Batman Beyond VS. Batman

#1 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Beyond has better gadgets but Batman is smarter

#2 Posted by batmanbeyond234 (1850 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Beyond. Bats cant touch him. He hits him with a bunch of exploding batarangs.Plus hes cooler.
#3 Edited by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

#4 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@gobstakid777: wtf is that supposed to mean
#5 Posted by Hero1 (190 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

If there both in their prime, than batman stomps beyond.

#6 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

batman is a pedophile lol
 
some virus is spreading or whatever, and the heroes have transfered it to their partners
u see all the other heroes talk about their girlfriends, meaning the virus is spread through kiss or sex or whatever
and then bats mentions robin..

#7 Posted by Noah Kenshiki (2489 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Bruce or Dick?

#8 Posted by Gambler (80653 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

If its Bruce Wayne Batman then he takes it. Everything Batman Beyond has and uses was given and or created by the original Batman. He knows all of Batman Beyond's strength, tendencies, and weakness. Bruce is a tactical genius. Terry is a suit filler, nothing more.  Experience wins out over gadgets in this one.

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#9 Posted by Gambler (80653 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@gobstakid777 said:
"batman is a pedophile lol  some virus is spreading or whatever, and the heroes have transfered it to their partners u see all the other heroes talk about their girlfriends, meaning the virus is spread through kiss or sex or whatever and then bats mentions robin.. "
Wrong.
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#10 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

I guess your right

#11 Posted by WeaponX510 (1017 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

regual batman stomps all the beyond gagets he got from bruce

#12 Posted by Phorqe (2110 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

I'd say Beyond has a slight edge.
 
@WeaponX510:
@Gambler:
While skill and tactical prowess would go to Batman. Batman Beyond was created by Batman in the future using future tech to fight future threats.

#13 Posted by Espada (1815 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@Gambler said:
" If its Bruce Wayne Batman then he takes it. Everything Batman Beyond has and uses was given and or created by the original Batman. He knows all of Batman Beyond's strength, tendencies, and weakness. Bruce is a tactical genius. Terry is a suit filler, nothing more.  Experience wins out over gadgets in this one. "
Would Bruce really have the knowledge that he did of Terry in this scenario? For him to have access to it wouldn't he have to be an old man?
 
Either way, as he progressed Terry learned everything Bruce could have taught him, and while he wasn't as accomplished at fighting as his mentor, Beyond fought dirty, something the original seldom, if not never, did.
#14 Posted by Taliax (493 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

 
I like Bruce more than Terry but...
Terry is in a suit that can fly, amplifies his strength, and can turn invisible. This is a cakewalk for Terry even if Bruce has superior intellect. He is in suit made from technology 30+ years into the future from Bruce's era.  Compare any item of tech now; cars, aircraft, weapons etc and put it up against anyone using similar range technology from thirty years ago. Having a technological advantage is huge.

#15 Posted by comic stooge (169 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@Taliax:

Beyonder FOR LIFE! 
Terry would rawn Bruce...because
  
"Terry is in a suit that can fly, amplifies his strength, and can turn invisible. This is a cakewalk for Terry even if Bruce has superior intellect. He is in suit made from technology 30+ years into the future from Bruce's era.  Compare any item of tech now; cars, aircraft, weapons etc and put it up against anyone using similar range technology from thirty years ago. Having a technological advantage is huge"     
 
.and Terry can fight dirty if he wants 
#16 Posted by NightFang (9223 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

I say its a tie.

#17 Posted by burr787 (2504 posts) - 3 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

If BB is an adult then I can see him taking this. It's basically a low powered Iron Man vs. Batman.

#18 Posted by TGalinsky (236 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@burr787 said:
" If BB is an adult then I can see him taking this. It's basically a low powered Iron Man vs. Batman. "
wow. what you just said is freakin awesome
#19 Posted by Obtrusive (1561 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Batman will win.  Even if its old batman, he taught batman beyond everything he knows. 

#20 Posted by iLLituracy (13522 posts) - 3 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Obtrusive said:

" Batman will win.  Even if its old batman, he taught batman beyond everything he knows.  "

Student usually surpasses master.
 
For starters, even though Batman honed Terry's skill, Terry showed prowess for fighting since day one BEFORE he met Bruce and became Batman when he took on the Jokerz.

Terry is essentially Bruce Wayne. Terry is a clone of Bruce Wayne, and if I remember correctly, by the end of JLU, Terry fills Bruce's shoes nicely. Terry outclasses Bruce when it comes to the tech they use, Batman of the Future's suit is definitely the edge in this fight with it's flight capability, it's batarang launcher, it's invisibility--matter of fact, Wikipedia has a nice article with a piece on Terry's Batsuit.

The Batsuit worn by Terry is the last incarnation created by Wayne before his retirement. Though the technology in the suit is 20 years old, it is still considered cutting edge. This version of the suit has a mask which completely covers the face, the only opening being the mouth. Lens in the eyes transmit visual data to the wearer. The cape has been eliminated, being replaced by glider wings under the arms. Thrusters built into the boots allow Batman to fly in the absence of wind. For long range flight, Terry has access to a flight-capable Batmobile - while hover and flight capabilities on even civilian transports are commonplace, the wheel has not been completely phased out. The circuitry in the suit can be paralyzed from the Batcave, in case the suit is stolen.

The Batsuit conforms to the size and physique of its wearer, being able to fit both the physically imposing Wayne and the much slimmer Terry. The form-fitting material provides almost no reduction in flexibility, while muscular enhancement technology enhances the wearers strength by a factor of ten. The material in the suit is resistant to massive concussive forces (in particular, it was able to take blows from Superman), fire, lasers, electric shocks, water pressure, wind force, and even low levels of radiation. A built-in rebreather allows the user to remain underwater for long periods or breathe in other inhospitable areas.

The suit possesses a two-way audio and visual link with the Batcave computer, allowing Terry to keep in contact with Wayne for superior tactical planning. The same applies to the Batmobile, which will automatically fly to the user's location when summoned. Directional microphones in the fingertips allow the user to hear and record audio through walls or at a distance. The suit's lens can scan a number of frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum, allowing night vision among other things. However, as the suit's visual capabilities are entirely electronic, the user is effectively rendered blind if they are disrupted.

The suit has several defensive capabilities. A device on the belt can electrically charge the suit to repel close attackers. This same feature can be limited to just the hands, turning the defensive technology into an offensive one if need be. The suit also possesses a cloaking device that can render Terry invisible to the naked eye, a feature also present on the Batmobile. It cannot, however, filter ultraviolet light. Pads on the feet can be magnetically charged, allowing the user to cling to metal surfaces even when upside-down.

The suits offensive capabilities are also significant. It carries a large number of dispensable Batarangs, which when inactive are compact enough to be invisible to the naked eye. These Batarangs come with a range of auxiliary functions, such as producing electric shocks or explosions. However, there is a limit to the amount of Batarangs the Batsuit can dispense; Batman has run out on at least one occasion. In addition, the Batsuit has discs that can be fired from the tops of the hands, grappling guns in the forearms, and launchable tracers. The belt on the Batsuit carries flashbang grenades, smoke pellets, Flexicuffs, and a buzz saw on the buckle. Retractable claws on the fingers can be used to slice objects and grip solid surfaces.

Finally, the batsuit possesses a number of other devices to aid in detective work. The right index finger possesses a retractable decoding device for electronic locks, and the fingers can analyze most substances they are dipped into to. Other, less-used devices, such as frequency scanners, also make appearances.

All of this, paired with Bruce's training, Terry's natural prowess for fighting--I think he takes it, especially if this is Terry from JLU and not Batman Beyond, even though he was very well capable of doing things on his own in his own series.
 
As for Bruce building the suit and knowing what it does in this fight, he wouldn't unless this is an older Bruce. Bruce built the suit seen in Beyond to aid his body, to help him along in his old age [he does this in a few incarnations, the only one I don't remember him actually seeking aid in when he becomes old is in Frank Miller's DKR, but he usually resorts to technology to help him along]. The technology in the suit was built twenty years prior to Terry taking the mantle and was STILL considered cutting edge when he put it on, mind you, Batman built the suit when he was close to retirement.
 
Terry would know Bruce more than Bruce knows of Terry in this scenario, as well.
 
All in all, Terry wins.
#21 Posted by Maikel (367 posts) - 3 years, 1 month ago - Show Bio
@iLLituracy: Bruce during his JLU time, vs Terry in the Episode: "Epiloque", old Bruce is still watching the screens in the Batcave. He'd shut down the suit enhancements to teach Terry a lesson and even the playing field. 
  
If Terry somehow managed to travel back in time and had to Fight Bruce in his traditional Suit, Bruce would be endlessly outclassed. Old bruce also fought once in the series in an Exo-suit, but got a heart-attack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqRATvE-gXo (and in the second part his age is reverted to in his late 40's by R'as al Gul, but Terry is only a teenager here) 
 
As for the incarnations he uses the suit in himself, yes, in DKR he fights superman, at thesame age fights Mr. Freeze in a suit that looks just like it.  Old bruce also fought once in the series in an Exo-suit(that looked nothing like the DKR-suit), but got a heart-attack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqRATvE-gXo (and in the second part his age is reverted to in his late 40's by R'as al Gul, but Terry is only a teenager here). He does seek AID in DKR from a new female Robin, or more likely she comes to his rescue.
#22 Posted by ComicStooge (5282 posts) - 2 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio
@iLLituracy said:
" @Obtrusive said:

" Batman will win.  Even if its old batman, he taught batman beyond everything he knows.  "

Student usually surpasses master.
 
For starters, even though Batman honed Terry's skill, Terry showed prowess for fighting since day one BEFORE he met Bruce and became Batman when he took on the Jokerz.

Terry is essentially Bruce Wayne. Terry is a clone of Bruce Wayne, and if I remember correctly, by the end of JLU, Terry fills Bruce's shoes nicely. Terry outclasses Bruce when it comes to the tech they use, Batman of the Future's suit is definitely the edge in this fight with it's flight capability, it's batarang launcher, it's invisibility--matter of fact, Wikipedia has a nice article with a piece on Terry's Batsuit.

The Batsuit worn by Terry is the last incarnation created by Wayne before his retirement. Though the technology in the suit is 20 years old, it is still considered cutting edge. This version of the suit has a mask which completely covers the face, the only opening being the mouth. Lens in the eyes transmit visual data to the wearer. The cape has been eliminated, being replaced by glider wings under the arms. Thrusters built into the boots allow Batman to fly in the absence of wind. For long range flight, Terry has access to a flight-capable Batmobile - while hover and flight capabilities on even civilian transports are commonplace, the wheel has not been completely phased out. The circuitry in the suit can be paralyzed from the Batcave, in case the suit is stolen.

The Batsuit conforms to the size and physique of its wearer, being able to fit both the physically imposing Wayne and the much slimmer Terry. The form-fitting material provides almost no reduction in flexibility, while muscular enhancement technology enhances the wearers strength by a factor of ten. The material in the suit is resistant to massive concussive forces (in particular, it was able to take blows from Superman), fire, lasers, electric shocks, water pressure, wind force, and even low levels of radiation. A built-in rebreather allows the user to remain underwater for long periods or breathe in other inhospitable areas.

The suit possesses a two-way audio and visual link with the Batcave computer, allowing Terry to keep in contact with Wayne for superior tactical planning. The same applies to the Batmobile, which will automatically fly to the user's location when summoned. Directional microphones in the fingertips allow the user to hear and record audio through walls or at a distance. The suit's lens can scan a number of frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum, allowing night vision among other things. However, as the suit's visual capabilities are entirely electronic, the user is effectively rendered blind if they are disrupted.

The suit has several defensive capabilities. A device on the belt can electrically charge the suit to repel close attackers. This same feature can be limited to just the hands, turning the defensive technology into an offensive one if need be. The suit also possesses a cloaking device that can render Terry invisible to the naked eye, a feature also present on the Batmobile. It cannot, however, filter ultraviolet light. Pads on the feet can be magnetically charged, allowing the user to cling to metal surfaces even when upside-down.

The suits offensive capabilities are also significant. It carries a large number of dispensable Batarangs, which when inactive are compact enough to be invisible to the naked eye. These Batarangs come with a range of auxiliary functions, such as producing electric shocks or explosions. However, there is a limit to the amount of Batarangs the Batsuit can dispense; Batman has run out on at least one occasion. In addition, the Batsuit has discs that can be fired from the tops of the hands, grappling guns in the forearms, and launchable tracers. The belt on the Batsuit carries flashbang grenades, smoke pellets, Flexicuffs, and a buzz saw on the buckle. Retractable claws on the fingers can be used to slice objects and grip solid surfaces.

Finally, the batsuit possesses a number of other devices to aid in detective work. The right index finger possesses a retractable decoding device for electronic locks, and the fingers can analyze most substances they are dipped into to. Other, less-used devices, such as frequency scanners, also make appearances.

All of this, paired with Bruce's training, Terry's natural prowess for fighting--I think he takes it, especially if this is Terry from JLU and not Batman Beyond, even though he was very well capable of doing things on his own in his own series.  As for Bruce building the suit and knowing what it does in this fight, he wouldn't unless this is an older Bruce. Bruce built the suit seen in Beyond to aid his body, to help him along in his old age [he does this in a few incarnations, the only one I don't remember him actually seeking aid in when he becomes old is in Frank Miller's DKR, but he usually resorts to technology to help him along]. The technology in the suit was built twenty years prior to Terry taking the mantle and was STILL considered cutting edge when he put it on, mind you, Batman built the suit when he was close to retirement.  Terry would know Bruce more than Bruce knows of Terry in this scenario, as well. All in all, Terry wins. "
What he said.
#23 Posted by spiderguylll (620 posts) - 2 years, 7 months ago - Show Bio

Terry would beat Bruce but Dick is harder to hit and seems to spot weaknesses faster than both

#24 Posted by chriss20 (6 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

i know this is an anciant post, i just sorta come across it. just a few things id point out.

despite his advanced strength, terry couldnt match joker (in a 50yr old body) in hand to hand combat, and his cloaking device

was usless at hiding his presance from barbara and robin.

also his suit is weak to electrical pulses, and bruce often had a supply of batarangs which are electrically charged.

if bruce was in his prime, despite his advanced strengh and tek, bruce has superior fighting ability, and could take stronger hits (his fight with superman) bruce would eventually adapt to his somtimes dirty style and figure out his asissted strength, a few hits with an electro batarang and terry is out

#25 Posted by comicace3 (1479 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Batman takes this.

#26 Posted by dondave (7524 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Batman ftw

#27 Posted by CalebHara (1958 posts) - 4 months, 23 days ago - Show Bio

Bruce, in his prime would beat the hell out of Terry for trying to pick a fight with him while he is in one of his own suits.

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