Batgirl VS Chunin Exam Sasuke

Cass could get one shotted by lions barrage let alone chidori, cass isn't as slow as people are making her out to be but she's WAY out of her league here.

Sasuke

lee broke the sound barrier in the fight with gaara,, but chunin sasuke isn't as fast as lee and He hadn't mastered the sharigan that well at the chunin exams. Sasuke however will be way faster than cain and has multiple jutsus in which to work with making this a spite thread... Cain is great but really not in the same league as even the lower level naruto characters...

The curse mark however is a weakness that cain could exploit if he appears hurt on exerts himself in anyway...

Even Choji could intercept Zaku's Supersonic attack. Academy Naruto was evading two Chunin at blur speeds after painting the Hokage Monument.

Sasuke is on another level from Cass.

Sasuke

Somehow I missed this post. Thanks for the offer but I think I'll politely decline. This Sasuke doest' have enough feats for a CaV and I'm not interested in street level CaV for now.

Don't too much about Batgirl except that her feats are pretty crazy for a regular human. Still going with Sasuke.

It did? funny, because Slade didn't managed to land one single hit on her, lol.

She had trouble Body-Reading him, as well as Ravager, but she still did it, against both.

I honestly don't know, why people here are overrating the speed of sound, and the super-sonic concept, so much...even bullets fired from regular hand-guns travel faster than the speed of sound, and Cass routinely dodges those after they've been fired, with ease:

Another exemple:

And even bullets fired from snipers, which travel alot faster than bullets fired from regular hand-guns:

Oh, and here's the two "amazing" feats, that everyone performs in Naruto, and that get so overrated...moving as a blurr, and moving faster than one can react:

Both of which, Cass has performed dozens of times.

Why?

@leo-343: Explain why.

Going with cass here.

She's dealt with far worse than chunin exam "ninja"

Sasuke without much trouble.

Lady Shiva specifically noted Cass doesn't use her gear much when she fights. Which is supported by her consistent actions in combat. So gear shouldn't be a big factor.

This thread hurts me so bad. Cassandra gets stomped.

Sharingan gives Sasuke vastly superior pre-cog, he can copy and modify her moves at a glance.

That and he's fought faster opponents like Haku, Orochimaru, Kakashi and surprised them all with his speed. All of those people are vastly faster than sound.

Cassandra Cain's been tagged by the likes of Nightwing. It's not a comparison. Dodging bullets is nice, but every street leveler reacts to bullets.

Sasuke still wins.

Sasuke

" Sharingan gives Sasuke vastly superior pre-cog, he can copy and modify her moves at a glance. "

Nice, do you know who can also do that? Cass.

I'm talking about this:

And this:

Also this:

And this:

Sasuke does not have a advantage with his pre-cog, since Cass can pretty much do the same thing.

" That and he's fought faster opponents like Haku, Orochimaru, Kakashi and surprised them all with his speed. All of those people are vastly faster than sound. "

1) Please, Kakashi and Orochimaru could easly oneshot Sasuke at this stage of his life, he only started to get on thse guys level, after the Shippuden saga started.

2) Cassandra herself is faster than sound.

" Cassandra Cain's been tagged by the likes of Nightwing. It's not a comparison. Dodging bullets is nice, but every street leveler reacts to bullets. "

Right, once!...on a non-sensical stallemate...she has danced circles around him without getting touched, and disarmed him all without even trying to fight back...on another instance, Nightwing himself admitted that because of Cassandra's Body-Reading, he knows that he can't touch her...and appart from those instances, Cass has oneshotted Nightwing on 3 different occasions...also, i'm sure that you don't want to get into a debate about their overall showings, on which the gap between them, it's even bigger, than on their 1-on-1 encounters.

And most streets don't react to a bullet's speed consistently...what they do, it's dodging the gun's aim, when the bullet it's fired, they had already moved away from the bullet's path, to do that, all you need is to have faster reflexes than the shooter.

@leo-343: Not to debate, but reaction wise:

Bullets. The average bullet travels at 2,500 feet per second (around1,700 mph). If you reacted to the sound of the gun going off and required 0.20 seconds (twice that of the fastest Olympic sprinters) to react, then you would need to be at least 500 feet away to successfully dodge a bullet.

Reacting to bullets(actually bullet timing, not aim dodging) would require a supersonic reaction time, especially if it was from a highpowerd rifle or machine gun.

@leo-343: I didn't say she did, but a slower character can react and tag a faster one with timing and skill, because she has reacted to a bullet, she could react to Sasuke.

Nope, every run of the mill street leveler can dodge a gun's aim!...but that's completely different from actually dodging a bullet...which yes, implies having supersonic reactions.

@leo-343: Actually there are many highpowered rifles that do shoot very fast. You can simply google supersonic bullet and pull up some examples.

@leo-343: I'm not making a case for Batgirl, I'm correcting your incorrect statement/implication that bullets don't move at supersonic speeds.

And how are you goin to prove, that Sasuke moves faster than a bullet? has he ever dodged any? no, he hasn't!

Actually, i would argue that sniper-bullets travel faster than Sasuke's attacks, and Cass has dodged those with her back turned to the shooter and without lokking.

She can dodge multiple bullets fired at her, which all travel at supersonic speeds, but she cannot fight at supersonic speeds?

Batgirl fans in as bad shape as Solid Snake fans..... muahahaha

Actually 2 Tomoe Sharingan does give precog. Sasuke had it when he fought Orochimaru. Second even if Orochimaru was holding back here do you see how fast hes going? Sasuke can keep up just fine.

Look at the scan above, it's the same thing as dodging multiple punches or kicks, and at supersonic speeds.

Right, sure, whatever you say man, whatever you say...

Need to re-read the Chunin Exams to make a call. Its been a while since I've read pre-Shippuden Naruto.

Sasuke quite easily

Shh. Just admit it. Cass is MFTL.

@leo-343: I like to see more evidence and actual points to back up this side of the argument before deciding outright that one stomps the other. Cassandra used to fighting superpowered beings, Sasukes never fought anyone that can predict his movements while Cass has. Not to mention, much like Rose his precognition has it's disadvantages. Speed being the main one, if his opponent is faster than his eyes can keep up with the sharingan is useless because he's got to be both fast enough to see it coming and react accordingly. I dont think this will be any easier for Sasuke than will for her. He may have the advantage her though because of his long ranged attacks.

@leo-343: Please excuse me I wasnt at all implying Sasuke is not used to fighting people with super powers, just a reminder Cass fights monsters and super beings on a regular bases not just h2h fighters. Some people make that mistake.

Ok you went from saying she cant fight at super powered speeds to saying "Ok, bullets move at supersonic speed. Sasuke still stomps Batgirl badly." now back to saying "Cassandra Cain doesn't fight at supersonic speeds"

1st, prove Sasuke is supersonic. He didn't pull of the speed Lee did after opening the gates and pounding Gaara around the room like a ragdoll, he merely out ran his sand. We're calling Sasuke super sonic because of what feat? Moving faster than people's eyes can follow is something Cass and even Bruce does on a regular bases. And the thing about Lee is pretty much what I said, but do you remember the fight? He was trying to see through Lee's move, but there was not "trick" to it and that's why the sharingan didnt work.

Where's your proof? I still dont see any scans or anything backing this claim up. You talk a good game, but where's this "HE does" move at super sonic speeds come from? You havent backed any of these statement with any type of facts or evidence. Prove it.

For the Supersonic speed thing: Sasuke dodged Zaku's Supersonic Sound Wave, and even if you argue it was only due to Sharingan pre cog, we see him just standing there right as Zaku does the attack, and Sasuke has enough time not only to dodge but also to pick up Naruto, and Sakura and get them to safety.

@valarmelkor: And wasn't Gaara's sand capable of reacting to a point plank explosion when he was a kid? That's faster than at least mach 6, right? Both post training Sasuke and Lee were out-reacting that too.

There is no second paragraph. Just one senetence of you saying "Bullets dont move as fast as Sasuke" once again with no evidence or any type of logic to back it up.

Explain how this:

Gallery

Is any different from this ^

The fastest Sasuke was ever shown to move throughout the entirety of part 1 and it doesn't really trump anything Cass has done.

Yeah.

@leo-343 said:

Comment doesn't even make sense. Just because they're from the sound village doesnt mean they move at the speed of sound. All of their abilties are, however, based on sound. Lee actually got hit by the sound from Dosu's gauntlet because he couldn't "dodge sound" as Dosu said, so saying he's faster than sound with the weights on is actually a false statement.