Batman runs the marvel H2H gauntlet (RD PST)

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#1 Edited by cfrehse (324 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Batman is one of the best fighters in the DC universe. How does he stack up against Marvels best h2h fighters?

Bats has no gadgets or weapons. No prep time or previous knowledge of his opponents.

Batman fights 9 rounds of opponents. He is Healed completely after every round. Read each round for the rules. All rounds morals off. Win by knockout or Death.

Can bats go all the way? Tell me which round he loses at and why.

RD1- Batman vs Black widow and Punisher. No bow or weapons or gadgets pure h2h combat.

RD2- Batman vs Mystique and Hawkeye. No weapons Her current abilities.

RD3- Batman vs Wolverine. No healing factor for wolverine. He still has his claws out. No adamantium poisoning

RD4- Batman vs Taskmaster. No weapons for taskmaster.

RD5- Batman vs Daredevil. He has his batons

RD6- Batman vs Captain America. Cap has no shield

RD7- Batman vs Elektra. She has her daggers

RD8- Batman vs Shang Chi

RD9- Batman vs Iron fist

#2 Posted by nickzambuto (7809 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

List is a bit out of order. Taskmaster should be above DD and Cap, and Elektra way down below Wolverine. As the list stands, he stops at round 4 imo. In terms of difficulty though, I personally believe Daredevil can beat him no gadgets, but some might disagree. But he's definitely not getting past Cap. So he makes it about halfway.

#3 Posted by 12marvel12 (995 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

List is a bit out of order. Taskmaster should be above DD and Cap, and Elektra way down below Wolverine. As the list stands, he stops at round 4 imo. In terms of difficulty though, I personally believe Daredevil can beat him no gadgets, but some might disagree. But he's definitely not getting past Cap. So he makes it about halfway.

Batman doesn't make it past Cap? Batman has mastered over 125 (around that amount) different fighting styles while Cap is a trained soldier with peak human physical attribute. Batman is also peak human physically. Batman without his standard arsenal sure as hell isn't getting past Iron Fist with his abilities (the op doesnt state otherwise)

#4 Posted by Skaddix (3051 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

at a certain point number of styles does not really matter

#5 Posted by renobjc (105 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

I see him making it all the way to Shang chi.

#6 Posted by entropy_aegis (12319 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Beats everyone except maybe Logan and Rand.Those are 50/50.

#7 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Why is Elektra above Taskmaster?He will make it to round 8 maybe even 9.

#8 Posted by cfrehse (324 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@TheTmac: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=502532&pagenumber=4

ignore the mental abilities. since she came back shes way amped up in everyway. Thats why i think shes above him IMO

#9 Posted by Stronger (4659 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Batman clears this IMO.

#10 Posted by Shawnbaby (5858 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@cfrehse said:

Batman is one of the best fighters in the DC universe. How does he stack up against Marvels best h2h fighters?

Bats has no gadgets or weapons. No prep time or previous knowledge of his opponents.

Batman fights 9 rounds of opponents. He is Healed completely after every round. Read each round for the rules. All rounds morals off. Win by knockout or Death.

Can bats go all the way? Tell me which round he loses at and why.

RD1- Batman vs Black widow and Punisher. No bow or weapons or gadgets pure h2h combat.

RD2- Batman vs Mystique and Hawkeye. No weapons Her current abilities.

RD3- Batman vs Wolverine. No healing factor for wolverine. He still has his claws out.

RD4- Batman vs Taskmaster. No weapons for taskmaster.

RD5- Batman vs Daredevil. He has his batons

RD6- Batman vs Captain America. Cap has no shield

RD7- Batman vs Elektra. She has her daggers

RD8- Batman vs Shang Chi

RD9- Batman vs Iron fist

Stops at round 3 when he breaks his hand punching Logan in the head.

#11 Posted by Killer_of_trolls (1848 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Either Taskmaster or Wolverine stomp.

This list is out of order. How is Shang chi so high. Tasky made a joke out of him, and has defeated his series main villain with one hit.

@12marvel12 said:

@nickzambuto said:

Batman doesn't make it past Cap? Batman has mastered over 125 (around that amount) different fighting styles while Cap is a trained soldier with peak human physical attribute. Batman is also peak human physically. Batman without his standard arsenal sure as hell isn't getting past Iron Fist with his abilities (the op doesnt state otherwise)

Steve was never trained in anything, he was giving his "powers" by a government steroid(the Super Soldier serum).

#12 Posted by Shawnbaby (5858 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Killer_of_trolls said:

Either Taskmaster or Wolverine stomp.

This list is out of order. How is Shang chi so high. Tasky made a joke out of him, and has defeated his series main villain with one hit.

@12marvel12 said:

@nickzambuto said:

Batman doesn't make it past Cap? Batman has mastered over 125 (around that amount) different fighting styles while Cap is a trained soldier with peak human physical attribute. Batman is also peak human physically. Batman without his standard arsenal sure as hell isn't getting past Iron Fist with his abilities (the op doesnt state otherwise)

Steve was never trained in anything, he was giving his "powers" by a government steroid(the Super Soldier serum).

Steve has extensive training in martial arts.

#13 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2620 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Batman hasn't mastered 125 martial arts he's trained in them. Being a master of all the forms would be impossible unless you had hundreds of years experience. Bruce depends highly on his gadgets, yes he is still great in h2h but he's not good enough to clear this list. He definitely loses Rds 3,4,5, 6 an 9.

#14 Posted by Killer_of_trolls (1848 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: *sigh*, I just hate it when writers are assigned on stuff they never cared to fully read. After Steve enlisted he was chosen for the SS project afterwards. It doesn't make sense that he managed to learn anything off-panel in one day with no mentioning of it.

I hate retcons, I wish comics were more like manga, where usually one guy is responsible for the whole franchise, and when he chooses to end it, it really does end. That way they can make room for newer characters instead of 100 years of multiple superman runs at the same time. But that's just my shitty opinion.

#15 Posted by laflux (4880 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Stop at Logan

#16 Posted by Shawnbaby (5858 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Killer_of_trolls said:

@Shawnbaby: *sigh*, I just hate it when writers are assigned on stuff they never cared to fully read. After Steve enlisted he was chosen for the SS project afterwards. It doesn't make sense that he managed to learn anything off-panel in one day with no mentioning of it.

I hate retcons, I wish comics were more like manga, where usually one guy is responsible for the whole franchise, and when he chooses to end it, it really does end. That way they can make room for newer characters instead of 100 years of multiple superman runs at the same time. But that's just my shitty opinion.

Steve Rogers has fairly consistently shown that he's one of Marvel's premiere H2H fighters ever since thawing out 60 years ago.

#17 Posted by Killer_of_trolls (1848 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: Don't see how's that relevant. I don't think you know what I'm talking about. He was an excellent fighter right after the soldier serum, and was never shown to train in anything, because that was the whole point. The fact that later writers chose to add training to his resume' through retcon is what I mean.

#18 Posted by ComicKID777 (287 posts) - 5 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

He doesnt get past Daredevil.

#19 Posted by Shawnbaby (5858 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Killer_of_trolls said:

@Shawnbaby: Don't see how's that relevant. I don't think you know what I'm talking about. He was an excellent fighter right after the soldier serum, and was never shown to train in anything, because that was the whole point. The fact that later writers chose to add training to his resume' through retcon is what I mean.

I don't really see what's wrong with giving Captain America some training...It makes a lot more sense than "we injected him with some chemicals and now he can fight". As far as "Retcons" go though...that's pretty benign.

#20 Posted by guttridgeb (4332 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at Wolverine. Wolverine was skilled enough to beat Iron Fist (without using the chi-fist thing admittedly) and he has his claws and adamantium skeleton. The only way Batman could beat him is if the fight continues until Wolverine dies because of his skeleton and lack of healing factor but this is really unlikely if Batman has no prior knowledge.

#21 Posted by Pyrogram (10833 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

stops at wolverine.

#22 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at four, the Taskmaster is a H2H beast, plus he could actually steal Bat's weapon in the middle of a random move.

#23 Posted by TheCowman (441 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

I could entertain an argument that he could make it past a healing factor-less Logan using nerve strikes and such. It's a long shot, but I suppose if Logan got sloppy or overconfident it could happen.

But no way does he make it past Taskmaster without gadgets.

#24 Posted by DocFatalis (1419 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@TheCowman said:

I could entertain an argument that he could make it past a healing factor-less Logan using nerve strikes and such. It's a long shot, but I suppose if Logan got sloppy or overconfident it could happen.

But no way does he make it past Taskmaster without gadgets.

Agreed 100%

#25 Posted by CalebHara (1971 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Batman stops at Iron Fist IMO

#26 Posted by Moonchilde (1357 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Probably stops at Wolverine. Definitely gets stopped by Taskmaster.

#27 Posted by brick909 (127 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

iron fist stomps

#28 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (2907 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at Round 3.

#29 Posted by robertloucksjr (1090 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

I think he loses all but rounds 2 and 8. Shang-Chi is more skilled, but I give Batman the edge because he outweighs Shang-Chi by 50 pounds.

#30 Edited by Strider92 (11235 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Wolverine would beat him. Also Taskmaster should be higher on the list. He beat Elektra with his eyes closed and his feats show he should be at least on par with Captain America.

#31 Posted by nick_hero22 (5055 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

I don't believe that he could pass Round 3 due to Wolverine enhanced physical attributes and skill, but when I think about it Wolverine without a healing factor would die of adamantium poison. I believe the rules need to be cleared up a little better.

#32 Posted by nickzambuto (7809 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@12marvel12 said:

@nickzambuto said:

List is a bit out of order. Taskmaster should be above DD and Cap, and Elektra way down below Wolverine. As the list stands, he stops at round 4 imo. In terms of difficulty though, I personally believe Daredevil can beat him no gadgets, but some might disagree. But he's definitely not getting past Cap. So he makes it about halfway.

Batman doesn't make it past Cap? Batman has mastered over 125 (around that amount) different fighting styles while Cap is a trained soldier with peak human physical attribute. Batman is also peak human physically. Batman without his standard arsenal sure as hell isn't getting past Iron Fist with his abilities (the op doesnt state otherwise)

Captain America has also mastered hundreds of styles. He's considered one of the greatest martial artists in the entire Marvel U, and has tested his merits against guys like Spider-Man and Wolverine through sheer martial mastery alone.

Even when depowered and put into the body of a 90 pound cancer patient, Cap can defeat two Super Soldiers through simple fighting skill and combat knowledge.

I doubt he's as good a martial artist as Batman, but Cap's stats are more around Deathstroke level. And we all know what Slade did to Batman.

#33 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Apart from this slightly out-of-order gauntlet, Batman would loose to Wolverine, Taskmaster, Shang Chi and Iron Fist. He should be able to clear everyone else.

Vouile

#34 Posted by NyghtMare (404 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

How is he gonna beat Wolverine when Wolverine still has adamantium skeleton? He'll break his hand hitting Wolverine unless he leads with pressure points, which I seriously doubt he would.

As the list stands, he stops at 3. If Wolverine doesn't have his skele, he could potentially win, but then he stops at 4. Tasky could take Batman if he isn't jobbing like a champ.

#35 Posted by Batman1234 (55 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Batman wins all rounds.

#36 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2620 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Batman1234. I'm shocked you picked Bats all rds. Lmfao

#37 Posted by DCsuperman0007 (515 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

he stops at 9.

#38 Edited by god_spawn (30421 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Like hell he clears this. He doesn't even make it past round 3. He can barely beat Logan in h2h with no powers, and even without his healing they think he can beat him with ady and his claws out with no morals? And just let go of the real fact that without healing Logan would die due to ady poisoning or bleed out with his claws. Don't see why you just can't pretend he has his claws, is not bleeding and just doesn't heal and go from there.

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#39 Edited by laflux (4880 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Batman1234 said:

Batman wins all rounds.

No

#40 Edited by Malonius (820 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

No morals Batman would beat this Wolverine. Without a healing factor enhancing his stamina the weight of the adamantium would slow Logan down considerably (aside from the adamantium poisoning and bleeding out from the claws). Batman stops at Taskmaster, though.

Taskmaster and Iron Fist are the only two I'm sure would beat Bruce, but I don't know the extent of Elektra's powers.

#41 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2273 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at wolverine...this guy took punches from WWHULK,,batman can't compete,,not to mention with out gadgets he isn't beating taskmaster captain America or daredevil

#42 Posted by Reignmaker (1374 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Wolverine gets his ass kicked without his healing factor. Nothing else matters.

#43 Posted by Reignmaker (1374 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

Batman stops at Iron Fist IMO

Yep.

#44 Posted by robertloucksjr (1090 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Malonius said:

No morals Batman would beat this Wolverine. Without a healing factor enhancing his stamina the weight of the adamantium would slow Logan down considerably (aside from the adamantium poisoning and bleeding out from the claws). Batman stops at Taskmaster, though.

Taskmaster and Iron Fist are the only two I'm sure would beat Bruce, but I don't know the extent of Elektra's powers.

Wouldn't a punch from Wolverine shatter Batman's face or ribs though? He has like natural brass knuckles for fists and strength wise he outclasses Bruce and speed wise he should be at least equal.

#45 Posted by robertloucksjr (1090 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

How does he get past Black Widow and the Punisher? Two skilled opponents who are his close to his physical equal. Widow should have better stamina thanks to Red Room SSS and almost equal strength despite the size differential.

#46 Posted by Malonius (820 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr said:

@Malonius said:

No morals Batman would beat this Wolverine. Without a healing factor enhancing his stamina the weight of the adamantium would slow Logan down considerably (aside from the adamantium poisoning and bleeding out from the claws). Batman stops at Taskmaster, though.

Taskmaster and Iron Fist are the only two I'm sure would beat Bruce, but I don't know the extent of Elektra's powers.

Wouldn't a punch from Wolverine shatter Batman's face or ribs though? He has like natural brass knuckles for fists and strength wise he outclasses Bruce and speed wise he should be at least equal.

That'd be really hard to reasonably figure. "How fast is Batman?" vs. "How fast is Wolverine?" How much would Wolverine be slowed down over time as he gets worn out having to carry the weight of his adamantium without his healing factor? I would say that Wolverine is not that much faster than Batman to start with so any slow down would put him at a disadvantage. Wolverine is also used to tanking damage so he's going to have to make a lot of adjustments against a brutally efficient morals off Batman.

#47 Posted by Alice_Summers (1209 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

He passes through wolverine because he dies of metal poisoning.

#48 Posted by robertloucksjr (1090 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Malonius said:

@robertloucksjr said:

@Malonius said:

No morals Batman would beat this Wolverine. Without a healing factor enhancing his stamina the weight of the adamantium would slow Logan down considerably (aside from the adamantium poisoning and bleeding out from the claws). Batman stops at Taskmaster, though.

Taskmaster and Iron Fist are the only two I'm sure would beat Bruce, but I don't know the extent of Elektra's powers.

Wouldn't a punch from Wolverine shatter Batman's face or ribs though? He has like natural brass knuckles for fists and strength wise he outclasses Bruce and speed wise he should be at least equal.

That'd be really hard to reasonably figure. "How fast is Batman?" vs. "How fast is Wolverine?" How much would Wolverine be slowed down over time as he gets worn out having to carry the weight of his adamantium without his healing factor? I would say that Wolverine is not that much faster than Batman to start with so any slow down would put him at a disadvantage. Wolverine is also used to tanking damage so he's going to have to make a lot of adjustments against a brutally efficient morals off Batman.

Yeah, but Wolverine can put down Batman with a lot less hits.

#49 Edited by Truthbringer3246 (6 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@Bane_of_sith said:

Stops at wolverine...this guy took punches from WWHULK,,batman can't compete,,not to mention with out gadgets he isn't beating taskmaster captain America or daredevil

He won't beat a non jobbing Taskmaster. He will beat Cap through use of pressure points and superior fighting skills. He'd steamroll Daredevil though, hit him in the forehead, Daredevils entire nervous system would collapse. In fact if Batman was blood lusted he'd simply snap Matt's neck and end it quickly.

@ComicKID777 said:

He doesnt get past Daredevil.

In hand to hand Bruce would kill Matt, superior in almost every way, much better feats, much more dangerous rogue gallery.

Bruce is also one of the few fighters that has a great extensive knowledge of nerve strikes and pressure points than Matt does. He knows how to disable people in places Matt would never think of because he's either not intelligent enough or not skilled enough.

#50 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

Beats everyone except maybe Logan and Rand.Those are 50/50.

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