Anything goes
Weapons free
Takes place in Gotham at midnight
Batman Black Panther DareDevil, VS Drakon Deathstroke Lady Shiva
"Hmmm... This is a hard one, since Deathstroke and Shiva are on the team...."Yeah and its anything goes also
I think Team 2 would win in pure hand to hand
Batman is the only person on team 1 that can fight shiva in hand to hand
while black panther and dd are very good they wont win in a hand to hand fight with shiva
so thats why i put anything goes so DD can use the billy club
Batman is the only person on team 1 that can fight shiva in hand to handI think that if Batman could take Shiva, so could Panther.
"HalJordan1986x said:I think Panther can win overall but not in a hand to hand fight solelyBatman is the only person on team 1 that can fight shiva in hand to handI think that if Batman could take Shiva, so could Panther."
"Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time."Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
BP is pretty damn tough....like I said I would say he is at least equal to them both.
"Not only that but his standard equipment owns Batman's.Vance Astro said:
"HalJordan1986x said:"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
""
BP is pretty damn tough....like I said I would say he is at least equal to them both.
"I think itd break down with BP vs Deathstroke....BP winsWhat make you think Black Panther can beat Deathstroke..This is a person who embarrassed Superman with his agility,took down 2 different Lantern and bested the Justice League.
Daredevil vs. Drakon....havent decided yet
Batman vs. Shiva..... cant decide yet either"
"HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment
"well ill agree to disagree...but also I feel like there is a big problem here....no one has mentioned Drakon...he is just as good as the other two"That is true Bats is the only one that can take Drakon in a hand to hand fight and Drakon still has the majority
In a hand to hand fight anyone on team 2 would embarrass DD and BP
"Vance Astro said:You obviously never read Black Panther."HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment"
"HalJordan1986x said:Actually BP is one of my favorite Marvel characters"Vance Astro said:You obviously never read Black Panther.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment"
Hes an excellent hand to hand fighter but hes below Bats Shiva Drakon and Slade
With standard equipment he can probably beat Shiva or DD
Maybe Drakon thats debatable
But isnt going to beat Bats or Slade
"Vance Astro said:Your just making statements..none of this has any fact behind it."HalJordan1986x said:Actually BP is one of my favorite Marvel characters"Vance Astro said:You obviously never read Black Panther.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment"
Hes an excellent hand to hand fighter but hes below Bats Shiva Drakon and Slade
With standard equipment he can probably beat Shiva or DD
Maybe Drakon thats debatable
But isnt going to beat Bats or Slade"
"HalJordan1986x said:As I stated in the other topic Bats simply has more impressive feats"Vance Astro said:Your just making statements..none of this has any fact behind it.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually BP is one of my favorite Marvel characters"Vance Astro said:You obviously never read Black Panther.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment"
Hes an excellent hand to hand fighter but hes below Bats Shiva Drakon and Slade
With standard equipment he can probably beat Shiva or DD
Maybe Drakon thats debatable
But isnt going to beat Bats or Slade"
defeating Aqua Man in hand to hand and holding his own against a possessed WW
Their is simply nothing BP can do
"Vance Astro said:Those aren't impressive.Black Panther owned Iron Man twice without PIS and you talking about Aquaman who isn't a good fighter and Wonder Woman which was obviously bad writing or something was seriously wrong with her."HalJordan1986x said:As I stated in the other topic Bats simply has more impressive feats"Vance Astro said:Your just making statements..none of this has any fact behind it.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually BP is one of my favorite Marvel characters"Vance Astro said:You obviously never read Black Panther.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment"
Hes an excellent hand to hand fighter but hes below Bats Shiva Drakon and Slade
With standard equipment he can probably beat Shiva or DD
Maybe Drakon thats debatable
But isnt going to beat Bats or Slade"
defeating Aqua Man in hand to hand and holding his own against a possessed WW
Their is simply nothing BP can do"
"HalJordan1986x said:No she was just possessed"Vance Astro said:Those aren't impressive.Black Panther owned Iron Man twice without PIS and you talking about Aquaman who isn't a good fighter and Wonder Woman which was obviously bad writing or something was seriously wrong with her.""HalJordan1986x said:As I stated in the other topic Bats simply has more impressive feats"Vance Astro said:Your just making statements..none of this has any fact behind it.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually BP is one of my favorite Marvel characters"Vance Astro said:You obviously never read Black Panther.""HalJordan1986x said:Actually in hand to hand either bruce or shiva would humilate black panther"Lunacyde said:BS....Black Panther would beat the f#ck outta Batman and Shiva..probably at the same time.""Daredevil and BP are just as good martial artists as Batman in my opinion."They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva
"
and black panther wouldnt be able to beat bats even with his standard equipment"
Hes an excellent hand to hand fighter but hes below Bats Shiva Drakon and Slade
With standard equipment he can probably beat Shiva or DD
Maybe Drakon thats debatable
But isnt going to beat Bats or Slade"
defeating Aqua Man in hand to hand and holding his own against a possessed WW
Their is simply nothing BP can do"
Bats has beaten her and Solomon Grundy with pressure points
Aqua Man is an excellent hand to hand fighter I don't know where you got that load of crap from saying he isn't
WW and Grundy>>>Iron Man
Black Panther putting SS in an armbar was bad writing
Just like SS getting cut by wolverines claws
Hal...if your going to use things that are obviously bad writing..I don't see the point in even bothering to respond to you.
"Hal...if your going to use things that are obviously bad writing..I don't see the point in even bothering to respond to you."As soon as you lose a debate you blame it on bad writing
I can say the exact same thing for BP feats like putting surfer in an armbar
BP is going to lose this fight
In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against Bats
BP gets floored in a hand to hand fight
and BP loses with standard equipment
stop being such a fanboy i like BP and even i know he loses this fight
"Vance Astro said:How can I lose a debate when we are saying the same team wins?"Hal...if your going to use things that are obviously bad writing..I don't see the point in even bothering to respond to you."As soon as you lose a debate you blame it on bad writing
I can say the exact same thing for BP feats like putting surfer in an armbar
BP is going to lose this fight
In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against Bats
BP gets floored in a hand to hand fight
and BP loses with standard equipment
stop being such a fanboy i like BP and even i know he loses this fight"
"HalJordan1986x said:Simply put Bats has superior feats"Vance Astro said:How can I lose a debate when we are saying the same team wins?"Hal...if your going to use things that are obviously bad writing..I don't see the point in even bothering to respond to you."As soon as you lose a debate you blame it on bad writing
I can say the exact same thing for BP feats like putting surfer in an armbar
BP is going to lose this fight
In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against Bats
BP gets floored in a hand to hand fight
and BP loses with standard equipment
stop being such a fanboy i like BP and even i know he loses this fight"I'm not a Black Panther fanboy...You are sitting here telling me Black Panther loses because Batman has beaten Wonder Woman..You think that is good writing? You think Batman can beat some who have him floating in space before he even knew he moved? You think it's good writing that Batman stands a chance against someone who helped pull a planet and took hits from Superman? C'mon with tha bullsh#t."
Bats has even survived in space unaided for 24 seconds before MM helped him
Bats could have gone longer if he wanted to
He out classes BP in speed, strenght, durability, and skill by far
The only threat BP possesses are his vibranium based weapon like his blade
But bats has already taken on beings with superior weaponry
their is nothing BP can do
I gotta disagree with whats being said about Black Panther. He's a master of all forms of Hand to Hand combat. There's no proof Batman is any faster, stronger, or more durable. In fact BP's Vibranium suit is a guarantee that he's more durable.
"Vance Astro said:Simply put your making up stuff and using Bat writing and I'm done.You think all DC's high tiers have better feats than Marvel's.Didn't we go through this sh#t with Drakon and DD yesterday.And you gave me a bunch of mediocre as feats compared to DD who has beaten people who rival Thor,who has beaten countless superhumans and bent and broke steel,who has beaten a guy who has his weakness built into his hand."HalJordan1986x said:Simply put Bats has superior feats"Vance Astro said:How can I lose a debate when we are saying the same team wins?"Hal...if your going to use things that are obviously bad writing..I don't see the point in even bothering to respond to you."As soon as you lose a debate you blame it on bad writing
I can say the exact same thing for BP feats like putting surfer in an armbar
BP is going to lose this fight
In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against Bats
BP gets floored in a hand to hand fight
and BP loses with standard equipment
stop being such a fanboy i like BP and even i know he loses this fight"I'm not a Black Panther fanboy...You are sitting here telling me Black Panther loses because Batman has beaten Wonder Woman..You think that is good writing? You think Batman can beat some who have him floating in space before he even knew he moved? You think it's good writing that Batman stands a chance against someone who helped pull a planet and took hits from Superman? C'mon with tha bullsh#t."
Bats has even survived in space unaided for 24 seconds before MM helped him
Bats could have gone longer if he wanted to
He out classes BP in speed, strenght, durability, and skill by far
The only threat BP possesses are his vibranium based weapon like his blade
But bats has already taken on beings with superior weaponry
their is nothing BP can do
"
"HalJordan1986x said:No they arent"They are good but not the caliber of Bats of Shiva"Yes, they are."
Hand to hand either DD or BP would get demolished
In fact i had to give them their powers to keep this from being a total stomp on team 2 part
"........................"The feats are their to prove it
DD or BP could probably beat Shiva and possibly Drakon with all powers
But strictly hand to hand BP and DD get housed
Especially DD
"I gotta disagree with whats being said about Black Panther. He's a master of all forms of Hand to Hand combat. There's no proof Batman is any faster, stronger, or more durable. In fact BP's Vibranium suit is a guarantee that he's more durable."Bats has blitzed Kyle Rayner and stole his ring from him
He is faster then BP is
"Vance Astro said:......................."........................"The feats are their to prove it
DD or BP could probably beat Shiva and possibly Drakon with all powers
But strictly hand to hand BP and DD get housed
Especially DD"
"BP got knocked out of a window by Red Skull and even had trouble fighting him"BP had a brain aneurysm at the time, gained after the battle against Iron Fist. It effected his performance.
HalJordan1986x said:
"He out classes BP in speed, strenght, durability, and skill by far
The only threat BP possesses are his vibranium based weapon like his blade
But bats has already taken on beings with superior weaponry
their is nothing BP can do
"
BP is an enhanced human being. How does Batman outclass him? He's either below BP or equal. And, trust me. BP has more on his plate than you think.
HalJordan1986x said:
In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against BatsNo, he isn't.
"No they arentBefore BP ate the heart-shaped herb, he defeated the last Black Panther, who was a master martial artist who was enhanced by the herb already. And, he beat him with sheer martial arts skill. You can take away his powers if you want. He's still a match for them.
Hand to hand either DD or BP would get demolished
In fact i had to give them their powers to keep this from being a total stomp on team 2 part"
HalJordan1986x said:
"Bats has blitzed Kyle Rayner and stole his ring from himHow fast was Batman moving to say he actually blitzed him? And, he's not faster than BP.
He is faster then BP is"
"HalJordan1986x said:Now he isnt"BP got knocked out of a window by Red Skull and even had trouble fighting him"BP had a brain aneurysm at the time, gained after the battle against Iron Fist. It effected his performance.
HalJordan1986x said:"He out classes BP in speed, strenght, durability, and skill by far
The only threat BP possesses are his vibranium based weapon like his blade
But bats has already taken on beings with superior weaponry
their is nothing BP can do
"
BP is an enhanced human being. How does Batman outclass him? He's either below BP or equal. And, trust me. BP has more on his plate than you think.
HalJordan1986x said:In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against BatsNo, he isn't.
"
Bats is faster then BP feats prove it
Bats has taken down super powered beings
"Now he isntWhat feats in particular? And, BP has beaten superpowered beings, too. Such as Mephisto.
Bats is faster then BP feats prove it
Bats has taken down super powered beings
"
"HalJordan1986x said:Yes and Drakon would demolish DD in a hand to hand fight we went over this yesterday"Vance Astro said:Simply put your making up stuff and using Bat writing and I'm done.You think all DC's high tiers have better feats than Marvel's.Didn't we go through this sh#t with Drakon and DD yesterday.And you gave me a bunch of mediocre as feats compared to DD who has beaten people who rival Thor,who has beaten countless superhumans and bent and broke steel,who has beaten a guy who has his weakness built into his hand."HalJordan1986x said:Simply put Bats has superior feats"Vance Astro said:How can I lose a debate when we are saying the same team wins?"Hal...if your going to use things that are obviously bad writing..I don't see the point in even bothering to respond to you."As soon as you lose a debate you blame it on bad writing
I can say the exact same thing for BP feats like putting surfer in an armbar
BP is going to lose this fight
In fact your about the only person ive ever met whos defending BP against Bats
BP gets floored in a hand to hand fight
and BP loses with standard equipment
stop being such a fanboy i like BP and even i know he loses this fight"I'm not a Black Panther fanboy...You are sitting here telling me Black Panther loses because Batman has beaten Wonder Woman..You think that is good writing? You think Batman can beat some who have him floating in space before he even knew he moved? You think it's good writing that Batman stands a chance against someone who helped pull a planet and took hits from Superman? C'mon with tha bullsh#t."
Bats has even survived in space unaided for 24 seconds before MM helped him
Bats could have gone longer if he wanted to
He out classes BP in speed, strenght, durability, and skill by far
The only threat BP possesses are his vibranium based weapon like his blade
But bats has already taken on beings with superior weaponry
their is nothing BP can do
"The fact that you are still trying to make a case for that ridiculous ass Wonder Woman fight just proves your not going to bother and use logic here.Your also saying Batman outclasses BP which is complete fictionl...."
"HalJordan1986x said:Blitzing Kyle Rayner and stealing his ring"Now he isntWhat feats in particular? And, BP has beaten superpowered beings, too. Such as Mephisto."
Bats is faster then BP feats prove it
Bats has taken down super powered beings
"
Beating WW and Grundy with preassure points
Beating a possessed WW
Beating Aqua Man in a hand to hand fight
Their is really no way for BP to win this
Yes we did go over this yesterday and I proved DD's feats were above Drakon's.Beating Lady Shiva and Connor Hawke is nowhere near the level of beat Spider-Man,Sabretooth,or Absorbing Man.You can keep pretending Drakon is hot sh#t in a wine class...but I know and you know he's not on DD's level.
"Yes we did go over this yesterday and I proved DD's feats were above Drakon's.Beating Lady Shiva and Connor Hawke is nowhere near the level of beat Spider-Man,Sabretooth,or Absorbing Man.You can keep pretending Drakon is hot sh#t in a wine class...but I know and you know he's not on DD's level."Shiva and Connor are superior hand to hand fighters then Spidey, Victor and Absorbing man combined
"Vance Astro said:So what....Neither of them could beat Spidey,Sabretooth,or Absorbing Man and if you say they can well you would be just lying to yourself because nobody else is buying that dumb sh#t."Yes we did go over this yesterday and I proved DD's feats were above Drakon's.Beating Lady Shiva and Connor Hawke is nowhere near the level of beat Spider-Man,Sabretooth,or Absorbing Man.You can keep pretending Drakon is hot sh#t in a wine class...but I know and you know he's not on DD's level."Shiva and Connor are superior hand to hand fighters then Spidey, Victor and Absorbing man combined
"
"HalJordan1986x said:Connor could probably beat Victor unless this is Victor right before Logan lobbed his head off with the Murasama"Vance Astro said:So what....Neither of them could beat Spidey,Sabretooth,or Absorbing Man and if you say they can well you would be just lying to yourself because nobody else is buying that dumb sh#t.""Yes we did go over this yesterday and I proved DD's feats were above Drakon's.Beating Lady Shiva and Connor Hawke is nowhere near the level of beat Spider-Man,Sabretooth,or Absorbing Man.You can keep pretending Drakon is hot sh#t in a wine class...but I know and you know he's not on DD's level."Shiva and Connor are superior hand to hand fighters then Spidey, Victor and Absorbing man combined
"
Beating absorbing man was pure crap, their really isnt anyway DD should have beaten someone who can make his own Mjonir
But again if its soley hand to hand combat Drakon is going to embarass DD
that is the whole reason i put all powers because if it was soley hand to hand
team 1 would get ROFL stomped
Green Arrow could beat Sabretooth...that's what you f#ckin saying? I'm not even going to address that..
"Green Arrow could beat Sabretooth...that's what you f#ckin saying? I'm not even going to address that..In pure hand to hand combat Drakon would floor DDYou obviously didn't read the comic where DD beat Absorbing Man...Absorbing Man was in diamond form...diamonds have weaknesses and DD exploited them.Sitting here b#tching about DD using his head against Absorbing Man when you tried to use Batman holding his own against Wonder Woman is just plain ridiculous.Based solely on hand to hand DD owns Drakon.He has knocked people out with his barefist that have superhuman durability.What are you talking about all powers? You mean like DD's radar sense? It's not really a power.It's how he sees.He wasn't born with that he learned it.I agree Team 2 wins but you can stop pretending that Drakon is superior to DD because it's false and you can't prove it to be true."
Connor is one of the best Hand to hand fighters in DC and Drakon has humiliated him
Connor could beat Sabretoothe except for the Sabretoothe that wolverine killed
Batman held his own against ww in pure hand to hand combat
He did the exact same with aqua man and defeated him
"I'm really done this now.This is a waist of my time."Waste not waist
And good its better yo leave and figure out where you went wrong then to continue to fight a losing battle
Kind of like when you said Thanos owned Odin which never happened
Just dont show your face around here again k
"Vance Astro said:I spelled waste wrong and and you noticed....good for you."I'm really done this now.This is a waist of my time."Waste not waist
And good its better yo leave and figure out where you went wrong then to continue to fight a losing battle
Kind of like when you said Thanos owned Odin which never happened
Just dont show your face around here again k"
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