@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek:
Hmm...I would think that Batman could constantly pull his vanishing act on Ollie when he loses sight of Batman (which will be a lot when Bruce ducks for cover/when Queen takes down lamp-posts). I know both are adept in fighting in darkness, but I think The Dark Knight has more emphasis on it.
Bruce utilizes it more when he has the drop on random thugs but when has ever really utilized it on an opponent he deemed worthy? Against Joker, he attacked him head on multiple times and he attacked Bane(despite being tossed in a corner with Bane countering his tactics). Oliver seems to be adept in fighting in the darkness, without any of the tech that Bruce seems to utilize. I still can't see Bruce taking any advantage in that regard.
I think that Batman would have a slight edge in physical strength because he did manage to break Bane's mask, which seemed extremely tough. Also, that was Batman when he wasn't in his prime. I know Ollie thinks fast and counters a lot, but he is still so cocky and makes him slip up so much. He's been hurt to the point where his friends have had to rescue him numerous times because he failed to analyze his surroundings.
Have to agree on the Scarecrow/Joker bit, but he has learned greatly from those experiences, whereas Ollie consistently continues to make mistakes.
Huh? I don't see how breaking Bane's mask makes a difference in physical strength. Bruce only ever targeted it because of the fact that the doctor stated that it's his weak point. Therefore, Bruce aimed for the mask this time around knowing it would cause him incredible pain. All it required was a simple slash across the tubes. But yes, I'd have to agree with Bruce not being in his prime in the first half of the film, but he seemed to recover even better than before when he returned to Gotham to face Bane again.
Once again my friend, I fail to see where Oliver has been making such costly mistakes. The only time he's been severely overcome was in his civilian guise against the Count when he injected Vertigo into him and against the Dark Archer. In every other situation, Oliver recovered quickly enough to make a sufficient encounter or escape.
I know that Batman seldom uses his gadgetry in the films, but I was inferring that Bruce would use them a lot more since he is bloodlusted. Bruce would also use lethal force in this scenario. While I know Arrow would land a hit on Batman if he saw an exposed part, but that is near impossible in the dark, where his armor blends in. IIRC, Talia had to dig her knife in at an angle behind/around the heavy armor so that the blade would penetrate him. Oliver wouldn't be able to differentiate the armor and exposed parts in pitch black, which will cause the illusion that the entire suit is armor. However, there is still a chance a lucky hit will the do the deed in for The Dark Knight.
Quite the opposite actually. Bloodlusted infers that the combatant loses any morals or normal mental state and just goes berserk, fighting completely out of character. Bruce's armour is better in protecting blunt damage but it's near useless against piercing damage as we've seen throughout the past two films. Again, Oliver has near perfect aim and is always fighting at night in the darkness, so while Bruce may be able to duck out of sight for a moment of time, it won't benefit him the entire fight. After all, Oliver was trading shots against Deadshot from across rooftops almost instantaneously after being shot at.
As for Talia's knife, she pierced his armour without effort. A fully strung bow coupled with Oliver's aim is going to do a significant more amount of damage.
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