Batman and Ironman vs Superman and Thor

Batman with insider suit

Thor buster Ironman

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Superman

Thor

Battlefield: Starts in an abandonned Metropolis.

Superman and Thor turned rogue and are as evil as Joker (Thor can still use Mjolnir). Batman and Ironman teamed up to save the human race from them.

No morals for all.

Batman and Ironman has 1 day prep.

Characters have base knowledge on those they know.

Who wins?

Thorbuster Armor beats the crap out of normal Thor. But I believe that's only because it drains magic; which does nothing to Superman.

Therefore, Superman should solo.

Hm, a day of prep for both Batman and Iron Man? Tough call but giving these two geniuses prep I'm leaning towards the Iron Man/Batman side.

" Thorbuster Armor beats the crap out of normal Thor. But I believe that's only because it drains magic; which does nothing to Superman.Therefore, Superman should solo. "

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                    @JediXMan said:

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                    Thorbuster Armor beats the crap out of normal Thor. But I believe that's only because it drains magic; which does nothing to Superman.Therefore, Superman should solo.

                   

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Thank you, for being realistic here.

                   

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I know this is what they all ask but... does Batman have the Kryptonite ring here? If so Team 1 wins with ease as they both have a specific tool to wipe out their opponent. Otherwise Clark could solo here.

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                    @Susanoo: if batman and iron man are allowed to build other tech or bring other tech they already have with them id give them a solid win for the sorta things they could have especially if this team 2 isnt allowed to have any prep or bring there own equipment

                   

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                    @JediXMan said:

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                    Thorbuster Armor beats the crap out of normal Thor. But I believe that's only because it drains magic; which does nothing to Superman.Therefore, Superman should solo.

                   

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Thank you, for being realistic here.

                   

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They have a day of prep. Tony has also built a tech that negated superpowers even. Batman has alot of toys as well. "

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                    Superman could dismantle them 10 times over before a regular human could even formulate a thought... let alone push a button, lift an arm, or so "OH Cra...!"

                   

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@Susanoo:
Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea, and a good post. Most writers would probably find a way to give it to team 1. I've just never bought into it. Guess I'm just too much a realist when it comes to powerhouses that move faster than the speed of light.

Truth be told, even with kryptonite on the scene, two humans regardless of suits, gadgets, paraphenelia or whatnot would be dismantled seconds before the kryptonite even took effect. Unless Batman somehow had something that slowed down time or sped up his perception and reaction time... hmmm...

If prep is involve i dont see BATMAN and Iron MAN losing .

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@Susanoo:
Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea, and a good post. Most writers would probably find a way to give it to team 1. I've just never bought into it. Guess I'm just too much a realist when it comes to powerhouses that move faster than the speed of light.

 

Truth be told, even with kryptonite on the scene, two humans regardless of suits, gadgets, paraphenelia or whatnot would be dismantled seconds before the kryptonite even took effect. Unless Batman somehow had something that slowed down time or sped up his perception and reaction time... hmmm...

                   

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Thank you. Good. I think similar to that too.

Ironman made a tech to negate superpowers. Batman also has alot of deadly tech. They'll know about the speed difference of those 2.

SuperMan and Thor I beleive

Being evil as Joker means morals are off for thor and supes. I see no reason why supes or thor wouldn't just destroy the planet.

Superman & Thor

"Thorbuster Armor beats the crap out of normal Thor. But I believe that's only because it drains magic; which does nothing to Superman.Therefore, Superman should solo. "

It does that and it has it's own power source:

And ofcourse the whole turning Thor's Mjolnir / Odinforce use(outside brute strength) as just more power for the armor that you mentioned:

And like when Thor runs under the same assumption that Tony's nothing without Thor attacking him:

Now given Thor with the Odin Force literally pounded a bump on Cap's shield with a swing of his hammer, that Odin Power is really buffing him out unintentionally, so it's doubtful Thor can replicate how he beat the Thorbuster the first time:

None o that up there. Unless there was an unknown limit to the plot item that let Tony suck on Thor's own power(that a good old absorb your best hit and multiply it 10 fold can out perform) Thor's going to be useless and I'd have my doubts on Superman doing much better with physical force since King Thor should be hitting a lot harder. Speeds the only reason I can't say the Thorbuster crushes him.

But the day of prep also comes in, I'm sure Bats could lend Stark some Kryptonite for him to rid into the suit and make it just shoot the radiation straiht out of the suit or ploty like that.

It makes no difference wether bats has kryptonite, superman is not stupid, he would just use his heat vision from a distance on bats. Then it's 2 on 1. Iron man is just a man, armor or not, Thor is a god = Thor Wins.

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@Susanoo:
Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea, and a good post. Most writers would probably find a way to give it to team 1. I've just never bought into it. Guess I'm just too much a realist when it comes to powerhouses that move faster than the speed of light.

 

Truth be told, even with kryptonite on the scene, two humans regardless of suits, gadgets, paraphenelia or whatnot would be dismantled seconds before the kryptonite even took effect. Unless Batman somehow had something that slowed down time or sped up his perception and reaction time... hmmm...

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I don't know where Batman is going to get Kryptonite from. Superman solos.

Team 2 with the key being no morals

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I don't know where Batman is going to get Kryptonite from. Superman solos.

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Batman has his own kryptonite. Also people are underating him and IM.

@jayskee said:

"thor solos "

if the prep involves kryptonite than bats and stark stomp if not supes could solo especially without morals

With a day of prep team 1 should win this.

@entropy_aegis said:

Batman and Ironman due to the one sided prep.

I think we might be underestimating the Insider suit quite a bit. It absorbs and recharges from any energy projection blasts. Both Thor and Supes would probably have to get physical. I'd say then if in a direct head on clash, if it's Thor vs. Iron and Bats vs. Supes, I'd give it to Tony and Bruce, other way around, I give it to Thor and Supes on caveat that there is no PIS in which Batman is worthy to wield the hammer (and since Caps, is, so is Bruce technically).

With prep? No way Bruce comes without a kryptonite death beam, red sun contraption or other and Tony not incorporating energy absorbtion insider suit into his armor (so any hammer/electric blows from Thor is absorbed and only the impact is there to cause damage, not the residual electricity). Hell I'd say the two would both wear heavy armor outside and insider suit inside and have the insider suit be powered by ironman tech.

Team 1.

tHE THORBUSTER WILL BUST THOR. batman is dead as soon as supes comes in. It comes down to iron man and supes. Superman wins.

Superman solos

With prep, team 1.

Thor & Superman with the morals of the Joker.

Team 2.

Thor and Superman with the morals of the Joker destroy Team 1 and then the entire planet with ease.

superman solos

As much as I reeeeeally wanna say IronBats, Supes grabs the moon and throws it into the earth so hard it falls into the sun. He then flies to Tamaran to get his freak on with the orange chicks. Thor is unneeded.

Thor or Superman would solo.

Superman and Thor take over the world in short order after the somewhat easily dispose of poor Batman and Iron Man.

With 1 day prep... Team 1 might have chance.

In a random encounter... Team 1 dies horribly.

Thor is not soloing due to tony but superman will

Superman doesn't solo. Bats has PIS equipment that takes out the sun and drains his power instantly, or something close to it (read the issue of Superman/Batman where the fanboys talk about who would win in a Supes/bats fight, great issue by the way, everyone should read it).

Also the Insider suit has super speed as well (close to Flash speed) so the tech is there. The Insider suit is the most amazing piece of equipment Bats has, he only lacks a good power source for the thing (else how else could you beat a Batman with the powers of every damn JLAer?) but Tony has that covered.

The thing is, with 1 day prep, Bats has already activated whatever PIS tech he has and has defeated/killed Superman leaving Thor to to solo. As the kid in the issue of Sup/Bat said (and i'm paraphrasing quite a bit), "he's planned this for his entire life to take down this one guy who could destroy the world". Yeah the kid admitted it was kinda PIS but when Supes asked Bruce about it "So you can beat me without magic or kryptonite?" Bruce answered answered yes and wouldn't give the details.

One question I have to ask about Thor though, wouldn't the Mjolnir no longer consider him worthy if he went evil? Sorry, not to familiar with Thor as much as the DC side and ironman.

Team 2.

@StarKiller809 said:

Batman carries Kryponite with him so that takes care of Superman and Batman and Iron Man can take on Thor, at least I think so.

A crazy mad Superman destroys bats is second. Im so sick of everyone thinking that Batman beats everyone with prep

Batman lends Tony a solid source of kryptonite.
 
Superman-buster amour?

@RainEffect: @RainEffect said:

Batman lends Tony a solid source of kryptonite. Superman-buster amour?

...Would not help Tony at all.

Team 1 wins they have prep, batman could easily get a hold of some kryptonite. So Superman doesn't solo