@buttersdaman000 said:
Bane destroyed him in their first fight, before he miraculously ...weirdly...lost in their second..
Baleman won the second time around simply because he exploited Bane's weakspot
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Anyway, lets run through this again -
All three have very high implied training
Baleman was trained by someone who's implied to be one of the best martial artists around, and he manages to get to the stage where he can take down multiple of his fellow pupils on his own.
The Winchesters are implied to be child prodigies, they were given H2H training from childhood (child Sam is shown to be able to take down bigger kids than him in one flashback), and they were trained by experienced hunters. Hunters themselves go through a survival of the fittest trial, as living for any amount of time in their line of work implies high skill and competence.
All three have very mixed, and contradictory actual showings.
Baleman can go from skillfully blocking and kicking multiple Ninja's in one instance, to running forward throwing haymakers in the next. Sometimes he can take on large groups of thugs, whilst others he might struggle with three or four.
The Winchesters similarly fluctuate between being skilled fighters, using punches, blocks, kicks, throws, grabs etc (you can see some of this in Sam's fight against the Dean doppelganger in season 1) to brainless brawlers who run in and get thrown about the place.
From the perspective of genetics, Sam and Dean are both implied, and shown to be better
Baleman has never been implied to be anything but a normal human who has excelled himself.
The Winchesters are implied to be the product of generations of selective breeding carried out by angels to create the perfect hosts for Lucifer and Michael. Virtually no humans on earth have bodies which can contain these two beings for any amount of time, and even those few who can contain them usually start to fall apart after a matter of months, unlike Sam.
The Winchesters have been shown to be hardier than Baleman. On multiple occasions they have been punched through the air by opponents with clear above-human stats. Sam was punched by Jake, Dean hit by vampire Gordon Walker (who was shown to be able to punch straight through someone in one scene), Sam has also been shown to be struck in the head, hard, over and over by blunt objects in many scenes such as Season 6, Episode 9, Dean has been punched in the face over and over by a bloodlusted, demon-amped Sam on multiple occasions, such as Season 4 Episode 14, where a Siren affected their minds.
The Winchester have also shown resilience to a variety of supernatural affects and poisons, they last longer than anyone else whilst in the presence of the demon Pestilence for instance, they also tend to stay awake for longer than other humans when drugged etc.
From the perspective of Stamina, Sam and Dean are shown to be better
Baleman was a complete physical wreck after 1 or 2 years of fighting ordinary humans.
The Winchesters have been fighting monsters for significantly longer than that.
Stealth and Awareness
Baleman has been shown to be very good at stealth, he fooled his teacher into picking the wrong student during training, and managed to make short work of a bunch of crooks in the dock area in BB, he also managed to get into Gotham when it was under strict lock-down during The Dark Knight Rises, and painted a big Bat picture in gasoline for a few hours on a wall right in front of his enemies without them noticing him. He also has numerous examples of trolling Commissioner Gordon.
I'm sorry, but Dean surviving for an entire year in a forest full of monsters has to trump Baleman's feats, this would take ludicrous skills. Outside of that the brothers have a bunch of the usual stealth feats against SWAT and police and such.
In closing, there is no reason to assume that Baleman is better at H2H, or can stealth or creep up on either of these two, let alone both at once, and on top of that they have Desert Eagles with them and good aim.
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