Batman and Robin (Grayson and Damian) vs Batman and Robin

New dynamic duo                             vs                                               Bruce and Tim

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

" @Cosmic_Falcon said:

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

Nope,bruce spanks damian and beats dick after a good fight. tim recently thrashed damian in red robin. Team 1 should win 10/10 but i prefer the dick and damian dynamic to the bruce and tim dynamic. "

Tim can take out  Damian and can put up a good fight against Grayson and Bruce can take them both

" @entropy_aegis said:

" @Cosmic_Falcon said:

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

Nope,bruce spanks damian and beats dick after a good fight. tim recently thrashed damian in red robin. Team 1 should win 10/10 but i prefer the dick and damian dynamic to the bruce and tim dynamic. "

How good a fight do you think Dick will give Bruce? "

"Tim can take out  Damian and can put up a good fight against Grayson and Bruce can take them both "

@entropy_aegis:
That Tim who beat Damian was older, the one in the OP is younger.

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@entropy_aegis:
That Tim who beat Damian was older, the one in the OP is younger.

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You should've put it "Batman and Robin and Robin vs. Bruce." lol

Bruce and Tim take this in a heart beat

"@comicdude23 said:

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@entropy_aegis:
That Tim who beat Damian was older, the one in the OP is younger.

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Does'nt matter,the only reason why damain was able to give tim a good fight in his first appearence is cause tim was'nt even trying and in the second occasion tim was acting stupid. damian will probably end up a better fighter then the other robins,but he is'nt beating anyone here. "

" @Cosmic_Falcon said:

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

Nope,bruce spanks damian and beats dick (Hahaa) after a good fight. tim recently thrashed damian in red robin. Team 1 should win 10/10 but i prefer the dick and damian dynamic to the bruce and tim dynamic. "

" @entropy_aegis said:

" @Cosmic_Falcon said:

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

Nope,bruce spanks damian and beats dick (Hahaa) after a good fight. tim recently thrashed damian in red robin. Team 1 should win 10/10 but i prefer the dick and damian dynamic to the bruce and tim dynamic. "

Tim has gotten his ass handed to him by Damian, and will never be on equal footin' with Dick. And people have it all wrong here the winners of the fight would be Dick, and Damian. Dick knows Bruce too well, so he'll have Damian distract him while he takes out Tim. With Tim out of the fight it all goes down to Bruce vs Dick, and Damian...and not even Bruce can win that one. "

Is this Bruce and Tim vs Dick and Damian?
If it is, then I'd go with Bruce and Tim.

bruce and tim win but the new dynamic duo is alot more dynamic than the previous one.

"bruce and tim win but the new dynamic duo is alot more dynamic than the previous one. "

" @entropy_aegis: Ooohhh, because one writter wrote him winnin' one time he's suppose to be able to do it constantly? If that's the case, then I can say Dick can beat Bruce 'cause he's done that before. And that would just bring it down to Dick vs Tim...and Tim will never win that fight.
 
But let's not forget the way I explained the way Dick and Damian would actually win. It doesn't have "Damian vs Tim"...but "Dick vs Tim". Tim obviously loses leavin' Dick and Damian vs Bruce. Or Dick would take out Tim, and Bruce would take out Damian leavin' Dick and Bruce to fight. But never in any way is Tim a factor. You have to remember, this is a 2-on-2 fight. The 2 Batmen don't have to fight each other. "

" @entropy_aegis: Ooohhh, because one writter wrote him winnin' one time he's suppose to be able to do it constantly? If that's the case, then I can say Dick can beat Bruce 'cause he's done that before. And that would just bring it down to Dick vs Tim...and Tim will never win that fight.
 
But let's not forget the way I explained the way Dick and Damian would actually win. It doesn't have "Damian vs Tim"...but "Dick vs Tim". Tim obviously loses leavin' Dick and Damian vs Bruce. Or Dick would take out Tim, and Bruce would take out Damian leavin' Dick and Bruce to fight. But never in any way is Tim a factor. You have to remember, this is a 2-on-2 fight. The 2 Batmen don't have to fight each other. "

Bruce and Tim first off they work amazing together. Tim was Batman's sidekick longer than any other Robin going by comic book time not real life time. They have great chemistry, when working together they don't even need to speak they know each other so well. Dick still has to tame Damian all the time. Bruce can take Dick and Tim Damian  

"Bruce and Tim first off they work amazing together. Tim was Batman's sidekick longer than any other Robin going by comic book time not real life time. They have great chemistry, when working together they don't even need to speak they know each other so well. Dick still has to tame Damian all the time. Bruce can take Dick and Tim Damian   "

Tim already kicked Damians ass, when he let go.

Bruce solos. Tim can beat Damian one-on-one and he might beat Dick, but that's unlikely.

Im taking Dick and Damian. Bruce has never beaten Dick after he became Nightwing and they fought twice and Dick has gotten better since then. Dick's speed and agility will pose a problem and Dick quite the tactician just like Bruce but Dick will use teamwork with Damian to his advantage while Bruce will most likely take them alone like he always does. Tim could take Lil D though. But as a team I'm with the Double D's

This one handily goes to Bruce and Tim.  Damian at his current stage isn't going to beat anyone in this fight if they aren't holding back, but the lil' guy is a scrapper for sure. Bruce and Tim 10/10.
 
Grayson and Damian is an AWESOME read though. Really like the dialogue between the two, just sayin.

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

"Bruce and Tim first off they work amazing together. Tim was Batman's sidekick longer than any other Robin going by comic book time not real life time. They have great chemistry, when working together they don't even need to speak they know each other so well. Dick still has to tame Damian all the time. Bruce can take Dick and Tim Damian   "

Was'nt dick the longest? i know tim said that he knew bruce the longest (but that's quite absurd,he probably meant the longest of all those people in the room at the moment). "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

"Bruce and Tim first off they work amazing together. Tim was Batman's sidekick longer than any other Robin going by comic book time not real life time. They have great chemistry, when working together they don't even need to speak they know each other so well. Dick still has to tame Damian all the time. Bruce can take Dick and Tim Damian   "

Was'nt dick the longest? i know tim said that he knew bruce the longest (but that's quite absurd,he probably meant the longest of all those people in the room at the moment). "

bruce wins

p.s. damian is my favorite robin

" @DarcStorm said:

" @entropy_aegis: Ooohhh, because one writter wrote him winnin' one time he's suppose to be able to do it constantly? If that's the case, then I can say Dick can beat Bruce 'cause he's done that before. And that would just bring it down to Dick vs Tim...and Tim will never win that fight.
 
But let's not forget the way I explained the way Dick and Damian would actually win. It doesn't have "Damian vs Tim"...but "Dick vs Tim". Tim obviously loses leavin' Dick and Damian vs Bruce. Or Dick would take out Tim, and Bruce would take out Damian leavin' Dick and Bruce to fight. But never in any way is Tim a factor. You have to remember, this is a 2-on-2 fight. The 2 Batmen don't have to fight each other. "

The fight i mentioned was most recent,both characters were giving their best,there were no plot devices or interruptions. so yes it counts no matter what you say. dick has never beaten bruce ,so no. dick will struggle more against tim then bruce will against damian(and by using the word struggle i'm being very generous here). so tim is a non factor but damian is'nt LOL.  i'm arguably the biggest damian fan on this site ,and i much prefer the dick/damian dynmaic than the bruce/tim dynamic. but team 2 is not winning. "

" @Cosmic_Falcon said:

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

Nope,bruce spanks damian and beats dick after a good fight. tim recently thrashed damian in red robin. Team 1 should win 10/10 but i prefer the dick and damian dynamic to the bruce and tim dynamic. "

" @entropy_aegis said:

" @Cosmic_Falcon said:

" @entropy_aegis said:

" Team 1 easily. bruce solos. "

You don't think that Damian and Dick together can take Bruce? "

Nope,bruce spanks damian and beats dick after a good fight. tim recently thrashed damian in red robin. Team 1 should win 10/10 but i prefer the dick and damian dynamic to the bruce and tim dynamic. "

HAH! Penis joke "

" @entropy_aegis said:

" @DarcStorm said:

" @entropy_aegis: Ooohhh, because one writter wrote him winnin' one time he's suppose to be able to do it constantly? If that's the case, then I can say Dick can beat Bruce 'cause he's done that before. And that would just bring it down to Dick vs Tim...and Tim will never win that fight.
 
But let's not forget the way I explained the way Dick and Damian would actually win. It doesn't have "Damian vs Tim"...but "Dick vs Tim". Tim obviously loses leavin' Dick and Damian vs Bruce. Or Dick would take out Tim, and Bruce would take out Damian leavin' Dick and Bruce to fight. But never in any way is Tim a factor. You have to remember, this is a 2-on-2 fight. The 2 Batmen don't have to fight each other. "

The fight i mentioned was most recent,both characters were giving their best,there were no plot devices or interruptions. so yes it counts no matter what you say. dick has never beaten bruce ,so no. dick will struggle more against tim then bruce will against damian(and by using the word struggle i'm being very generous here). so tim is a non factor but damian is'nt LOL.  i'm arguably the biggest damian fan on this site ,and i much prefer the dick/damian dynmaic than the bruce/tim dynamic. but team 2 is not winning. "

You may think that that Damian and Tim fight means much, but actually it only proves one thing...They had 3 fights. Damian won 2 so how does Tim win this 2-on-2? If anything this further proves Tim's uselessness, because he's bein' bested by a kid.  Oh, and about Dick, and Bruce...I'm sorry do you not read comics? Ever since Dick became Nightwing, Bruce has never bested him to my knowledge, and they've fought more than once...so how has he never beaten Bruce?  And it doesn't matter who "struggles more against which Robin, fact is is that the Robins would be taken out leavin' it to be down to the Batmen. And since Bruce hasn't won against the grown-up version of Dick, how can Dick not pull out the victory?  You see, what I present to you are facts Damian has beaten Tim more tims than not, and Bruce hasn't had a win over Dick since he grew-up. So how would team1beat team2 when the facts show that they're outmatched? "

you should put grayson with tim vs bruce with damian. then you got a fight

Team 1. I respect Dick and Damien, but they can't defeat Bruce and Tim working together.

" @entropy_aegis said:

" @DarcStorm said:

" @entropy_aegis: Ooohhh, because one writter wrote him winnin' one time he's suppose to be able to do it constantly? If that's the case, then I can say Dick can beat Bruce 'cause he's done that before. And that would just bring it down to Dick vs Tim...and Tim will never win that fight.
 
But let's not forget the way I explained the way Dick and Damian would actually win. It doesn't have "Damian vs Tim"...but "Dick vs Tim". Tim obviously loses leavin' Dick and Damian vs Bruce. Or Dick would take out Tim, and Bruce would take out Damian leavin' Dick and Bruce to fight. But never in any way is Tim a factor. You have to remember, this is a 2-on-2 fight. The 2 Batmen don't have to fight each other. "

The fight i mentioned was most recent,both characters were giving their best,there were no plot devices or interruptions. so yes it counts no matter what you say. dick has never beaten bruce ,so no. dick will struggle more against tim then bruce will against damian(and by using the word struggle i'm being very generous here). so tim is a non factor but damian is'nt LOL.  i'm arguably the biggest damian fan on this site ,and i much prefer the dick/damian dynmaic than the bruce/tim dynamic. but team 2 is not winning. "

You may think that that Damian and Tim fight means much, but actually it only proves one thing...They had 3 fights. Damian won 2 so how does Tim win this 2-on-2? If anything this further proves Tim's uselessness, because he's bein' bested by a kid.  Oh, and about Dick, and Bruce...I'm sorry do you not read comics? Ever since Dick became Nightwing, Bruce has never bested him to my knowledge, and they've fought more than once...so how has he never beaten Bruce?  And it doesn't matter who "struggles more against which Robin, fact is is that the Robins would be taken out leavin' it to be down to the Batmen. And since Bruce hasn't won against the grown-up version of Dick, how can Dick not pull out the victory?  You see, what I present to you are facts Damian has beaten Tim more tims than not, and Bruce hasn't had a win over Dick since he grew-up. So how would team1beat team2 when the facts show that they're outmatched? "

" @Tim_Drake4444:  No. I'm gettin' very tired of people overratin' Tim, and he sucks. He isn't nor has he ever been a contender in any fight with anyone in the Batman family. So in this fight...he's just an extra body, with the only goal of gettin' in Bruce's way. "

Bruce and Tim would win in a fight but who cares? Its Bruce and Tim, they got more experience and are better solo and together because frankly the new duo is......new. If this was a question of whos more fun and which duo i'd rather read then hands down Dick and Damian.

" @Tim_Drake4444:  No. I'm gettin' very tired of people overratin' Tim, and he sucks. He isn't nor has he ever been a contender in any fight with anyone in the Batman family. So in this fight...he's just an extra body, with the only goal of gettin' in Bruce's way. "

" @DarcStorm said:

" @Tim_Drake4444:  No. I'm gettin' very tired of people overratin' Tim, and he sucks. He isn't nor has he ever been a contender in any fight with anyone in the Batman family. So in this fight...he's just an extra body, with the only goal of gettin' in Bruce's way. "

Tell that to his arc in Red Robin in which he takes on the Council of Spiders and later Ras al Ghul. Tim can be overrated, but in no way is he outclassed by everyone in the Bat family, and certainly not Damian. "

"@DarcStorm: That sir, is a load of bull... during Battle For A Cowl, Drake would've beaten Todd, had he not got the batarang in the chest...actually, Tim beat Jason at least once... "

" @DarcStorm: That sir, is a load of bull... during Battle For A Cowl, Drake would've beaten Todd, had he not got the batarang in the chest...actually, Tim beat Jason at least once... "

" @DarcStorm said:

" @Tim_Drake4444:  No. I'm gettin' very tired of people overratin' Tim, and he sucks. He isn't nor has he ever been a contender in any fight with anyone in the Batman family. So in this fight...he's just an extra body, with the only goal of gettin' in Bruce's way. "

Tell that to his arc in Red Robin in which he takes on the Council of Spiders and later Ras al Ghul. Tim can be overrated, but in no way is he outclassed by everyone in the Bat family, and certainly not Damian. "

" @Skies327 said:

" @DarcStorm said:

" @Tim_Drake4444:  No. I'm gettin' very tired of people overratin' Tim, and he sucks. He isn't nor has he ever been a contender in any fight with anyone in the Batman family. So in this fight...he's just an extra body, with the only goal of gettin' in Bruce's way. "

Tell that to his arc in Red Robin in which he takes on the Council of Spiders and later Ras al Ghul. Tim can be overrated, but in no way is he outclassed by everyone in the Bat family, and certainly not Damian. "

 
The whole outclassed stuff means nothing,all characters in the batfamily have their own strengths and weaknesses,and for the record tim did nothing to Ra's in red robin,Ra's was on the wrong trail right from the start.

Jea! There is far too much hype put on Tim...and he will never live up to it in my book.