Bat's wins with a week's prep. Why? Because Bruce will figure out how to exploit weaknesses and tendencies which make sense to him and his team in regards to their own tendencies. Using generic prep BS won't cut it against a team of very talented fighters and precognitive fighters at that.

True.

I agree, but now, another question: if Batman and immediately decided to equip himself and others with similar armor to that of Insider or another? If you have decided to make use of chemicals or toxins, as would end the battle?

@Strider92 said:

@Alexander505 said:

Ok, then: JLA vs. Spider-Team ... ... Spider-team win. Great, now I understand what is the most powerful team in the world.

How dare you!? We all know that this is the most powerful team in the world!!!:

Funny XD

@Alexander505 said:

Let no one say more than Batman wins with prep, because he just lost against team of Peter Parker.

Ok, then: JLA vs. Spider-Team ... ... Spider-team win. Great, now I understand what is the most powerful team in the world.

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

Ok, then: JLA vs. Spider-Team ... ... Spider-team win. Great, now I understand what is the most powerful team in the world.

Oh gosh, get over it.

I'm a Batman fan, and I don't get Batman fans like you.

Isn't it enough that you like the single most popular character in comics, that is currently WAYYYYYY atop the comic world? Batman has a better story than spiderman. He has better and more interesting villains. His world in general is more intellectually interesting. The Batman franchise is in all ways superior to the Spiderman franchise. So why can't you let them win a battle on a forum that they SHOULD win???

Fanboys don't get this. You don't have to be able to beat everyone all the time to be the best character. Batman is the best character because he's the deepest character in terms of history, thought and execution. He is totally DEFEATABLE! That's part of his appeal frankly. If you think he's great because he can beat anyone, you're missing the point.

Man, don't worry, I do not give anything to win Bat, was just saying that with a week of preparation, one like Batman would probably win ... that's all. Anyway we'll never know.

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

@Typhion said:

@Alexander505 said:

Granted even Spiderman (Peter) is one of the prep master to me batman has always appeared better with prep.

Parker is an poor idiot next to Batman.

Yep.

Regardless, Spidey team stomps here. Don't know why fanboys keep making threads of powered vs non powered without appropriate conditions. Just fills up board space with bad battles.

In this battle was included as an option a week of preparation. There is a big difference my dear.

Not surprisingly, those who gave the victory to the team of Spider-Man, are all fans of Marvel and not DC.

First off, I ain't your dear. Second, both teams have prep. Yes, team batman has worked together, and are FAR better at prep, but prepping for the Spiders is difficult with SS. Third, I like both. Batman is my actual fav character. I'm just not a delusional fanboy, and refuse to tow the stereotypical fanboy line.

I ask you a question: one week of preparation, the team of Peter Parker can beat the team of Tony Stark? Can Peter Parker, beat Lex Luthor?

Is this we're talking about here.

We're talking about Bruce Wayne who has found a way to beat Flash and Wonder Woman do not have any weaknesses.

Yes, they can. Bruce has found ways to beat Flash and WW because he has FIRST HAND experience with them. He knows them better than anything a week of prep would help him learn about the spiders. He learns best first hand. Most people do, especially in fights.

There are 2 ways he could win:

Go out of character full morals off: (I know the OP specifies morals off, but you separate Batman from morals, and you have a crappy character like Punisher (minus tons of skill of course), which I refuse to do to Batman) With full out of character morals off, Bruce whips up a 15 mile radius nuke and teleports the team out, killing team spidey instantly.

They have one fight, where team Bats loses. Then another with a week's prep. The 2nd fight, team Bat's wins with a week's prep. Why? Because Bruce will figure out how to exploit weaknesses and tendencies which make sense to him and his team in regards to their own tendencies. Using generic prep BS won't cut it against a team of very talented fighters and precognitive fighters at that.

True.

I agree, but now, another question: if Batman and immediately decided to equip himself and others with similar armor to that of Insider or another? If you have decided to make use of chemicals or toxins, as would end the battle?

Insider suit is an abominable PIS in my opinion, and I never refer to it. That's not Batman. If people wanted a superpowered fight in this thread, they would have asked for Spidey vs Supes. I'm sure he could employ toxins and chems, and they would be effective if done right, but vs precognition and the rate of dispersion for airborne toxins, I don't see toxins taking down most of team spider unless you ambush (which is SUPER hard to do against spider sense.)

To your credit, you've persuaded me that this might be a pretty good battle though. I've reconsidered, and given Bruce's TOTAL mastery of his resources vs Peter's limited access to his, plus a big team and prep advantage, this would be a good fight. Spider-Sense, in my opinion, tips the scale though. Since it has never had it's limits well defined, it's hard to say what's outta bounds for it. Team Spidey 6/10.

Yes, it would be a very interesting battle.

I love both characters but this is getting ridiculous. Batman with prep is out of control on this site. This is a stomp for team Spidey all day. Btw Bruce isn't on par in intelligence with characters like Reed, Lex, Doom and Stark. Why people keep saying that is beyond me. To say Peter is stupid? Really? You obviously are a blind fanboy and never picked up a comic with Spidey in it. He does have genious level intellect btw. Just not on par with characters I stated above. Pete's one of the best on the fly fighters in either universe, he's quick to come up with ways to defeat people that are out of his league intellectually and physically. Please stop using Bats taking down the JLA, he had years to prepare for that. Jeez if Spidey had kryptonite he could take out Supes too. Stop being bitter because your character loses. I'm not biased I like them both but that doesn't mean I'm delusional about who wins.

Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth. The fact is this without PIS and FIS(Fan Induced Stupidity) realistically there should be no way that the Bat team could physically keep up with Spidey's team. They are not going to be able to deal with the speed of Spidey's team. Now if this were in a comic where writers had control of Course team Bats would have a chance. Btw Pete's not a slouch in the prep dept either. People are really underating Pete's intelligence. If bloodlusted Spidey would solo this fight.

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub: FIS I like it, you mind if I use that in my debates?

I personally think Batman could prep against his Spidersense but even that's iffy and it would not be enough to beat them anyway.

Spidermans team wins hands down.

People are really underating Pete's intelligence

Peter is intelligent. Batman is a genius. It 's different.

@Alexander505 said:

People are really underating Pete's intelligence

Peter is intelligent. Batman is a genius. It 's different.

....Reed Richards has said that Peter is on the level he was at his age....

Peter Parker is a Genius.

@Sufferthorn said:

@Alexander505 said:

People are really underating Pete's intelligence

Peter is intelligent. Batman is a genius. It 's different.

....Reed Richards has said that Peter is on the level he was at his age....

Peter Parker is a Genius.

"Someone said," is not worth anything in the comics. Genius in what? In chemistry? Batman is a genius in the chemistry and in biology in mechanics, as in computing and electronics. Peter is a genius in what? Tactics, strategy? No. Of all the characters masters in strategy, Peter is not even among the list. Peter can not compete with Bruce, just like Peter can not compete with either Stark or Richars or Luthor. Peter has the same analytical and deductive intelligence of Batman? No. Peter is as rich as Bruce? It has the same technological means of Bruce? Peter is a inventor like Bruce? No, no, no.

@Alexander505:

Peter is a scientific Genius who developed web-shooters with a basic science-kit when he was 15. Don't go questioning "what" Peter is a Genius in. Spidey has shown a lot of resourcefulness in his preperation abilities.

He competes just fine....only problem HE has is that he isn't a Multi-Billionaire like Richards, Stark and Bruce. But currently he has a vast amount of resources from Horizon Lab....at least enough to create a machine that will give someone powers(Alpha). >_>

@acer51 you can use it any time! @Alexander505 wrong again. Pete is a genius, how do you think he made the web shooters? How about all of the special suits he's made to defeat certain characters with different abilities? Your fanboyism is why you are choosing Bats. After all he is your avatar.

@Sufferthorn said:

@Alexander505:

Peter is a scientific Genius who developed web-shooters with a basic science-kit when he was 15. Don't go questioning "what" Peter is a Genius in. Spidey has shown a lot of resourcefulness in his preperation abilities.

He competes just fine....only problem HE has is that he isn't a Multi-Billionaire like Richards, Stark and Bruce. But currently he has a vast amount of resources from Horizon Lab....at least enough to create a machine that will give someone powers(Alpha). >_>

All very nice and interesting, but..... it's all here, is not enough. Peter have a shortage of resources and also lack the experience. In more than 50 years in the comics book story, the only things that created is web shooters . Again, Peter is intelligent, but the Detective is on another level. The lack of money and resources available, is a huge disadvantage...just as the lack of some superpower.