Batman, Black Panther, Cap America Survival of the fittest

I know bats, panther and the cap are all pretty much evenly matched in most categories according to most ppl. so what im tryin to accomplish in this thread is a break down to show which one is the best of the best in each of the given categories. what i ask is that you rank each participant from 1-3, and explain why you think they belong where you have placed them.

Categories are the following:

Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats.

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear.

Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight.

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time.

Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons.

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive?

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power?

Intellect- Who is the smartest?

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two.

Good luck, may the best char win!

Durability: Cap

Tactical skill: Bat

Prep: Bat

Weapon mastery: Cap

Agility: Black Panther or Bats

Strength and Striking power: Cap

Intellect: Batman is smarter than both combined.

Hand to Hand combat. - Batman > Cap > BP

Durability - With their gear on BP > Cap > Bats, with no gear on Cap > BP > Bats

Tactical skill - Cap > Bats > BP

Prep - Bats > BP > Cap

Weapon mastery - Cap >>> Bats > Bp

Agility - Black Panther > Cap > Bats

Strength and Striking power - Cap > BP > Bats

Intellect- BP/Bats > Cap

Misc Skills- BP/Bats > Cap.

@NEEK_03 said:

Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats.

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear.

Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight.

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time.

Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons.

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive?

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power?

Intellect- Who is the smartest?

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two.

H2H: Cap

Durability: Cap

Tactical: Cap

Prep: Bat

Weapons: Cap

Agility: BP

Strength/Power: Cap

Intellect: Bat (sorry BP)

Misc Skills: Bat

Hand to Hand combat: Batman > Cap > BP If only counting skill. If including physical attributes then Cap > Batman > BP. If including armour as well then Batman > Cap > BP.

Durability: Without gear on Cap > Batman > BP. With Gear on BP > Batman > Cap.

Tactical skill: Batman > Cap > BP

Prep: Batman > BP > Cap

Weapon Mastery: With just there main weapon Cap > Batman > BP. Skill with all weapons Batman > Cap > BP

Agility: Batman > BP > Cap

Strength and Striking Power: Cap > BP > Batman

Intellect: BP or Batman > Cap

Black panther and cap are equals in every way according to steve. I would say bruce falls short in physical stats but is a little bit more skilled. I think black panther and batman are about equals in intellect.

@NEEK_03:

Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats. BATS

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear. CAP

Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight. BATS

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time. BATS

Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons. BATS

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive? BATS

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power? CAP

Intellect- Who is the smartest? BATS

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two. BATS

Damn, BP didn't win one category

I'm confused why everyone's saying Cap > Bat in weapons mastery. Batman is one bad mofo with a Batarang.

I'm confused why everyone's saying Cap > Bat in weapons mastery. Batman is one bad mofo with a Batarang.

@Shawnbaby: No

@Shawnbaby: No

@Shawnbaby: Damn. Good point. I guess the only thing I can really come back at that with is

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No

@Shawnbaby: Damn. Good point. I guess the only thing I can really come back at that with is

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No

@Shawnbaby: Can't believe I'm even going to keep this up, but....

No * Eternity

Eternity > Infinity

And now the debate has degraded into something surprisingly close to the original debate.

Eternity is a Limitless measure of Time
Infinity is a Limitless measure of Quantity. 
One is not greater than the other. 

@Shawnbaby said:

@Onemoreposter said:

I'm confused why everyone's saying Cap > Bat in weapons mastery. Batman is one bad mofo with a Batarang.

Because Cap is better with his Shield.

So? Batman's better with swords, arrows, nunchuks, blah blah. He's more versatile when it comes to weapons mastery.

H2H - Batman

Durability - BP

Tacticall Skill - Bats,Cap

Prep - Bats

Weapon Mastery - Bats

Agility - BP,Bats

Strenght - Cap

Intellect - Bats

Misc Skills - Bats,Bp

@CitizenBane: That's why I split it into 2 sections of the same question. One for the main weapon the other for all others.

I suppose its a matter of which part of that question you feel is more important. I'd say Cap is better with his Shield than Batman is with any of his weapons though.

@Shawnbaby: except the batarang

@pooty said:

@NEEK_03:

Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats. BATS

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear. CAP

Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight. BATS

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time. BATS

Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons. BATS

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive? BATS

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power? CAP

Intellect- Who is the smartest? BATS

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two. BATS

Damn, BP didn't win one category

This but i would give agility to T'challa and intellect could go either way with T'challa and Bruce.

@Shawnbaby: @Onemoreposter: why dont we settle this with some scans?

As for my own personal view:

Hand to Hand combat. - Batman > Cap > BP

Durability - With their gear on Bats > Cap> BP

Tactical skill - Bats>Cap > BP

Prep - Bats > BP > Cap

Weapon mastery - Cap> Bats > Bp with main weapon/ but over all weapon master Batman has it hands down.

Agility - Black Panther > Cap =Bats

Strength and Striking power - Cap=Bats> BP

Intellect- Bats>>>BP>Cap

Misc Skills- Bats>BP>Cap Batman mastered an art where he can slow the blood flow to an area, he can obtain a full nights rest in just 3 hrs, master detective/ escape artist/ and a master of stealth.

I would really like to know why everyone is saying that cap is better then black panther...

@jashro44: Do you have feats to show other wise?

@jeanroygrant said:

@pooty said:

@NEEK_03:

Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats. BATS

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear. CAP

Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight. BATS

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time. BATS

Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons. BATS

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive? BATS

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power? CAP

Intellect- Who is the smartest? BATS

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two. BATS

Damn, BP didn't win one category

This but i would give agility to T'challa and intellect could go either way with T'challa and Bruce.

To T'Challa? Has he ever performed a front flip with 100 lbs of ice on his legs or used bar gymnastics to fly up 10 or 12 stories? Lol.

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Hand to Hand combat. - Batman

Durability - Captain America

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Tactical skill - Bats

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/strategytactics.html

Prep - Bats

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/standardadvanced-prep-time.html

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/special-prep-time.html

Weapon mastery - Best with their weapon, Cap. Best overall, Batman.

Agility - Captain America

Here he changes position in mid air in multiple different shots. He did not plan this dive, he jumped out and people were firing at him at different levels. This is almost if not impossible for a normal human to do. Once you dive and are in motion, you can't really change direction. This take an enhance human to do it. This along with what I posted above.

Strength and Striking power -

Intellect- Bats and BP are pretty close.

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/intellectresources.html

Misc Skills- Probably Batman.

I will admit I don't know much about Black Panther besides his small respect threads.

@SlimJ87D said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@pooty said:

@NEEK_03:

Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats. BATS

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear. CAP

Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight. BATS

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time. BATS

Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons. BATS

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive? BATS

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power? CAP

Intellect- Who is the smartest? BATS

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two. BATS

Damn, BP didn't win one category

This but i would give agility to T'challa and intellect could go either way with T'challa and Bruce.

To T'Challa? Has he ever performed a front flip with 100 lbs of ice on his legs or used bar gymnastics to fly up 10 or 12 stories? Lol.

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Hand to Hand combat. - Batman

Durability - Captain America

Gallery

Tactical skill - Bats

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/strategytactics.html

Prep - Bats

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/standardadvanced-prep-time.html

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/special-prep-time.html

Weapon mastery - Best with their weapon, Cap. Best overall, Batman.

Agility - Captain America

Here he changes position in mid air in multiple different shots. He did not plan this dive, he jumped out and people were firing at him at different levels. This is almost if not impossible for a normal human to do. Once you dive and are in motion, you can't really change direction. This take an enhance human to do it. This along with what I posted above.

Strength and Striking power -

Intellect- Bats and BP are pretty close.

http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com/p/intellectresources.html

Misc Skills- Probably Batman.

I will admit I don't know much about Black Panther besides his small respect threads.

Than i agree because of the scans, and nice scans.

@jeanroygrant: Thanks.

@SlimJ87D: Yeah nice scans, that shiled through the truck is crazy.

however i still have to say jumping out of chopper (that we arnt shown how high it is) and jumping out of a plane...while they are impressive. i think gettin punched by superman (while ordered to kill you) and gettin up. trumps that.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Endurance/Body%20Armor/supermanbatman39-superpunch1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Endurance/Body%20Armor/supermanbatman39-superpunch2.jpg

@NEEK_03: Yeah, but like I said before. The Batman/ Superman series is just weird. Like Bane being killed and Dick Grayson getting most of his teeth knocked out, disfigured and put into acoma. It was a weird series.

I'm really going by their mythos. Captain America being an enhanced human due to a serum, it is believable for him to do inhuman feats. Batman being the pinnacle of man due to drive and hard work, it would not be believable for him to jump out of a plane and land on bare feet without getting hurt.

@SlimJ87D: but once again, its comics. its not believable that a guy can run multiple times ftl. but it happens in comics. i judge the characters off of what they do in the comics. do you think jumping out of a chopper (from an unknown height) and a plane is > then gettin punched and then getting up by an individual who can lift well over 100 tons?

@NEEK_03 said:

@SlimJ87D: but once again, its comics. its not believable that a guy can run multiple times ftl. but it happens in comics. i judge the characters off of what they do in the comics. do you think jumping out of a chopper (from an unknown height) and a plane is > then gettin punched and then getting up by an individual who can lift well over 100 tons?

Okay, we don't know how hard Superman, Darkseid or MM were trying to hit him. Show me some real word things that can relate. Cap has had a whole building fall on him after he got beaten up by the Red Skull who was in a robotic powered exoskeleton. Putting that robotic exoskeleton aside, the building falling onto cap is something easily we can calculate. Cap jumping out onto the floor that causes a crater and a car to cave in half is something easy to calculate. There is no controversy over these events as they are easily calculable versus some 1000 tonner taking it easy on a street leveler due to PIS/WIS/AIS.

Can you show me where Batman has done something like landing on a car and caving its roof to the ground without any kind of harm or anything breaking his fall?

This whole "it's comics" excuse has been coming up a lot lately to back up PIS/WIS/AIS. I'm tired of it. Where has all the logic in analyzing scans gone? People simply try and say Batman took a hit from MM while Alfred took a back hand from MM are trying to say that Batman can take a hit from a 1000+ tonner is bogus. It was plot driven, we don't even know how hard MM was really trying to hit him because although being 1000+ tons, he can still hit someone far below 1 ton if he's toying around with them.

So once again, yes it's comics where PIS/WIS/AIS are used to tell us some awesome stories. But should PIS/WIS/AIS be allowed in a debate forum so all logic and reasoning be thrown out? I don't think so.

I'm putting Captain America's durability above Batman's. It's fine if you disagree with me, but I have my different reasoning and logic to back up my claims.

@NEEK_03: @SlimJ87D: I agree with Slim. That is one feat for Bat that has to be attributed to PIS. One that has never been duplicated by him. The fact Bats is still alive shows us that Supes was holding back. Bats can take a punch from superman but gets broken by Bane? Really? If Bats had more feats like that then it would be debatable. But he doesn't. Cap has consistently shown to be more durable.

@SlimJ87D: we can assume, that if superman is trying to kill some one. i doubt he will take it easy. he is going to hit with tremendous force. bruce was able to get back up.

i dont have any scans of him jumping out of planes and landing flat footed. he usually uses a cable or free falls with his cape to guide him.

however with his armor, and the overall toughness he has trained for, i think he is more durable. here is some feats with him in his armor. (which is standard for him)

blocking bullets with his arm.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batbulletblock.jpg

being shot in the face at point blank range. then getting up and fighting.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/?action=view&current=BatmanOdyssey03008-009.jpg

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/?action=view&current=BatmanOdyssey03010.jpg

blowing up a building while still inside and walking out fine.

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-ravan1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-ravan2.jpg

has cap shown this?

@NEEK_03:

Blocking bullets with his arm? You mean his armor?

Taking a bullet to his face? Did you read the scan about his new transparent armor that he was trying out?

Walking out of the building? They don't even show where he was when the explosion happen.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83/ca24015cz1.jpg/

After the explosion they still show Cap in the heart of the explosion and he walks out where's Batman the explosion happen and on panel he's outside. Not good enough, here he is withstanding a nuclear furnace

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/captainamericav303808ue2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/captainamericav303809jx2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/captainamericav303810oh7.jpg/

Cap falls, notice the Quinjet is close to the buildings height.

http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36314bd8.jpg

Cap jumps off a building through the glass of another building and lands on the ground of the the second building.

http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24006fn4.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24007dp5.jpg

Building fall.

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol407p06ro2.jpg

Falls off a building to the top of another building. Notice the crater that is created.

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica1999p33qs9.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica1999p34pg9.jpg

Hmmmm....

@SlimJ87D said:

To T'Challa? Has he ever performed a front flip with 100 lbs of ice on his legs or used bar gymnastics to fly up 10 or 12 stories? Lol.

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How do you know that's 100 pounds of ice? It doesn't say that in the scans.

Anyway...

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Hand to Hand combat. - Who has better training, backed up by impressive feats. Batman

Durability - Who can withstand the most punishment? Standard gear. With standard gear, Black Panther.

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Tactical skill - Who has shown to have the best tactics/strategy in a fight. It's a toss up between Batman and Black Panther

Prep - Who has defeated the most impressive opponent(s) with prep time. Black Panther.

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Weapon mastery - Who has mastered their weapon, and shown to be more versatile with other weapons. Cap.

Agility - Who is the most agile and evasive? Either between Cap and Black Panther.

Strength and Striking power - who has the most brute strength and striking power? Either between Cap and Black Panther.

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Intellect- Who is the smartest? Tie between Black Panther and Batman.

Misc Skills- Anything else you think that will help them trump the other two. ???

@SlimJ87D said:

Falls off a building to the top of another building. Notice the crater that is created.

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica1999p33qs9.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica1999p34pg9.jpg

The guy that Cap was fighting broke his fall in the second scan. I don't think that counts.

@Static Shock: I assumed it judging from the height and diameter. It could probably be less.

Dude I was waiting for you to come in here, those are awesome BP scans, I'm going to save them for future BP debates. Thank you.

@SlimJ87D: You're welcome.

I know I got some agility feats for T'Challa. I'll post them later.

@SlimJ87D said:

@Static Shock: I assumed it judging from the height and diameter. It could probably be less.

Dude I was waiting for you to come in here, those are awesome BP scans, I'm going to save them for future BP debates. Thank you.

Nevertheless, with the other scans it's still pretty superhuman to be able to survive a fall even if it was on a person.

Average human ability to take fall with table breaking fall.

@Static Shock: wow those are great scans, opened my eyes to BP. deff things i didnt know. though i still dont think he has better prep given the whole tower of babel thing.

@SlimJ87D said:

@NEEK_03:

Blocking bullets with his arm? You mean his armor?

Taking a bullet to his face? Did you read the scan about his new transparent armor that he was trying out?

Walking out of the building? They don't even show where he was when the explosion happen.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83/ca24015cz1.jpg/

After the explosion they still show Cap in the heart of the explosion and he walks out where's Batman the explosion happen and on panel he's outside. Not good enough, here he is withstanding a nuclear furnace

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/captainamericav303808ue2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/captainamericav303809jx2.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/captainamericav303810oh7.jpg/

Cap falls, notice the Quinjet is close to the buildings height.

http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36314bd8.jpg

Cap jumps off a building through the glass of another building and lands on the ground of the the second building.

http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24006fn4.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca24007dp5.jpg

Building fall.

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericavol407p06ro2.jpg

Falls off a building to the top of another building. Notice the crater that is created.

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica1999p33qs9.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamerica1999p34pg9.jpg

i know he is wearing armor, however that is part of batman. i didnt say bruce wayne i said batman, and his armor is part of his standard gear. so it adds to his durability in my opinion.

here he is show in the building while it blows:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-abbot1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-abbot2.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-abbot3.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-abbot4.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-abbot5.jpg

Blows up a lab while he is still inside:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-desert1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batarmor-desert2.jpg

takes multiple attacks from kid amazo who states he has supermans's strength:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvskidamazo1.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvskidamazo2.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvskidamazo3.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/batvskidamazo4.jpg

@NEEK_03:

Can I ask you a question? Do you read the scans you post to us?

"I could crush you , turn your bones into powder. And I will unless you..."

*Batman uses bats to escape*

Please tell me the honest truth, if you read that or not. If you did not then you are forgiven. But if you did and you still tried to use it as a durability feat that Batman can take 100+ ton blows, shame on you for not reading another scan and exaggerating a scan to me.

As for the explosion thing, I don't know how much of a durability feat it can be considered seeing that his armor and cape are above Caps gear as you have shown and others have shown. So I can't make a fair comment on it besides you asking me if Cap could do the same and I showed you him surviving an explosion and everyone else dead around him.

Still haven't seen Batman be able to fall multiple stories high causing craters and smashing cars in half.

Cap takes the durability if they are unaided. Black Panther takes it if you include armor due to his vibranium plating.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7604/1139397-untitled2_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7604/1139398-untitled1_super.jpg

I'm being fair here, as much as you think I'm bias against Batman, I gave him the majority of the stats you asked about proving that I'm not. But credit is given where credit is due. I'd have to agree with @Static Shock: on his cases with BP though as he's much more knowledgeable on the character than I.

@NEEK_03 said:

@Static Shock: wow those are great scans, opened my eyes to BP. deff things i didnt know. though i still dont think he has better prep given the whole tower of babel thing.

Prep against Galactus >>>>> Prep against the Justice League.

Hell, prep against Mephisto >>>> Prep against the Justice League

@SlimJ87D:

Can I ask you a question? Do you read the scans you post to us?

"I could crush you , turn your bones into powder. And I will unless you..."

*Batman uses bats to escape*

i was simply showing the scan of him taking a punch from kid amazo, to back up the scan i posted earlier of him surviving one from superman himself.

but i agree with BP taking it in gear then batman then cap. out side of gear since cap wears none he is superior to them like u stated.

@SlimJ87D :I'm being fair here, as much as you think I'm bias against Batman, I gave him the majority of the stats you asked about proving that I'm not. But credit is given where credit is due. I'd have to agree with @Static Shock: on his cases with BP though as he's much more knowledgeable on the character than I.

i noticed this too. you were not bias

@Static Shock said:

@NEEK_03 said:

@Static Shock: wow those are great scans, opened my eyes to BP. deff things i didnt know. though i still dont think he has better prep given the whole tower of babel thing.

Prep against Galactus >>>>> Prep against the Justice League.

Hell, prep against Mephisto >>>> Prep against the Justice League

agreed.

Hand to Hand combat. - Batman > Cap > BP

Durability - With their gear on BP > Batman > Cap, with no gear on Cap > BP > Bats

Tactical skill - Cap > Batman > BP

Prep - Batman > BP > Cap

Weapon mastery - Batman > Cap > Bp

Agility - Black Panther > Cap > Bats

Strength and Striking power - Cap > BP > Batman

Intellect- Batman > Black Panther > Cap

Misc Skills- Batman > Black Panther > Cap.

@NEEK_03: Yes, and what I and Pooty tried to point out to you that we don't know how hard they were really trying to hit Batman. It's like saying "Superman couldn't knock out Batman why could Deathstroke?" That's all I'm trying to point out. There are honestly better Batman durability feats that I personally use like when the earth was crushing his body in the coffin and it actually states how much weight is on him while he is being suffocated and he was fatigued and drugged, etc and etc.

For street levelers, these are the most creditable durability feats you can show. Not a backhand from a 100 tonner where it's obvious that they didn't hit him with 100 tons. These kinds of showings are controversial and questionable.

Being shot by a sniping rifle (these rifles have higher velocity and kinetic energy than other guns due to barrel length, bullet, gund powder, etc) and still going after the shooter, Pre-Batman.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Endurance/Stamina/?action=view&current=batmanrobin6-nobodysniper2.jpg

etc, etc.

Anyways, man it's so easy to debate for Batman. He has the best respect page I have ever seen of all heroes.

haha i feel that cap and BP are cheating. both of them are on drugs. one has the super solider serum, the other has rare magic herbs.

@SlimJ87D said:

@NEEK_03: Yes, and what I and Pooty tried to point out to you that we don't know how hard they were really trying to hit Batman. It's like saying "Superman couldn't knock out Batman why could Deathstroke?" That's all I'm trying to point out. There are honestly better Batman durability feats that I personally use like when the earth was crushing his body in the coffin and it actually states how much weight is on him while he is being suffocated and he was fatigued and drugged, etc and etc.

For street levelers, these are the most creditable durability feats you can show. Not a backhand from a 100 tonner where it's obvious that they didn't hit him with 100 tons. These kinds of showings are controversial and questionable.

Being shot by a sniping rifle (these rifles have higher velocity and kinetic energy than other guns due to barrel length, bullet, gund powder, etc) and still going after the shooter, Pre-Batman.

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Endurance/Stamina/?action=view&current=batmanrobin6-nobodysniper2.jpg

etc, etc.

Anyways, man it's so easy to debate for Batman. He has the best respect page I have ever seen of all heroes.

Ofcourse superman could knock bruce out, its to show he can take one hit from him, when DS knocks out batman its from a long fight, which consists of multiple hits. unless u can show me DS one shotting bruce.