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Poll: Batman Battle of the Month VOTING: Batman vs. Snake Eyes (323 votes)

Batman 58%
Snake Eyes 33%
Too close to call 8%

A new month has begun and that can only mean one thing: it's time to put Batman's skills to the test. We usually come up with Bruce Wayne's next battle on our own, but this month's match has been determined by the community. Snake-Eyes took a huge lead over quite a few other characters in the poll, so why not simply give the people what they want, right?

Does DC's legendary hero have what it takes to earn a majority of victories over the deadly dude from G.I. Joe? Well, that'll be determined by you. Yes, you. Voting and debate for this fight will remain open until Friday morning (ET), so that gives you roughly four full days to think about how this fight would go down. And, if you don't have all the facts about one (or both) of these combatants, then that gives you more than enough time to research them or at least read the ongoing debate. When you're ready, go ahead and give the Comic Vine crowd a good dose of your mind.

Match Rules

  • Combatants are in character (aka morals apply for both).
  • This is a random encounter (aka no prep/prior knowledge for either).
  • They're fighting in a generic downtown city setting. It's unpopulated, at night and all standard city lights remain on. Assume they start roughly 40 feet apart and visible. There's a fair amount of cover between them (parked vehicles, bus stops and such). The entire area is on limits. This means alleys, rooftops, building interiors, etc.
  • Both characters have their standard gear.
  • Incapacitation, knockout or death all count as elimination. Making a tactical retreat counts as a loss, too.
  • Just to clarify: Batman has his New 52 gear, however, his skill feats from the pre-52 era can be taken into account since he's supposed to be as skilled as he once was. Plus, that just makes things more fun to speculate, right?
  • Hey, you know what would be really cool? Treating everyone else in the debate with respect. If you think someone's saying something that just isn't true, go ahead and stick to the facts to point out why. There's no need at all to drop insults just because you disagree with someone. Seriously, this is just talking about a fictional fight, there's no need for immaturity and mudslinging.
  • If you think the poll isn't going how it should, making an informative post about why a character is being underestimated and spreading the word is far more useful than complaining and name calling. Just saying.
  • One more thing: you don't need to write an essay to be selected as the Viner Argument of the Week. Sometimes concise posts can be way more effective than a flood of paragraphs.

Viners, you have the week to research, debate and vote! This means there's no reason to vote right away if you don't have all of the info you need to make an educated decision. Check the homepage Friday for an updated article with the following:

  • Thoughts from the staff.
  • A Viner Argument for both characters (can't include scans and must be in this thread).
  • If we're lucky, blurbs from industry talent.

Feel free to make future "Batman: Battle of the Month" suggestions in the comments below or via Twitter!

#1 Posted by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice matchup.

#2 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Batman is hated here.

#3 Edited by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

#4 Posted by laflux (15935 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

#6 Posted by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

Eh, you have a few people running around like that, but the most of the debating community on the Vine is better than that. I feel Batman is going to win the pool, and I am leaning towards him as of now. Going to wait and here a little more about Snake Eyes before I vote though.

#7 Edited by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Staff
#8 Posted by Lunacyde (19111 posts) - - Show Bio

Snake-Eyes....in a long and brutal battle I would pay handsomely to see. I'll expound upon my reasoning later. For now the basics are that the two characters are very similar in a lot of ways. Where there are differences I can see SE having more of the advantages useful to this encounter. Batman's greatest advantages over SE are his overall intelligence, preparedness, exploitation of opponent weaknesses and wide array of gadgets and gear. These qualities will factor very little into this specific battle. Meanwhile Snake-Eyes greatest advantages are his willingness to do anything he must to defeat his opponent, his willingness to kill, and his deadly assortment and knowledge of weapons. These will factor more heavily into the fight and tip the scales in his favor.

#9 Posted by Overlander (521 posts) - - Show Bio

Snake eyes has a lifetime of dedication to his art, no compunctions against firearms, similar (if not superior) levels of stealth, and a lethal level of violence.

#10 Edited by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Snake Eyes should win in a close match. He is really on par with pre 52 Deathstroke, only more skilled and no Healing Factor.

#12 Posted by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah, I think @frozen would have some fun on here :)

#13 Edited by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman somewhat handily. It's all well and good to go on about Snake-Eyes' lack of compunctions and stealth and experience and yada yada, but the fact remains that he exists in a universe where the challenges he has to face are far less formidable than the challenges Batman has faced. Snake-Eyes offers nothing that Batman hasn't seen before.

@cadencev2 said:

Snake Eyes should win in a close match. He is really on par with pre 52 Deathstroke, only more skilled and no Healing Factor.

Deathstroke would break Snake-Eyes in half, they're not remotely comparable.

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#14 Posted by YoungJustice (6841 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been waiting for this matchup since the start of this segment, I voted Snake Eyes because I personally think that he is more toned in his art. Like how Batman does have much more versatility in his knowledge, but Snake Eyes sticks to a few types of combat and perfected them.

#15 Posted by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I'll spend some time in this thread, I haven't debated in a while.

Moderator
#16 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Calm yourself man :) I already voted.

#17 Posted by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Calm yourself man :) I already voted.

Not sure how that wasn't calm, but okay...?

Staff
#18 Edited by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been waiting for this matchup since the start of this segment, I voted Snake Eyes because I personally think that he is more toned in his art. Like how Batman does have much more versatility in his knowledge, but Snake Eyes sticks to a few types of combat and perfected them.

What makes you say that Batman hasn't extensively honed what he knows?

#19 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Calm yourself man :) I already voted.

Not sure how that wasn't calm, but okay...?

Seemed a bit angered.

#20 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:

Batman somewhat handily. It's all well and good to go on about Snake-Eyes' lack of compunctions and stealth and experience and yada yada, but the fact remains that he exists in a universe where the challenges he has to face are far less formidable than the challenges Batman has faced. Snake-Eyes offers nothing that Batman hasn't seen before.

@cadencev2 said:

Snake Eyes should win in a close match. He is really on par with pre 52 Deathstroke, only more skilled and no Healing Factor.

Deathstroke would break Snake-Eyes in half, they're not remotely comparable.

Love this response.

#21 Posted by entropy_aegis (15319 posts) - - Show Bio

I'mma call out @entropy_aegis for his thoughts on this.

Thank you for your vote of confidence but I cant call myself a Snake Eyes expert,so while I can debate for Batman it just wont be unbiased from my perspective,not to mention the GI:Joe franchise regularly shifts companies,thus rendering all previous feats invalid,makng it even harder to make a case for Snake Eyes,ultimately I believe that's gonna lead to his loss(if he does lose) here.

#22 Edited by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Calm yourself man :) I already voted.

Not sure how that wasn't calm, but okay...?

Seemed a bit angered.

It ended with a wink face. That's a very odd angry post!

Staff
#23 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5056 posts) - - Show Bio

I think these 2 are evenly matched. Could go either way.

#24 Posted by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

I'mma call out @entropy_aegis for his thoughts on this.

Thank you for your vote of confidence but I cant call myself a Snake Eyes expert,so while I can debate for Batman it just wont be unbiased from my perspective,not to mention the GI:Joe franchise regularly shifts companies,thus rendering all previous feats invalid,makng it even harder to make a case for Snake Eyes,ultimately I believe that's gonna lead to his loss(if he does lose) here.

Thanks for the input mate. Just wanted to get someone as extremely knowledgeable as Batman as yourself on here :)

#25 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Calm yourself man :) I already voted.

Not sure how that wasn't calm, but okay...?

Seemed a bit angered.

It ended with a wink face. That's a very odd angry post!

#26 Edited by Jayc1324 (12236 posts) - - Show Bio

Snake eyes is nothing batman can't deal with. As a matter or fact he has dealt with everything snake eyes has to offer before. I read a little bit to get an idea of what snake eyes can do outside of the recent movies, and Batman's superior skills gear and physicals should give him the win

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#27 Edited by k4tzm4n (44234 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@wolverine08 said:

I'mma call out @entropy_aegis for his thoughts on this.

not to mention the GI:Joe franchise regularly shifts companies,thus rendering all previous feats invalid,makng it even harder to make a case for Snake Eyes

That was a big concern of mine, especially since I'm not regularly following the current IDW run. However, if a case can be made that they're supposed to be on par (say, Marvel and IDW SE), then I'm fine with allowing feats from different companies.

Staff
#28 Posted by reaverlation (15842 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman battle already?A month has went by fast.

#29 Posted by laflux (15935 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:

I think I'll spend some time in this thread, I haven't debated in a while.

O_O

#30 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman. More versatility, skill, and smarter(strategy, chemical, engineering, not that two of those would come into play but just to show he's all around smarter) Also like Saren said Batman has faced much bigger and worse challenges.

#31 Posted by micah (1382 posts) - - Show Bio

Snake Eyes is a Ninja of the Arashikage clan and is the most effective warrior they have ever produced aside from possibly Storm Shadow. Snake Eyes is a master martial artist, elite assassin and an expert Commando warrior. He is known for conducting raids all his own against Cobra, single handedly taking down their strongholds.

He is capable of flawlessly fighting blind, superb Close Quarters Combat (CQC), Lock Picking, unbelievable athletics, and possesses an uncanny awareness, and remarkable balance. He tirelessly accepts mission after mission, Snake Eyes is a warrior in every sense of the word. Fellow G.I. Joe, Scarlett has referred to Snake Eyes as a 3-Bravo-0, Baddest Butt-Kicker Bar None.

Strength

Snake Eyes has been known to shatter rock with his bare hands, and head-butt a Cobra soldier with enough force to shatter his fully reinforced helmet, and lunging long distances with no artificial aid.

Speed

Snake Eyes consistently speed blitz's his oppositions (striking just before they can pull the trigger, even with leg injuries sustained), dodge bullet fire (even from aircrafts), and has been seen running faster than a motorcycle to catch the driver. He has disappeared in plain sight.

Qi/Ki Sense

Snake Eyes is capable of sensing any individuals Qi/Ki energy and see if they are hostile.

Blood Control

He can control his own blood flow, and has been known to use this technique to fake his own death.

Psychological Control

Snake Eyes is impervious to mind control. The Arashikage has trained Snake Eyes to control his mind as well as his body. Taught mental combat and the ability to recognize those forces that, for good or ill, must be stopped at all costs.

Precision

Possesses the ability to throw any object with deadly surgical accuracy. He is known to throw knives, swords, and Shuriken, but has been know to improvise, even using his own firearms once they have run out of bullets. His marksmanship is remarkable, as he rarely misses gunfire.

Indomitable Will

Snake Eyes is known for accomplishing tasks regardless of his physical condition. Even finishing a mission with evidence broken bones, contusions, burns, fractures, bullet wounds, blood loss, exhaustion, and being ill all at once. He has resisted torture and has proven to be impervious to mind control. Snake Eyes simply never gives up and never gives in.

He wins :)

#32 Posted by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@saren said:

I think I'll spend some time in this thread, I haven't debated in a while.

O_O

Want some popcorn Laflux? I got mine out already.

#33 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:

@cadencev2 said:

Snake Eyes should win in a close match. He is really on par with pre 52 Deathstroke, only more skilled and no Healing Factor.

Deathstroke would break Snake-Eyes in half, they're not remotely comparable.

Meh. I think Snake Eyes is comparable by feats, unless we take in DS prep feats.

#34 Posted by Frozen (13252 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by laflux (15935 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: I'll do you one better- got my Popcorn chicken out on standby

#36 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33429 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@k4tzm4n said:

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08 said:

@patrat18 said:

Lol Batman is hated here.

Batman isn't hated anywhere. Far from it.

He's won these battles many times. I'm pretty sure people are just voting Snakeyes so Batman does not get another win.

History isn't on your side. He lost last month's battle and it was because of a legitimate debate. Are there some people who blindly vote for or against Batman? Obviously, there's no stopping that. Is that a large amount of people? I'd like to have a little more faith in humanity than that. Now how about we get back on track and you say who you think would win instead of generalizing others? ;)

Also, you're saying this when there's literally just 4 votes.

Calm yourself man :) I already voted.

Not sure how that wasn't calm, but okay...?

Seemed a bit angered.

It ended with a wink face. That's a very odd angry post!

The Wink of Doom?

#37 Edited by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:

@cadencev2 said:

Snake Eyes should win in a close match. He is really on par with pre 52 Deathstroke, only more skilled and no Healing Factor.

Deathstroke would break Snake-Eyes in half, they're not remotely comparable.

Meh. I think Snake Eyes is comparable by feats, unless we take in DS prep feats.

He's not comparable by any stretch of imagination.

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#38 Posted by Frozen (13252 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman wins.

Essentially, he's better with stealth than Snake, a much better fighter, has went up against more dangerous opponents and if we count new-52 too, he arguably has the better technology.

#39 Posted by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:
@cadencev2 said:

@saren said:

@cadencev2 said:

Snake Eyes should win in a close match. He is really on par with pre 52 Deathstroke, only more skilled and no Healing Factor.

Deathstroke would break Snake-Eyes in half, they're not remotely comparable.

Meh. I think Snake Eyes is comparable by feats, unless we take in DS prep feats.

He's not comparable by any stretch of imagination.

Well, I'm no expert in either, only what I seen of Scans and Tourney Debates. @esquire debates a mean Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes.

#41 Edited by Wolverine08 (42245 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: I'm bringing out the beer!

#42 Posted by laflux (15935 posts) - - Show Bio
#43 Posted by RogueShadow (10743 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by micah (1382 posts) - - Show Bio
#45 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8037 posts) - - Show Bio

Snake Eyes ftw

#46 Edited by leokearon (1803 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman shown as being unbeatable in his own comics.

Snake Eyes shown as being unbeatable in his own comics.

Too Close to call

#47 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah:

Explain. How would blood control, ki sense, or psychological defense help in this battle? Batman has already resisted telepath, don't see how controlling your blood helps unless you explain and same with the ki sense

Speed you say. Batman has basically no he has repeated every feat you pretty much mentioned as well as dodge omega beams which are capable of keeping up with Flash.

Strength. Batman has broken threw brick walls with seemingly ease as well as kick down tree with a kick.

Will. Really. Cause Batman hasn't been shot, stabbed, nearly blown up, and still be able to hang a bit with Bane, multiple thugs,or multiple Talons but OK..........

Instead of saying a character has the ability you should explain why it's useful. And yes I know I didn't in my post but if you wish to continue debating then I will.

#48 Posted by patrat18 (9765 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12 said:

@micah:

Explain. How would blood control, ki sense, or psychological defense help in this battle? Batman has already resisted telepath, don't see how controlling your blood helps unless you explain and same with the ki sense

Speed you say. Batman has basically no he has repeated every feat you pretty much mentioned as well as dodge omega beams which are capable of keeping up with Flash.

Strength. Batman has broken threw brick walls with seemingly ease as well as kick down tree with a kick.

Will. Really. Cause Batman hasn't been shot, stabbed, nearly blown up, and still be able to hang a bit with Bane, multiple thugs,or multiple Talons but OK..........

Instead of saying a character has the ability you should explain why it's useful. And yes I know I didn't in my post but if you wish to continue debating then I will.

WOOOOH! Slow down buddy. Scans??

#49 Edited by Lunacyde (19111 posts) - - Show Bio

I particularly enjoy it when people say Snake-Eyes hasn't faced any legitimate threats. His main opponent is comparable to most high end street levellers (bullet timer, moves faster than the eye can follow, 8th degree black belt in five martial arts, can fight blindfolded, disappear in plain sight, scale sheer walls bare handed, so on and so forth.) he's beaten androids with superhuman physicals, master ninja with arcane abilities, T-800 esque cyborgs, Soldiers with enhanced speed and strength, two master ninja who are telepathically linked to work as one, a ninja master who has mastered even more forms than Batman, a chick who has a nerfed version of Midnighter's battle computer that allows her to see all of her opponents possible moves before they make them, he even momentarily took down Starscream (the Decepticon).

#50 Edited by entropy_aegis (15319 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman shown as being unbeatable in his own comics.

Snake Eyes shown as being unbeatable in his own comics.

Too Close to call

Um no,I'm sure neither is unbeatable in their own comics,Batman sure as hell aint.