#1 Edited by The_Hitchhiker (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules:

  1. Win by knockout or incapacitation.
  2. Batman and Deathstroke are Pre-Flashpoint.\
  3. Cap has his shield and Deathstroke has a Promethium sword. Batman and DD have standard equipment.
  4. Starting distance 10 meters.

Setting:

Crime alley.

#2 Posted by MrValance (570 posts) - - Show Bio

well, deathsroke has beat batman before and DD has beat captain America before....unless this goes cap v deathstroke and DD v batman-wait ok, so DD would beat batman then help DS beat cap so team darestroke

#3 Posted by nerdchore (2881 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#4 Posted by Oni_Bane (2068 posts) - - Show Bio

DD and DS

#5 Edited by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

#6 Posted by MrValance (570 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

honestly I want to say any team with captain America wins , but recently DD took cap AFTER cap used a weapon that messed with DD powers, he beat cap like half blind recently,so.....

#7 Posted by sync1 (3060 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#8 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side said:

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

honestly I want to say any team with captain America wins , but recently DD took cap AFTER cap used a weapon that messed with DD powers, he beat cap like half blind recently,so.....

Yet it seems inconsistent with many of their fights. In the past,sometimes one was controlled and the other wasn't,but there wasn't exactly a clear victor. But more importantly,Daredevil has remarked many times about Captain America's physical advantage ,and it always gave Cap the edge in their fights (for example,Daredevil would hurt Cap with his attacks,yet Cap would send him flying with 1).

It's like me saying that Red Arrow can beat Deathstroke just because he hit him quite a few times. Or that Hawkeye can take Cap based off of one of their fights. It just seems like a bit of a low showing imo.

Not that Daredevil doesn't have his radar sense advantage and agility over Cap,but still....everyone just loves to bring up that fight.

#9 Posted by reaverlation (18222 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

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#10 Posted by Wolverine08 (47660 posts) - - Show Bio

Toss up.

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#11 Posted by Night4345 (6904 posts) - - Show Bio

Darestroke.

#12 Posted by DBVSE7 (5847 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to be that guy, and say DS solos.

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#13 Posted by UrbanChill (233 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2

#14 Posted by dagmar_merrill (11968 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by MrValance (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrvalance said:

@twix_right_side said:

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

honestly I want to say any team with captain America wins , but recently DD took cap AFTER cap used a weapon that messed with DD powers, he beat cap like half blind recently,so.....

Yet it seems inconsistent with many of their fights. In the past,sometimes one was controlled and the other wasn't,but there wasn't exactly a clear victor. But more importantly,Daredevil has remarked many times about Captain America's physical advantage ,and it always gave Cap the edge in their fights (for example,Daredevil would hurt Cap with his attacks,yet Cap would send him flying with 1).

It's like me saying that Red Arrow can beat Deathstroke just because he hit him quite a few times. Or that Hawkeye can take Cap based off of one of their fights. It just seems like a bit of a low showing imo.

Not that Daredevil doesn't have his radar sense advantage and agility over Cap,but still....everyone just loves to bring up that fight.

I used it because its their most recent fight and nothing after has contradicted it. characters grow and learn things in universe, ie spiderman with way of the spider, or become stronger/ more powerful like wonderman . usually that status quo stays until something contradicts it( like wonderman) which as far as I know hasnt happened for these two, but that's just IMO

#16 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side said:

@mrvalance said:

@twix_right_side said:

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

honestly I want to say any team with captain America wins , but recently DD took cap AFTER cap used a weapon that messed with DD powers, he beat cap like half blind recently,so.....

Yet it seems inconsistent with many of their fights. In the past,sometimes one was controlled and the other wasn't,but there wasn't exactly a clear victor. But more importantly,Daredevil has remarked many times about Captain America's physical advantage ,and it always gave Cap the edge in their fights (for example,Daredevil would hurt Cap with his attacks,yet Cap would send him flying with 1).

It's like me saying that Red Arrow can beat Deathstroke just because he hit him quite a few times. Or that Hawkeye can take Cap based off of one of their fights. It just seems like a bit of a low showing imo.

Not that Daredevil doesn't have his radar sense advantage and agility over Cap,but still....everyone just loves to bring up that fight.

I used it because its their most recent fight and nothing after has contradicted it. characters grow and learn things in universe, ie spiderman with way of the spider, or become stronger/ more powerful like wonderman . usually that status quo stays until something contradicts it( like wonderman) which as far as I know hasnt happened for these two, but that's just IMO

So what has changed with Daredevil? Because,if anything,Cap's feats have improved over the years,not only in the physical gap between the two,but also an increase in skill (although Daredevil might have that edge,but I don't read a whole bunch of DD,so I can't say). There was no drastic power increase. And considering that Cap has faced characters like Batroc (countless times,who has incredible agility that borders on superhuman) and Gambit and has done fine,I just don't think that he should really be humiliated in such a way. I'm wondering when they're gonna have Punisher beat up Cap with 1 arm,because that seems to be the route that they are taking. But at the same time...again,the history between the two says otherwise. I see your point,though. I just think that Cap has learned a lot more in his time in the present,especially in recent years.

#17 Posted by Jayc1324 (15767 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil can't beat anyone on team one so team one wins.

#18 Posted by OreoAssassin (7544 posts) - - Show Bio

People seem to be under-estimating DD. He'll give anyone on Team 1 hell before going down and we all know Slade takes the majority over Bruce and Steve (but not easily). Bruce and Steve is a very dangerous and strong duo. Its definetly a toss up like Wolvie08 said

#19 Posted by MrValance (570 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrvalance said:

@twix_right_side said:

@mrvalance said:

@twix_right_side said:

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

honestly I want to say any team with captain America wins , but recently DD took cap AFTER cap used a weapon that messed with DD powers, he beat cap like half blind recently,so.....

Yet it seems inconsistent with many of their fights. In the past,sometimes one was controlled and the other wasn't,but there wasn't exactly a clear victor. But more importantly,Daredevil has remarked many times about Captain America's physical advantage ,and it always gave Cap the edge in their fights (for example,Daredevil would hurt Cap with his attacks,yet Cap would send him flying with 1).

It's like me saying that Red Arrow can beat Deathstroke just because he hit him quite a few times. Or that Hawkeye can take Cap based off of one of their fights. It just seems like a bit of a low showing imo.

Not that Daredevil doesn't have his radar sense advantage and agility over Cap,but still....everyone just loves to bring up that fight.

I used it because its their most recent fight and nothing after has contradicted it. characters grow and learn things in universe, ie spiderman with way of the spider, or become stronger/ more powerful like wonderman . usually that status quo stays until something contradicts it( like wonderman) which as far as I know hasnt happened for these two, but that's just IMO

So what has changed with Daredevil? Because,if anything,Cap's feats have improved over the years,not only in the physical gap between the two,but also an increase in skill (although Daredevil might have that edge,but I don't read a whole bunch of DD,so I can't say). There was no drastic power increase. And considering that Cap has faced characters like Batroc (countless times,who has incredible agility that borders on superhuman) and Gambit and has done fine,I just don't think that he should really be humiliated in such a way. I'm wondering when they're gonna have Punisher beat up Cap with 1 arm,because that seems to be the route that they are taking. But at the same time...again,the history between the two says otherwise. I see your point,though. I just think that Cap has learned a lot more in his time in the present,especially in recent years.

I haven't been reading DD consistently but from what I did read and according to the talk of the town is he has become a total boss( the same seems to be true with moon knight) and I think the punisher is a worthy opponent for cap, although the punisher would never lay a finger on him( cap was,IS, a huge inspiration and a fellow marine of a higher rank) but originally I kinda agreed I think cap SHOULD win in a fight but I do my best to follow the facts to be fair

#20 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio

@twix_right_side said:

@mrvalance said:

@twix_right_side said:

@mrvalance said:

@twix_right_side said:

Team 1.

Either person from Team 1 can take Daredevil.

And Captain America can take Deathstroke (and vice versa).

Batman.....cannot beat Deathstroke in my opinion.

honestly I want to say any team with captain America wins , but recently DD took cap AFTER cap used a weapon that messed with DD powers, he beat cap like half blind recently,so.....

Yet it seems inconsistent with many of their fights. In the past,sometimes one was controlled and the other wasn't,but there wasn't exactly a clear victor. But more importantly,Daredevil has remarked many times about Captain America's physical advantage ,and it always gave Cap the edge in their fights (for example,Daredevil would hurt Cap with his attacks,yet Cap would send him flying with 1).

It's like me saying that Red Arrow can beat Deathstroke just because he hit him quite a few times. Or that Hawkeye can take Cap based off of one of their fights. It just seems like a bit of a low showing imo.

Not that Daredevil doesn't have his radar sense advantage and agility over Cap,but still....everyone just loves to bring up that fight.

I used it because its their most recent fight and nothing after has contradicted it. characters grow and learn things in universe, ie spiderman with way of the spider, or become stronger/ more powerful like wonderman . usually that status quo stays until something contradicts it( like wonderman) which as far as I know hasnt happened for these two, but that's just IMO

So what has changed with Daredevil? Because,if anything,Cap's feats have improved over the years,not only in the physical gap between the two,but also an increase in skill (although Daredevil might have that edge,but I don't read a whole bunch of DD,so I can't say). There was no drastic power increase. And considering that Cap has faced characters like Batroc (countless times,who has incredible agility that borders on superhuman) and Gambit and has done fine,I just don't think that he should really be humiliated in such a way. I'm wondering when they're gonna have Punisher beat up Cap with 1 arm,because that seems to be the route that they are taking. But at the same time...again,the history between the two says otherwise. I see your point,though. I just think that Cap has learned a lot more in his time in the present,especially in recent years.

I haven't been reading DD consistently but from what I did read and according to the talk of the town is he has become a total boss( the same seems to be true with moon knight) and I think the punisher is a worthy opponent for cap, although the punisher would never lay a finger on him( cap was,IS, a huge inspiration and a fellow marine of a higher rank) but originally I kinda agreed I think cap SHOULD win in a fight but I do my best to follow the facts to be fair

Well I see your point.

But still,I've just seen better from Steve in most areas.

Fair enough.

#21 Posted by krauser99 (851 posts) - - Show Bio

Bat/Cap FTW.

#22 Posted by TT_4_Humanity (135 posts) - - Show Bio

we all know Slade takes the majority over Bruce and Steve (but not easily)

We do?