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Posted by NoahMaximillion (328 posts) 11 months, 25 days ago

Poll: Batman's Villains VS Spider-Man's (95 votes)

Batman's Villains 18%
Spider-Man's Villains 79%
Too close to call 3%

#1 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

A few of the Spidey Villains can solo pretty much every Bat Villain other than Clayface.

#2 Edited by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby: Morlun could solo them all......possibly at the same time due to his life drain lol.

#3 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby: Morlun could solo them all......possibly at the same time due to his life drain lol.

Truth...I don't see him in the pic though

#4 Posted by NoahMaximillion (328 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92 said:

@shawnbaby: Morlun could solo them all......possibly at the same time due to his life drain lol.

Truth...I don't see him in the pic though

#5 Posted by tomlikesfries (4869 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man's villains, in order to keep up with Spidey who is on a different level than Batman, would obviously have be better than most villains of the Bat. If that made sense at all...

#6 Posted by homicidalmaniac (8264 posts) - - Show Bio

Who voted for Batman villains?

#7 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby said:

@strider92 said:

@shawnbaby: Morlun could solo them all......possibly at the same time due to his life drain lol.

Truth...I don't see him in the pic though

I know who Morlun is...I was saying I didn't se him in the pic you posted in The OP

#8 Edited by eternityx (2819 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by dorukesin (6955 posts) - - Show Bio

Some Spider-Man's villains can solo.Mismatch

#10 Posted by OreoAssassin (6251 posts) - - Show Bio

Alot can solo

#11 Edited by DeathandGrim (2087 posts) - - Show Bio

#12 Posted by schillenger420 (821 posts) - - Show Bio

By necessity, most of Spider-man's villains by actually have super-powers. The majority of Batmans badguys on the other hand are either highly trained assassins or just bat#@!@ insane.... sometimes both. The end result should be the Spiderman baddies doing something even the vaunted Batman never fully accomplished. They will have cleaned up Gotham for good, and then head back to New York for the biggest attempted group beatdown of Spiderman ever... Better run Parker.

#13 Posted by VoodooPenguin (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

Whatevs you spiderman fanboys/girls. obvs joker can solo

#14 Posted by Deathstroke19 (3799 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Edited by MarlboroMan (1790 posts) - - Show Bio

Just throw in Carnage there and you will learn why he is called Carnage

#16 Posted by dondave (38893 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey Villains

#17 Posted by Experio (17159 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man villain. They are more deadly and powerful.

#18 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@schillenger420: @shawnbaby: There's some big guns on Batman villains...if we follow Pre-flashpoint versions.

  1. Prometheus is there too....ife he's using the original that faced the JLA with a hell of a fight,due tecnology and the Cosmic Key.
  2. Doctor Phosphorus...nuclear energy.
  3. There is 4 active Clayfaces (Basil Karlo,Sondra Fuller,Cassius Payne,Johnny Williams)
  4. 70% of Batman's rogues are chemistry expert and have created deadly poisons or mind control chemicals,as Joker did in Joker Last Laugh,some villains aren't immune to chemicals.
  5. there some that can't being killed or can bring people from the dead as Lord Death Man and Mortician.
  6. The villains can be backed up by Ra's al ghul's resources and the League of Assassins,Talia al Ghul's Men-Bat and resources,Doctor Hurt's resources and allies,Penguin and Black Mask's resources.
  7. Poison Ivy can control plant life,even inside of a human and even created plant soldiers.

Cassius Payne is one of the biggest problems because if a piece of him is separated from his body, it can grow a mind of its own, but it mostly thinks in an unstable form of what Cassius wants. If bonded with another human, becoming a "Claything", the piece can give that human Clayface-like abilities, such as becoming soft and malleable, being able to withstand bullets and other harm, and could also manifest Payne's ability to melt objects; all this person would have to do is just think it.

Sondra Fuller is another bigger problem because she have similar abilities of the Clayfaces and additionally can copy any special powers of the being she is mimicking.

#19 Posted by patrat18 (10851 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Edited by Deranged Midget (17968 posts) - - Show Bio

No one on the Bat-team can even come close to replicating or even harming Sandman, then toss in Carnage, Lizard, Rhino, the Goblins, Scorpion, Octavius, and Kraven and you have basically have every category covered from sheer raw power, to tactical masterminds, etc.

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#22 Posted by Deranged Midget (17968 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Before the fight between users starts...

Mate you have read my comment above? About the Clayfaces? Doctor Phosphorus? Chemicals? Joker venom used in Joker Last Laugh? Also there isn't some much rules around so the richests Batman villains (R'as al ghul,Penguin,Talia al ghul,Black Mas II,Dr. Hurt) can use their resources to hire people too or bring their teams.

The only problem I see is Electro and Morlun. sondra Fuller can copy the most powerful of them and counter attack,Classius Payne can turn his teammates into clayfaces.

#24 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Before the fight between users starts...

Mate you have read my comment above? About the Clayfaces? Doctor Phosphorus? Chemicals? Joker venom used in Joker Last Laugh? Also there isn't some much rules around so the richests Batman villains (R'as al ghul,Penguin,Talia al ghul,Black Mas II,Dr. Hurt) can use their resources to hire people too or bring their teams.

The only problem I see is Electro and Morlun. sondra Fuller can copy the most powerful of them and counter attack,Classius Payne can turn his teammates into clayfaces.

A lot of what you are suggesting would require prep and specialised gear.

#25 Posted by CF12793 (2993 posts) - - Show Bio

No one on the Bat-team can even come close to replicating or even harming Sandman, then toss in Carnage, Lizard, Rhino, the Goblins, Scorpion, Octavius, and Kraven and you have basically have every category covered from sheer raw power, to tactical masterminds, etc.

This.

#26 Edited by Perethorn (3744 posts) - - Show Bio

Hydro Man can solo

Sandman can solo

Mysterio can solo

Venom can solo

Carnage can solo

Doc Ock can solo

Lizard can solo

Electro can solo

Green Goblin can solo

Vulture can solo

Scorpion can solo

Morbius can solo

And many other can...

This is a cruel mismatch

#27 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@deranged_midget: Explain how they can counter the Clayfaces ? Some of them are immune to cold,water,electricity in even in pre-flashpoint stories

@matchesmalone21 said:

@deranged_midget: Before the fight between users starts...

Mate you have read my comment above? About the Clayfaces? Doctor Phosphorus? Chemicals? Joker venom used in Joker Last Laugh? Also there isn't some much rules around so the richests Batman villains (R'as al ghul,Penguin,Talia al ghul,Black Mas II,Dr. Hurt) can use their resources to hire people too or bring their teams.

The only problem I see is Electro and Morlun. sondra Fuller can copy the most powerful of them and counter attack,Classius Payne can turn his teammates into clayfaces.

A lot of what you are suggesting would require prep and specialised gear.

@matchesmalone21 said:

@deranged_midget: Before the fight between users starts...

Mate you have read my comment above? About the Clayfaces? Doctor Phosphorus? Chemicals? Joker venom used in Joker Last Laugh? Also there isn't some much rules around so the richests Batman villains (R'as al ghul,Penguin,Talia al ghul,Black Mas II,Dr. Hurt) can use their resources to hire people too or bring their teams.

The only problem I see is Electro and Morlun. sondra Fuller can copy the most powerful of them and counter attack,Classius Payne can turn his teammates into clayfaces.

A lot of what you are suggesting would require prep and specialised gear.

I know,but where the rules? there is no rules in the op. Batman villains is too general,because there is the teams as League of Assasins,Kobra,Club of Villains,Leviathan,Mud Pack

Hydro Man can solo---------Mister Freeze

Sandman---------Clayaface (Basil Karlo) he can burn things and turn into glass or Doctor Phosphorus.

Doc Ock,Green Goblin,Lizard,Morbius,Scorpion,Mysterio,Venom,Carnage-------Clayface (Sondra fuller) all Clayfaces abilities and power mimic,Clayface (Cassius Payne) all Clayfaces abilities and similar Venom/Carnage abilities or Doctor Phosphorus radiation heat blast and control.

Green Goblin----------poison ivy

Also most of them can be affeceted by chemicals

#28 Edited by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

All the Talons?

Clayfaces?

Lol Batman villains win.

#29 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Without rules to say there is prep and specialised gear...there is neither

Be Specific About Fights

I think this is probably the most important rule, and when it’s followed, many other problems go away. When starting a battle you need to be specific about how everything is going to go down. This includes a lot of factors. A lot of posters just type "fighter 1 vs fighter 2, who wins?" and they're done. Putting just a little effort into it can sort out a lot of questions that pop up later. You can determine if the characters involved are acting in character (like they normally would as their personalities dictate), if they are “bloodlusted” or anywhere in between, how much time they get before the fight (prep), where they're fighting, what gear they have with them, which incarnation of the character, any power limitations, etc, etc. It really isn’t hard to flesh out the battle a little and it goes a long way.

Writing some options again to make sure they’re easy to see:

In Character or Bloodlusted

Prep Time or No Prep Time

Setting (time, location, bystanders, available resources, etc)

Gear (standard weaponry/gadgets/items, unarmed, special weapons)

Character Version (current version, original, alternate universe, etc)

Extra Rules (time limits, boundaries, what counts as win)

When these things are left out it’s generally assumed that characters are fighting to the best of their ability but still within the limits of their personality, using their standard gear, have no prep time, and are their current mainstream versions. Their starting distance is close and the setting is most often a city. Without any specifications to a battle, those are what we go by. It’s always best to give as much information about the fight in the first post.

#30 Edited by cameron83 (7643 posts) - - Show Bio
@cf12793 said:

@deranged_midget said:

No one on the Bat-team can even come close to replicating or even harming Sandman, then toss in Carnage, Lizard, Rhino, the Goblins, Scorpion, Octavius, and Kraven and you have basically have every category covered from sheer raw power, to tactical masterminds, etc.

This.

This

@dorukesin said:

Some Spider-Man's villains can solo.Mismatch

This

@oreoassassin said:

Alot can solo

And this.

@eternityx said:

@homicidalmaniac said:

Who voted for Batman villains?

fanboys.

Feels like it.

Most of Batman's villains are almost a non-factor to these guys....I mean,I love Batman (admittedly more than Spider-man),but even this is just cruel against his villains.

And Mysterio is a HUGE asset since he can provide illusions and he doesn't even HAVE to be on the battlefield.

#31 Posted by VMole (635 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman's villains are too mundane, save for a few I can count on one hand like Clayface and Ivy, compared to Spider Man's villains, the vast majority of which have superpowers or resources that make them a far more dangerous threat.

Imagine Carnage alone getting thrown into the middle of Batman's rogues gallery if they were so arranged in the picture, there would be nothing that a single one of them can do to stop him save for Firebug. Assuming Firebug doesn't care about the collateral damage (his teammates) when attempting to even hit Carnage with his flamethrower, he's the only one that can even hope to deal with him, and that's not going to be before Carnage horribly maims and/or murders most of the people around him.

#32 Edited by schillenger420 (821 posts) - - Show Bio

Hydro Man can solo

Sandman can solo

Mysterio can solo

Venom can solo

Carnage can solo

Doc Ock can solo

Lizard can solo

Electro can solo

Green Goblin can solo

Vulture can solo

Scorpion can solo

Morbius can solo

And many other can...

This is a cruel mismatch

Hydro man... no. He get's beat by Mr. Freeze. Easily.

Sandman.... possibly.

Mysterio. No

Venom. Does good but as someone else pointed out, Dr. Phosphorus is here and he'll present problems for any symbiotes. Venom doesn't solo.

Carnage. See above. Also doesn't solo

Doc Ock. No

Lizard. No.

Electro. Possible but doubtful

Green Goblin. No

Vulture. Hell No

Scorpiton. Hell No

Morbius. Don't know enough about Morbius to say but is he even in the picture?

Poison Ivy is a distinct threat here as well due to her pheremones and all the Spidey Villains being guys. Not that I think that would work on guys like Carnage or Morbius, but it would definitely work to some degree. How much of a degree I don't know but her flippin some of these guys is a valid tactic. All of this being said I still firmly believe the Spider Villians win, but anyone soloing is something of a stretch.

#33 Posted by GraniteSoldier (8933 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom and Carnage alone could speed biltz 90% of Bat's rogues. Green Goblin's mask has filtered the air against the likes of tear gas in the past if I remember, so he should filter Ivy's pheromones (symbiotes can do the same). Scorpion post-Big Time is pretty nasty, Morlun ('nuff said about him), Lizard, Kraven...

I'm not saying all of the above solo, but you put Venom and Green Goblin 2 v all and they stand a good chance. Either way all vs all Spidey's landslide this.

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#34 Posted by homicidalmaniac (8264 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom and Carnage alone could speed biltz 90% of Bat's rogues. Green Goblin's mask has filtered the air against the likes of tear gas in the past if I remember, so he should filter Ivy's pheromones (symbiotes can do the same). Scorpion post-Big Time is pretty nasty, Morlun ('nuff said about him), Lizard, Kraven...

I'm not saying all of the above solo, but you put Venom and Green Goblin 2 v all and they stand a good chance. Either way all vs all Spidey's landslide this.

#35 Posted by lesterlawton (905 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be funny to see the look on Joker's face as he gets obliterated in the first 10 seconds of the battle.

#36 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@cameron83: So you agreed with other user calling fan of fanboys?

@shawnbaby: Thanks mate,but still exist a problem. Is th teams allowed? League of Assassins,Kobra,Talia's Leviathan and Men-Bat ninjas? I Deathstroke included? Because he's recognized as Batman villain too,the same situation with Onomatopeia.

I believe Spider villains wins,but only because Electro and Morlun

#37 Edited by Wolverine08 (45597 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom and Carnage alone could speed biltz 90% of Bat's rogues. Green Goblin's mask has filtered the air against the likes of tear gas in the past if I remember, so he should filter Ivy's pheromones (symbiotes can do the same). Scorpion post-Big Time is pretty nasty, Morlun ('nuff said about him), Lizard, Kraven...

I'm not saying all of the above solo, but you put Venom and Green Goblin 2 v all and they stand a good chance. Either way all vs all Spidey's landslide this.

No one on the Bat-team can even come close to replicating or even harming Sandman, then toss in Carnage, Lizard, Rhino, the Goblins, Scorpion, Octavius, and Kraven and you have basically have every category covered from sheer raw power, to tactical masterminds, etc.

These pretty much sum it up really. The Batman villains really just can't keep up with the Spider-Man villains. Spidey's villains were simply made to combat someone who is ludicrously more powerful than Batman.

#38 Posted by matchesmalone21 (9182 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08:

Venom and Carnage alone could speed biltz 90% of Bat's rogues. Green Goblin's mask has filtered the air against the likes of tear gas in the past if I remember, so he should filter Ivy's pheromones (symbiotes can do the same). Scorpion post-Big Time is pretty nasty, Morlun ('nuff said about him), Lizard, Kraven...

I'm not saying all of the above solo, but you put Venom and Green Goblin 2 v all and they stand a good chance. Either way all vs all Spidey's landslide this.

4 different clayfaces some with power mimic and doctor phosphorus so no no Venom or Carnage speedblitz.

How much knowledge you have of the Batman villains anyway?

#39 Edited by GraniteSoldier (8933 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

@wolverine08:

@granitesoldier said:

Venom and Carnage alone could speed biltz 90% of Bat's rogues. Green Goblin's mask has filtered the air against the likes of tear gas in the past if I remember, so he should filter Ivy's pheromones (symbiotes can do the same). Scorpion post-Big Time is pretty nasty, Morlun ('nuff said about him), Lizard, Kraven...

I'm not saying all of the above solo, but you put Venom and Green Goblin 2 v all and they stand a good chance. Either way all vs all Spidey's landslide this.

4 different clayfaces some with power mimic and doctor phosphorus so no no Venom or Carnage speedblitz.

How much knowledge you have of the Batman villains anyway?

Quite a bit, I've followed Batman since I was a kid. How much do you know of Spider-Man villains? Before you start read my post, never said they solo. And I said 90% of Bat's villains. Venom and Carnage would cut most of the ranks in the opening volley of the fight.

If that question above sounded condescending, it's because the questions of "have you ever read X" always sound as such to me. Yes, I've read them, otherwise I tend to not comment on threads where I don't know the combatants.

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#40 Posted by nitenovanavium (66 posts) - - Show Bio

Some things I feel I need to point out, or, more or less confirm.

Ra's al ghul would do very well against many spider-man villains,

Does Solomon Grundy count as a Batman villain, Batman has fought him a lot, but Solomon Grundy is on Superman's par. He would TEAR through Spiderman Villains.

Deathstroke the terminator, would rip through people like Doc Oc, Black Cat, Reptile and Rhino four on one.

Freeze could probably take sandman, like, that would not be a stomp, He could immobilize him permanently, fo sure, not saying its definite, but he has a chance.

Both franchises have gone on for a long time. Batman has fought a lot of people, but how many of them would you consider HIS villains. He's fought Darkseid, but he's obviously Supermans... He fought the darkness, and jackie lost. (Cos no-one wants to be the guy who kills batman.) Shade, is pretty powerful.

All im saying is the fight is not so clean cut. Killer croc could 1v1 reptile. Especially the arkham asylum version. Bane could do the same with any of spiderman's brute villains. Freeze is super effective against symbiotes, Ivy is pretty strong. Do the ENTIRE league of shadows count? They have a small army of assassins.

I think its 45-55 in favour of batman IF he gets his slightly extended villain roster. Cos most of his stronger villains are technically justice league villains.

#41 Edited by schillenger420 (821 posts) - - Show Bio

@nitenovanavium said:

Some things I feel I need to point out, or, more or less confirm.

Ra's al ghul would do very well against many spider-man villains,

Does Solomon Grundy count as a Batman villain, Batman has fought him a lot, but Solomon Grundy is on Superman's par. He would TEAR through Spiderman Villains.

Deathstroke the terminator, would rip through people like Doc Oc, Black Cat, Reptile and Rhino four on one.

Freeze could probably take sandman, like, that would not be a stomp, He could immobilize him permanently, fo sure, not saying its definite, but he has a chance.

Both franchises have gone on for a long time. Batman has fought a lot of people, but how many of them would you consider HIS villains. He's fought Darkseid, but he's obviously Supermans... He fought the darkness, and jackie lost. (Cos no-one wants to be the guy who kills batman.) Shade, is pretty powerful.

All im saying is the fight is not so clean cut. Killer croc could 1v1 reptile. Especially the arkham asylum version. Bane could do the same with any of spiderman's brute villains. Freeze is super effective against symbiotes, Ivy is pretty strong. Do the ENTIRE league of shadows count? They have a small army of assassins.

I think its 45-55 in favour of batman IF he gets his slightly extended villain roster. Cos most of his stronger villains are technically justice league villains.

It's my understanding that if pic's are provided we're only supposed to use the folks in said pics. I believe this is done to keep people from bringing up feats that have been done by other versions of the character or sufficiently old versions of the character that they exist in a different 'age'. Therefor no Darkseid, and also no Grundy or Deathstroke. (and btw, in a random no-prep encounter Slade would probably get his butt handed to him by any number of these guys..... but that's a different battle entirely) I also don't see Morlun so folks bringing him up is kind of irrelevant as well. I'm also not sure how effective Freeze is against the symbiotes. They did survive hard space. I'm also not sure if the League of Shadows even counts, as that would imply there was enough prep for them to be notified and show up in the first place. Really that one's the Op's call.

#42 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

Some things I feel I need to point out, or, more or less confirm.

Ra's al ghul would do very well against many spider-man villains,

Does Solomon Grundy count as a Batman villain, Batman has fought him a lot, but Solomon Grundy is on Superman's par. He would TEAR through Spiderman Villains.

Deathstroke the terminator, would rip through people like Doc Oc, Black Cat, Reptile and Rhino four on one.

Freeze could probably take sandman, like, that would not be a stomp, He could immobilize him permanently, fo sure, not saying its definite, but he has a chance.

Both franchises have gone on for a long time. Batman has fought a lot of people, but how many of them would you consider HIS villains. He's fought Darkseid, but he's obviously Supermans... He fought the darkness, and jackie lost. (Cos no-one wants to be the guy who kills batman.) Shade, is pretty powerful.

All im saying is the fight is not so clean cut. Killer croc could 1v1 reptile. Especially the arkham asylum version. Bane could do the same with any of spiderman's brute villains. Freeze is super effective against symbiotes, Ivy is pretty strong. Do the ENTIRE league of shadows count? They have a small army of assassins.

I think its 45-55 in favour of batman IF he gets his slightly extended villain roster. Cos most of his stronger villains are technically justice league villains.

First off, It's Lizard...not Reptile. Obviously you don't know much about Spider-Man Villains if you don't even know Lizards Name. And He would completely obliterate Killer Croc. Croc is slower, less Durable, and weaker.

The versions of Grundy that Batman has faced have not been on Superman Level....they've been slightly higher than Street Level.

Deathstroke would not take a majority against Rhino or Lizard. Black Cat hasn't been a Spider-Man Villain for over 3 decades. But even if you just put Otto, Lizard, and Rhino up against Deathstroke...Slade dies.

Ra's would get destroyed by most Spider-Man Villains. He's Peak Human... put him up against guys like Rhino, Sandman, Electro, Venom, Green Goblin, and Carnage...and there won't be enough left of him to bring to a Lazarus Pit. I can't think of many Spider-Man Villains that Ra's can take a majority over.

Bane would get destroyed by Spider-Man's Brutes. Bane is at best a 5 Tonner. Venom is 15-75 tonner (depending on version), Carnage is 50+, and Rhino is 80+ just to name off a couple. Any of them would turn Bane into Paste.

Freeze is not "super-effective" against Symbiotes. Their weaknesses are Fire and Sonics...not Ice...and he's far too slow.

Freeze isn't taking Sandman.

Justice League Villains shouldn't count as Batman Villains any more than Avengers Villains should count as Spider-Man's. If you want to go that route you can add Thanos, Dr. Doom, Ultron, Kang, Galactus, The Skrulls, The Kree, etc. to Spider-Man's Villains. It would get way too far out of hand.

#43 Posted by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

All the Talons?

Clayfaces?

Lol Batman villains win.

Except for the part where Morlun solos them all at the same time.

#44 Edited by _ANDY_CAN (268 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by TDK_1997 (15075 posts) - - Show Bio

Threads like this shouldn't be created because they can end in only one way - flame wars.Both sides have some villains that can be either defeated really hard or are even unbeatable so there is no exact winner in this for me.

#46 Edited by PunyParker (12591 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man has more iconic villians than Batman.

Love both of em,though.

#47 Edited by cameron83 (7643 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

@cameron83: So you agreed with other user calling fan of fanboys?

@shawnbaby: Thanks mate,but still exist a problem. Is th teams allowed? League of Assassins,Kobra,Talia's Leviathan and Men-Bat ninjas? I Deathstroke included? Because he's recognized as Batman villain too,the same situation with Onomatopeia.

I believe Spider villains wins,but only because Electro and Morlun

No,just the fact that some people here think that Talons and assassins are anything up against guys like Sandman or Carnage. I mean,even against Phil Urich they would be useless (Phil is the newest Goblin,and lacks experience) since he would be in the air and have a sonic scream.

Hell,dude. Spider-man villains (like Flash villains) are INCREDIBLY powerful when you put them together. It's not just because of Electro and Morlun,most of his other vilains would easily obliterate 99% of these guys within the first few minutes of the fight,for example Scorpion,Carnage,Venom,Toxin,Kraven,Rhino,Electro via speedblitz alone (who would murder most everyone except for Clayface within the first second),Speed demon,etc.

Even If we're going by the more powerful new 52 versions.

But no,I don't really think that everyone who voted for Batman villains was a fanboy,it's just that it's a bit.....odd,I guess...especially considering Spider-man's villains. To tell you the truth,I actually like Batman villains a bit more since I grew up with them (although I love Spider-man's villains,too,and they are actually starting to grow on me just as much as Batman's villains),but even I know enough about them and Spidey's rogues to know that the former doesn't stand a chance against the latter.

#48 Edited by NoahMaximillion (328 posts) - - Show Bio
#49 Edited by NoahMaximillion (328 posts) - - Show Bio
#50 Posted by Perethorn (3744 posts) - - Show Bio

@_andy_can: It only takes some of Green Goblin poison gas.

@deranged_midget: Explain how they can counter the Clayfaces ? Some of them are immune to cold,water,electricity in even in pre-flashpoint stories

@shawnbaby said:
@matchesmalone21 said:

@deranged_midget: Before the fight between users starts...

Mate you have read my comment above? About the Clayfaces? Doctor Phosphorus? Chemicals? Joker venom used in Joker Last Laugh? Also there isn't some much rules around so the richests Batman villains (R'as al ghul,Penguin,Talia al ghul,Black Mas II,Dr. Hurt) can use their resources to hire people too or bring their teams.

The only problem I see is Electro and Morlun. sondra Fuller can copy the most powerful of them and counter attack,Classius Payne can turn his teammates into clayfaces.

A lot of what you are suggesting would require prep and specialised gear.

@shawnbaby said:
@matchesmalone21 said:

@deranged_midget: Before the fight between users starts...

Mate you have read my comment above? About the Clayfaces? Doctor Phosphorus? Chemicals? Joker venom used in Joker Last Laugh? Also there isn't some much rules around so the richests Batman villains (R'as al ghul,Penguin,Talia al ghul,Black Mas II,Dr. Hurt) can use their resources to hire people too or bring their teams.

The only problem I see is Electro and Morlun. sondra Fuller can copy the most powerful of them and counter attack,Classius Payne can turn his teammates into clayfaces.

A lot of what you are suggesting would require prep and specialised gear.

I know,but where the rules? there is no rules in the op. Batman villains is too general,because there is the teams as League of Assasins,Kobra,Club of Villains,Leviathan,Mud Pack

@perethorn said:

Hydro Man can solo---------Mister Freeze

Sandman---------Clayaface (Basil Karlo) he can burn things and turn into glass or Doctor Phosphorus.

Doc Ock,Green Goblin,Lizard,Morbius,Scorpion,Mysterio,Venom,Carnage-------Clayface (Sondra fuller) all Clayfaces abilities and power mimic,Clayface (Cassius Payne) all Clayfaces abilities and similar Venom/Carnage abilities or Doctor Phosphorus radiation heat blast and control.

Green Goblin----------poison ivy

Also most of them can be affeceted by chemicals

LOL.

Well then, if Clayface can beat WW, Rhino can beat Thor: