Batman and Iron Fist Vs. Daredevil and Shang-Chi

Another martial arts team battle to celebrate my 120th Posted Battle. Setting is the Baxter Building. The FF are out for the day. Everyone is in-character. Victory comes when both people on the opposing side are KO'ed. Who wins?

IMO, Batman is superior to Daredevil, Iron Fist is Superior to Sang-Chi, So Team 1

Iron Fist could potentially solo

Iron Fist could potentially solo

@Fetts: @joeagentofhand1: Doubtful considering that DD has stalemated him, and even beaten him once or twice.

@shroudofsorrow said:

@Fetts: @joeagentofhand1: Doubtful considering that DD has stalemated him, and even beaten him once or twice.

I am not sure if Iron Fist was using his chi at the time. With his chi he took down the helicarrier.

@joeagentofhand1: I'm not savvy on the specifics, but what I do know is that DD has beaten Iron Fist no less than two times and has stalemated him on another occasion.

Bump

Team 1 wins this in a stomp/mismatch/spite.

Batman can arguably beat Daredevil, while Iron Fist takes down Shang Chi in a really easy battle. If Batman doesn't fare well against Daredevil, Iron Fist takes him down.

To make this battle more fair, you shouldn't give Batman any gadgets, and give Iron Fist no Chi.

Vouile

@Vouile: I say again: Daredevil has beaten Iron Fist twice, and stalemated him on another occasion. So this idea that Danny can stomp like people are saying he is is ridiculous to me. Danny is not beating DD, or if he is, not easily. He is definitely not beating Daredevil backed up by Shang-Chi. Not by himself anyway.

And actually, is debatable if Batman can beat Shang-Chi. I'm not saying he can't, I'm just saying its debatable.

The way I see it: DD>Iron Fist>Batman>Shang-Chi. But I could be wrong about the second half of that.

@shroudofsorrow said:

I say again: Daredevil has beaten Iron Fist twice, and stalemated him on another occasion. So this idea that Danny can stomp like people are saying he is is ridiculous to me. Danny is not beating DD, or if he is, not easily. He is definitely not beating Daredevil backed up by Shang-Chi. Not by himself anyway.

And actually, is debatable if Batman can beat Shang-Chi. I'm not saying he can't, I'm just saying its debatable.

Logically, Iron Fist is much better in the fighting skills department than Daredevil, his energy projection supply (Chi), is so powerful, it could break a helicarrier. With the chi, he has superhuman strength, speed, durability, etc. While Daredevil, is physically weaker and not as fast.

I also never said Iron Fist would solo, like I said he could beat Daredevil rather easily when powered by the chi. Batman can beat Shang Chi...Their fighting skills are about on-par, but in this case, Batman has access to weaponry like batarangs, bombs, tear gas, ice pellets and much more. Shang-Chi won't be able to handle it, that's the reason I suggested you to change the rules.

Vouile

@Vouile: Not to sound rude, but feats tend to have more validity than "logic". DD has beaten Iron Fist twice and stalemated in another fight between the two. Now its entirely possible that Danny's Chi was not working so well during those fights, or maybe he didn't have it at all. But the fact remains that DD has beaten him twice and stalemated him at least once. This tells me that at least in H2H, DD>Iron Fist.

@shroudofsorrow said:

Not to sound rude, but feats tend to have more validity than "logic". DD has beaten Iron Fist twice and stalemated in another fight between the two. Now its entirely possible that Danny's Chi was not working so well during those fights, or maybe he didn't have it at all. But the fact remains that DD has beaten him twice and stalemated him at least once. This tells me that at least in H2H, DD>Iron Fist.

It's fine, you are not rude, after all this is a debate. :P But to be honest...But I will mention, in the official MARVEL powergrids :P, Iron Fist is a better fighter than Daredevil, after all he had to defeat a dragon to gain his chi-based powers. Iron Fist wins this fight either way, he is just too amped with his chi, he caught a bullet in the air.

But you are entitled to your opinion and I will respect that, but I will have to respectfully disagree with you on this.

Vouile

Shang chi is a bit of a weak link IMHO,,,otherwise I would be saying team daredevil FTW,,,,Matt could beat IF or batman one at a time but not at the same time,,I think Shang chi would fall leaving Matt vulnerable ..guess I gotta go with team one but anyone saying bats or Danny could beat Matt easily doesn't know shit about daredevil or they are fan wanking

@Bane_of_sith: Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. DD has beaten Iron Fist twice, so I don't know how people can seriously say he wins.

@Supreme Marvel: Yeah, it would be a good fight. Who do you think wins?

Shang Chi beats Batman (Shamg Chi is expert in ALL martial arts, Batman in 300) DD and Iron Fist stalemate and then team 2 beats Iron fist. Team 2

Team 1 ftw

@factmaster8: if you have read all the characters comics DD stands out hand to hand the most an iron fist to cause his chi makes him a powerhouse. batman is always backed up by gadgets but its always so random you cant think he would actually have something to take out dd. I've read a ton of batman an i cant understand where all this batman love is coming from when it comes to battles. is it the dark knight returns or what? I don't get it