Pre Flashpoint Batman
Batman is in character, no bloodlust for any character. Batman heals after each round.
Has his Utility Belt
Win by Knock Out or Death
Pre Flashpoint Batman
Batman is in character, no bloodlust for any character. Batman heals after each round.
Has his Utility Belt
Win by Knock Out or Death
Without prep 6
Stops at 6.
Don't know about Ryu so Bruce stops at Logan
Don't know much about Ryu, but I do the Street Fighters are supposed to be street level+. If he doesn't stop there, Wolverine obliterates him.
Don't know much about Ryu, but I do the Street Fighters are supposed to be street level+. If he doesn't stop there, Wolverine obliterates him.
Why is that?
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@iragexcudder: Why does Wolverine obliterate Batman?
@iragexcudder: Why does Wolverine obliterate Batman?
Yeah, its plausible that Batman can KO Wolverine. It can go either way IMO
@iragexcudder: Why does Wolverine obliterate Batman?
Yeah, its plausible that Batman can KO Wolverine. It can go either way IMO
Bruce has no way to do anything other than to get James mad before he kills him shortly into a fight. He's not KOing James anytime soon, and it's not going either way without some form of plot helping Batman.
Don't know much about Ryu, but I do the Street Fighters are supposed to be street level+. If he doesn't stop there, Wolverine obliterates him.
Why is that?
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Wolverine is faster and stronger by a whole lot, not to mention his healing factor and arguably superior fighting skills. With no prep time Batman would be crushed in an exchange of fisticuffs and I doubt his trinkets and doo-whatsits are going to disable Logan for long.
I hate this though. I find Wolverine to be a terrifically dull character and adore Batman, but Logan takes this easy IMEO.
@iragexcudder: Why does Wolverine obliterate Batman?
Yeah, its plausible that Batman can KO Wolverine. It can go either way IMO
Bruce has no way to do anything other than to get James mad before he kills him shortly into a fight. He's not KOing James anytime soon, and it's not going either way without some form of plot helping Batman.
Well its straight to immediate KO or Death.. Im positive that Batmans striking power could knock Wolverine at the least dazed right?
Don't know if we're using comic Ryu, or game. I don't know enough about comic Ryu, so no comment. From what I do know, he could potentially stop at Ryu. If not, he does at Wolverine. Without some expensive prep and some luck I don't see Bats taking him.
@iragexcudder: No, Bruce is laughably lacking in the blunt force trauma to even faze Wolverine.
I'd say he gets to Wolverine.
I'm not a Moon Knight guy though, and Ryu is known to me as a video game dude, not via the animation or comics.
Wolverine is faster and stronger by a whole lot, not to mention his healing factor and arguably superior fighting skills. With no prep time Batman would be crushed in an exchange of fisticuffs and I doubt his trinkets and doo-whatsits are going to disable Logan for long.
I hate this though. I find Wolverine to be a terrifically dull character and adore Batman, but Logan takes this easy IMEO.
Wrong Batman has better speed feats than Logan. And he's a better fighter. Batman's gear alone would be a match for Logan, not enough to KO him, but enough to stall or hurt him.
@patrat18: Bruce and James have relatively similar speed feats.
@iragexcudder: No, Bruce is laughably lacking in the blunt force trauma to even faze Wolverine.
Idk about all that.
Wolverine can dish a lot, theres no doubt about it.
But, Cap has dazed him before, something im sure Batman can accomplish. Even though Wolverine did not see it coming, he was still dazed.
Yeah he had help from Pym to get him out of the aircraft, but he still stunned him.
I think it can go either way, especially when its to knockout.
@iragexcudder: Shield bashes from Captain America have shattered parts of Iron Man's Extremis suit(Which tanked nukes). Bruce's striking force is in no way similar to that.
@patrat18: Bruce and James have relatively similar speed feats.
EH idk about that. I've been reading up on Bruce's speed feats, and man they are pretty crazy, for a human. At first i thought so too, until i saw a couple of his pre 52 feats.
@patrat18: He is pretty fast for a human(Arguably the fast non enhanced human in comics), but James is a meta himself and has some impressive speed showings under his belt.
@patrat18: He is pretty fast for a human(Arguably the fast non enhanced human in comics), but James is a meta himself and has some impressive speed showings under his belt.
Do you want to compare feats :)
@iragexcudder: Shield bashes from Captain America have shattered parts of Iron Man's Extremis suit(Which tanked nukes). Bruce's striking force is in no way similar to that.
Agreed, but Batman still kicks with some serious power. Could shake Wolvies brain around a bit
@patrat18: What do you think are Batman's best speed feats?
@patrat18: What do you think are Batman's best speed feats?
@patrat18: Oh wow, that is insane. I do think that James has a similar, if not better reaction feat in being able to actually out run a bullet after it's been fired(Sorry about the horrible art).
Not sure if Bruce has ever pulled off anything similar with bullets.
@wolverine08: WTF what kind of gun was that? Here
@patrat18: Lol, yeah, the art in the comic was fairly terrible so I can see the confusion around it. The type of gun was a pistol. In regards to Batman dodging Deadshot, it is an impressive feat in dodging a bullet after it's been fired, but I do think literally outrunning a bullet is a bit superior considering the insane burst of speed required to do so.
With Batman evading lightning, Wolverine was the only New Avenger to evade Ragnorak Thor's lightning.
Fairly similar speed feats from the two from what I have seen so far.
@patrat18: Lol, yeah, the art in the comic was fairly terrible so I can see the confusion around it. The type of gun was a pistol. In regards to Batman dodging Deadshot, it is an impressive feat in dodging a bullet after it's been fired, but I do think literally outrunning a bullet is a bit superior considering the insane burst of speed required to do so.
With Batman evading lightning, Wolverine was the only New Avenger to evade Ragnorak Thor's lightning.
Fairly similar speed feats from the two from what I have seen so far.
It seemed like Wolverine attacked Thor before he used the lightning. Batman dodged the lightning after it struck.
@patrat18: Looking back at the scans, he did actually dodge the lightning in mid air... Pretty impressive. In regards to Batman outdoing speedsters like Impulse and Kid Flash, I am somewhat reserved about using feats of street levelers tagging speedsters as big time speed feats. For one, Kid Flash and Impulse are relatively inexperienced speedsters, and all the Flashes slow themselves and their perceptions down to communicate with others and to avoid damaging their environment, making them easier to tag. Wolverine himself has even tagged the speedster Speed Demon whom moves faster than the speed of sound and noted that all you needed to do to tag speedsters is to predict them.
I do agree that it is a fairly impressive feat on Batman's part nonetheless.
Wolverine has no problem with killing Batman so Batman dies...Moonknight with no powers is very low and should not be ranked above The Punisher IMO.....
@wolverine08: @patrat18: Continue with the debating.Seeing the comparisons between them are entertaining :D
@wolverine08: @patrat18: Continue with the debating.Seeing the comparisons between them are entertaining :D
Haha, glad you're entertained!
@wolverine08: Idk about that lightning scan, as it seemed that he jumped at Thor before he called the lightning down. While i would agree with that speedster comment, it doesn't relate to the first scan of Kid Flash attacking Batman. He was not having a conversation, he was attacking. The last scan is also pretty damn impressive, givin the fact that Jay searched the entire building and couldn't find Bruce, when he was a couple of feet next to him a couple of seconds ago. Not trying to use abc logic here but Marvel speedsters are nowhere near Dc's speedsters. All Flashes are ftl, Sd not so much. I also have a scan of him tagging another speedster Hot Shot.
@patrat18: Fair enough. I think Wolverine and Batman's speed is fairly similar, but you have done a pretty great job of showcasing Batman's speed. Even got some new speed feats I've never seen.
This about sums it up all though I would definitely give batman the edge over deadshot in character. Deadshot pulls his shots way too much too beat Bruce. Morals off for both would be close though.
@jashro44: Who would you put your money between Deadshot and Batman morals off?
Batman defeated a whole army of Wolverines. Have you guys forgotten the Court of Owls? I think Bruce will make it all the way down the list.
@patrat18: Fair enough. I think Wolverine and Batman's speed is fairly similar, but you have done a pretty great job of showcasing Batman's speed. Even got some new speed feats I've never seen.
You too man. That bullet scan was insane.
Batman defeated a whole army of Wolverines. Have you guys forgotten the Court of Owls? I think Bruce will make it all the way down the list.
You're kidding right?
@jashro44: Who would you put your money between Deadshot and Batman morals off?
I think Bruce after an extremely difficult fight. Deadshot does have the reflexes and accuracy to tag speedsters all though Bruce has shown speedster tagging reflexes as well. He isn't really as accurate as deadshot but he is still a very good shot. However I feel what Bruce lacks in accuracy he makes up for with his agility. He is much better at avoidance then deadshot (even though deadshot is some what underrated in his avoidance capabilities). I think Bruce can take him out. A case for deadshot with no morals can be made though.
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