Batgirl vs Wolverine
Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)
"Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist.
Cassandra, with her move-reading and bullet-dodging self would have no problem with wolverine. His skeleton might absorb a lot of damage he would receive but it won't stop his brain from rocking against the back of his skull and causing a KO.
"Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it."Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
"Vance Astro said:I don't believe that for one second...have you seen some one floor him with a round house?"Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it.""Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
I like this Batgirl character shes very interesting.
Gambler said:
"Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"
yea a case can be made and she can read her opponents moves.
"erik said:lol got scans?"She can't hit him that hard. It took the Hulk to do that."A deer knocked him out."
"Karnak can read opponents moves and see their weak spots and Black Panther beat him in one move.I like this Batgirl character shes very interesting.
Gambler said:"Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)""
yea a case can be made and she can read her opponents moves.
"No she doesn't. If she does, then you can prove it with a scan."Strength
She kicks a hole through a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl002-15.jpg
Easily beats down a metahuman strong enough to casually punch through walls and bust through train cars.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-07.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-13.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-20.jpg
Beats a metahuman around with enough force to leave dents in a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p20.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p21.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p22.jpg
After a few kicks, she breaks through three-inch quartz, taking out multiple SWAT members in the process.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-17.jpg
During a training session, she shatters multiple wooden (presumably) dummies with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...l021-02-03.jpg
While fighting Shiva, she breaks through brick structures.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02517.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02518.jpg
Batman instructs Batgirl to KO a superhuman (should he wake up) with enough force to destroy a normal skull, which she does with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_02.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_03.jpg
Without looking, she backfists someone with enough force to flip them over backwards.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...35kebbin10.jpg
She KO's a large telepathic monster with one punch.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...41kebbin19.jpg
In training, with a flip kick, she used enough force to make Onyx fly several meters and break a sofa in half.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl60-05.jpg
"Swagga Boy said:"Karnak can read opponents moves and see their weak spots and Black Panther beat him in one move."I like this Batgirl character shes very interesting.
Gambler said:"Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)""
yea a case can be made and she can read her opponents moves.
isnt BP like the master of H2H combat in the MU?
"Gambler said:Who in his rogues gallery can be compared to Batgirl?"Vance Astro said:I don't believe that for one second...have you seen some one floor him with a round house?""Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it.""Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
"Vance Astro said:He's A master but not THE master.Wolverine is also a master."Swagga Boy said:"Karnak can read opponents moves and see their weak spots and Black Panther beat him in one move."I like this Batgirl character shes very interesting.
Gambler said:"Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)""
yea a case can be made and she can read her opponents moves.
isnt BP like the master of H2H combat in the MU?"
"erik said:"No she doesn't. If she does, then you can prove it with a scan."Strength
She kicks a hole through a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl002-15.jpg
Easily beats down a metahuman strong enough to casually punch through walls and bust through train cars.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-07.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-13.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-20.jpg
Beats a metahuman around with enough force to leave dents in a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p20.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p21.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p22.jpg
After a few kicks, she breaks through three-inch quartz, taking out multiple SWAT members in the process.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-17.jpg
During a training session, she shatters multiple wooden (presumably) dummies with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...l021-02-03.jpg
While fighting Shiva, she breaks through brick structures.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02517.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02518.jpg
Batman instructs Batgirl to KO a superhuman (should he wake up) with enough force to destroy a normal skull, which she does with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_02.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_03.jpg
Without looking, she backfists someone with enough force to flip them over backwards.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...35kebbin10.jpg
She KO's a large telepathic monster with one punch.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...41kebbin19.jpg
In training, with a flip kick, she used enough force to make Onyx fly several meters and break a sofa in half.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl60-05.jpg"
Do you guys know how many punches Hulk gave Wolverine to the head? One punch should have knocked him unconscious but he was still conscious and had atleast half a dozen punches from Hulk to turn his brain to mush. Then with one last strong punch, he knocked him out of the ball park. Of course during his fight with the x men, Wolverine came back in no time.
Wolverine wins against batgirl because of his endurance and healing factor. Batgirl loses.
"erik said:Wow. Nice Scans Dude"No she doesn't. If she does, then you can prove it with a scan."Strength
She kicks a hole through a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl002-15.jpg
Easily beats down a metahuman strong enough to casually punch through walls and bust through train cars.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-07.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-13.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-20.jpg
Beats a metahuman around with enough force to leave dents in a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p20.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p21.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p22.jpg
After a few kicks, she breaks through three-inch quartz, taking out multiple SWAT members in the process.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-17.jpg
During a training session, she shatters multiple wooden (presumably) dummies with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...l021-02-03.jpg
While fighting Shiva, she breaks through brick structures.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02517.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02518.jpg
Batman instructs Batgirl to KO a superhuman (should he wake up) with enough force to destroy a normal skull, which she does with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_02.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_03.jpg
Without looking, she backfists someone with enough force to flip them over backwards.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...35kebbin10.jpg
She KO's a large telepathic monster with one punch.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...41kebbin19.jpg
In training, with a flip kick, she used enough force to make Onyx fly several meters and break a sofa in half.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl60-05.jpg"
"She can't hit him that hard. It took the Hulk to do that."It took the Hulk to turn his brain to mush which, really anyone with super-strength could do. Wolverine's adamantium skull doesn't stop his brain from rolling when he gets struck in the head. Ex. if you fill a balloon with water, hang it from a stick and hit it (being careful not to break it) the water inside will slosh whereas, if you hang a coconut (greater density than the human skull) from a stick and hit it the insides will still slosh (though you might hurt your hand). Such is it with a regular skull and an adamantium skull. It's the inside that counts.
"Vance Astro said:Nobody but she's a girl with peak human strength if that.Daredevil who was using a 450 pound weight as a staff and tossed it 10 feet hit Wolverine in the face with a dumbell and he fell back on to a sword and was still conscious."Gambler said:Who in his rogues gallery can be compared to Batgirl?""Vance Astro said:I don't believe that for one second...have you seen some one floor him with a round house?""Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it.""Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
"Do you guys know how many punches Hulk gave Wolverine to the head? One punch should have knocked him unconscious but he was still conscious and had atleast half a dozen punches from Hulk to turn his brain to mush. Then with one last strong punch, he knocked him out of the ball park. Of course during his fight with the x men, Wolverine came back in no time.
Wolverine wins against batgirl because of his endurance and healing factor. Batgirl loses."
"Kimikirai said:"erik said:Wow. Nice Scans Dude""No she doesn't. If she does, then you can prove it with a scan."Strength
She kicks a hole through a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl002-15.jpg
Easily beats down a metahuman strong enough to casually punch through walls and bust through train cars.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-07.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-13.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl003-20.jpg
Beats a metahuman around with enough force to leave dents in a brick wall.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p17.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p18.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p19.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p20.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p21.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl10p22.jpg
After a few kicks, she breaks through three-inch quartz, taking out multiple SWAT members in the process.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-14.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-16.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...girl019-17.jpg
During a training session, she shatters multiple wooden (presumably) dummies with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...l021-02-03.jpg
While fighting Shiva, she breaks through brick structures.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02517.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...read/02518.jpg
Batman instructs Batgirl to KO a superhuman (should he wake up) with enough force to destroy a normal skull, which she does with ease.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_02.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...irl_033_03.jpg
Without looking, she backfists someone with enough force to flip them over backwards.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...35kebbin10.jpg
She KO's a large telepathic monster with one punch.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...41kebbin19.jpg
In training, with a flip kick, she used enough force to make Onyx fly several meters and break a sofa in half.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...tgirl60-05.jpg"
I didnt look at them I dont wanna spoil anything that i havent read yet lol. I did read the issue when she beat the meta human tho that was pretty good.
"Gambler said:She kicked through a wall, never seen a deer do something like that. Hence the math is simple"Vance Astro said:Nobody but she's a girl with peak human strength if that.Daredevil who was using a 450 pound weight as a staff and tossed it 10 feet hit Wolverine in the face with a dumbell and he fell back on to a sword and was still conscious.""Gambler said:Who in his rogues gallery can be compared to Batgirl?""Vance Astro said:I don't believe that for one second...have you seen some one floor him with a round house?""Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it.""Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
Deer<Batgirl
If a Deer can knockout Logan then Batgirl can.
"Vance Astro said:Bad writing. Just like how BP held SS in an arm lock."Gambler said:She kicked through a wall, never seen a deer do something like that. Hence the math is simple"Vance Astro said:Nobody but she's a girl with peak human strength if that.Daredevil who was using a 450 pound weight as a staff and tossed it 10 feet hit Wolverine in the face with a dumbell and he fell back on to a sword and was still conscious.""Gambler said:Who in his rogues gallery can be compared to Batgirl?""Vance Astro said:I don't believe that for one second...have you seen some one floor him with a round house?""Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it.""Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
Deer<Batgirl
If a Deer can knockout Logan then Batgirl can.
"
"Vance Astro said:Moon Knight kicked through a wall too..I don't think he can knock Wolverine out with a kick though...even if he stood there and didn't move."Gambler said:She kicked through a wall, never seen a deer do something like that. Hence the math is simple"Vance Astro said:Nobody but she's a girl with peak human strength if that.Daredevil who was using a 450 pound weight as a staff and tossed it 10 feet hit Wolverine in the face with a dumbell and he fell back on to a sword and was still conscious.""Gambler said:Who in his rogues gallery can be compared to Batgirl?""Vance Astro said:I don't believe that for one second...have you seen some one floor him with a round house?""Gambler said:She wouldn't have to use a bare fist. A roundhouse to the temple could do it.""Cassandra Cain has the skill to defeat Wolverine. But I can see a case being made for both fighters. I'll go with Bats simply because she should be faster and can read her opponents moves (I think)"But how is she going to put Wolvie down in a way that constitutes a win.I have never seen one of Marvel's top fighters knock him out with bare fist."
Deer<Batgirl
If a Deer can knockout Logan then Batgirl can.
"
"Do you guys know how many punches Hulk gave Wolverine to the head? One punch should have knocked him unconscious but he was still conscious and had atleast half a dozen punches from Hulk to turn his brain to mush. Then with one last strong punch, he knocked him out of the ball park. Of course during his fight with the x men, Wolverine came back in no time.
Wolverine wins against batgirl because of his endurance and healing factor. Batgirl loses."
Wolverine taking hits from Hulk is plain PIS.
Captain America also took hits from Hulk and even JUDO threw Hulk REALLY far. Spiderman has taken hits from Hulk.
Is this really believable? Hulk, who has thunderclapped a meteor, lifted a mountain, beat the Destroyer powered by Asgardians.. cannot KO the Wolverine while Spiderman and a Deer can? 0_o
Reminds me when Deathstroke stabbed the Flash by timing where he would be or when Spiderman beat the Firelord. Its an inconsistency.
EITHER WAY
Wolverine can't lay a hit on Cassandra, who is fast enough, smart enough, senses strong enough to dodge sniper bullets without looking.
"Hedatary said:Why quote this...it's all wrong."Do you guys know how many punches Hulk gave Wolverine to the head? One punch should have knocked him unconscious but he was still conscious and had atleast half a dozen punches from Hulk to turn his brain to mush. Then with one last strong punch, he knocked him out of the ball park. Of course during his fight with the x men, Wolverine came back in no time."
Wolverine wins against batgirl because of his endurance and healing factor. Batgirl loses."
Wolverine taking hits from Hulk is plain PIS.
Captain America also took hits from Hulk and even JUDO threw Hulk REALLY far. Spiderman has taken hits from Hulk.
Is this really believable? Hulk, who has thunderclapped a meteor, lifted a mountain, beat the Destroyer powered by Asgardians.. cannot KO the Hulk while Spiderman and a Deer can? 0_o
Reminds me when Deathstroke stabbed the Flash by timing where he would be or when Spiderman beat the Firelord. Its an inconsistency.
EITHER WAY
Wolverine can't lay a hit on Cassandra, who is fast enough, smart enough, senses strong enough to dodge sniper bullets without looking.
"Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"I'm going to save this quote for the future:P
@Hedatary & Vance: Lmao, you guys are arguing with a something that so obviously isn't an argument, why waste your time?
"Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"The deer thing has to be bad writing though.If Daredevil couldn't knock him out with a metal weight there is no way a dear can.Which also brings me too...The Hulkbuster armor getting lose and out of Tony's control and slamming an armored car on Logan until it made a crater...When the Hulkbuster stopped he was still conscious.
"Gambler said:Was it hitting his head or body? You are going to knock somebody out if you are punching their leg."Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"The deer thing has to be bad writing though.If Daredevil couldn't knock him out with a metal weight there is no way a dear can.Which also brings me too...The Hulkbuster armor getting lose and out of Tony's control and slamming an armored car on Logan until it made a crater...When the Hulkbuster stopped he was still conscious."
"Vance Astro said:His entire body..including is head...you can tell it was hitting his face because it was all scratched up and his head was turned."Gambler said:Was it hitting his head or body? You are going to knock somebody out if you are punching their leg.""Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"The deer thing has to be bad writing though.If Daredevil couldn't knock him out with a metal weight there is no way a dear can.Which also brings me too...The Hulkbuster armor getting lose and out of Tony's control and slamming an armored car on Logan until it made a crater...When the Hulkbuster stopped he was still conscious."
"Vance Astro said:Dude, from pain alone anyone can be knocked out."Gambler said:Was it hitting his head or body? You are going to knock somebody out if you are punching their leg.""Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"The deer thing has to be bad writing though.If Daredevil couldn't knock him out with a metal weight there is no way a dear can.Which also brings me too...The Hulkbuster armor getting lose and out of Tony's control and slamming an armored car on Logan until it made a crater...When the Hulkbuster stopped he was still conscious."
"@Hedatary & Vance: Lmao, you guys are arguing with a something that so obviously isn't an argument, why waste your time?"I'm not arguing with Hedatary..I didn't even address him.
"Gambler said:Location Location Location. The Deer tagged Logan right on the chin, ask any fighter and they'll tell you thats like turning off a light switch. The Hulk just went with brute strength to the side of his head. Cassandra as the speed, power, and knowhow to knock Wolverine out. She knows where to hit someone and with what amount of force."Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"The deer thing has to be bad writing though.If Daredevil couldn't knock him out with a metal weight there is no way a dear can.Which also brings me too...The Hulkbuster armor getting lose and out of Tony's control and slamming an armored car on Logan until it made a crater...When the Hulkbuster stopped he was still conscious."
"Nobody said:I didn't even know he was arguing with me...and Vance says he isn't so...."Vance Astro said:His entire body..including is head...you can tell it was hitting his face because it was all scratched up and his head was turned.""Gambler said:Was it hitting his head or body? You are going to knock somebody out if you are punching their leg.""Its always bad writing when your on the losing end :P"The deer thing has to be bad writing though.If Daredevil couldn't knock him out with a metal weight there is no way a dear can.Which also brings me too...The Hulkbuster armor getting lose and out of Tony's control and slamming an armored car on Logan until it made a crater...When the Hulkbuster stopped he was still conscious."
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