@Porlos: You realize if Laura's lung was pierced that is an instant KO Deadpool did it to Wolverine to take him out it fills your lungs with blood and you drown are you not a doctor? You should know this stuff
" @Porlos:You realize if Laura's lung was pierced that is an instant KO Deadpool did it to Wolverine to take him out it fills your lungs with blood and you drown are you not a doctor? You should know this stuff "
Wrong. She had her organs carved up by Lady Deathstrike and did just fine. See her organs hanging out? Yet she is stll in the game. Her healing factor is better than Wolverine's.
Notice how CIS plays a major role? She's got X-23 defeated but instead of finishing her off she stands around talking letting her recover. Brilliant ;)
That obvious PIS considering her HF has NEVER been that fast before and should should not even have been able to talk with all those organs ripped out.
" That obvious PIS considering her HF has NEVER been that fast before and should should not even have been able to talk with all those organs ripped out. "
It has been that fast. She was just chatting with 1 arm completely lobbed off, the other one half lobbed off. I've shown scans of her fighting while being shot by machine gun fire from all directions...do you have any idea how good of a healing factor she would need to outregen the damage of multiple machine guns? Its more than Cassie can deal out, thats for sure.
Notice how CIS plays a major role? She's got X-23 defeated but instead of finishing her off she stands around talking letting her recover. Brilliant ;)
Laura punked her badly, she let her tire herself out then basically took her arm out. She wasnt even fighting until Lady Deathstrike started talking trash.
" @Porlos:You realize if Laura's lung was pierced that is an instant KO Deadpool did it to Wolverine to take him out it fills your lungs with blood and you drown are you not a doctor? You should know this stuff "
Wrong. She had her organs carved up by Lady Deathstrike and did just fine. See her organs hanging out? Yet she is stll in the game. Her healing factor is better than Wolverine's. "
" @Porlos:You realize if Laura's lung was pierced that is an instant KO Deadpool did it to Wolverine to take him out it fills your lungs with blood and you drown are you not a doctor? You should know this stuff "
Wrong. She had her organs carved up by Lady Deathstrike and did just fine. See her organs hanging out? Yet she is stll in the game. Her healing factor is better than Wolverine's. "
you post PIS? why? "
How is it PIS when she has consistently done it? I don't think you anime folks know PIS when you see it. I've read her, she has healed from similar wounds quickly, you'll have to prove the above was PIS by showing her getting KOed by a weak stab wound like Batgirl has been...otherwise Batgirl just cant finish her.
@Porlos: It is PIS because she has healed instantly from having her organs shredded something that took Daken over a day who has the same HF as her as well she should not be able to talk with her lungs and stomach shredded if you were a doctor you would know that
" @Porlos: It is PIS because she has healed instantly from having her organs shredded something that took Daken over a day who has the same HF as her as well she should not be able to talk with her lungs and stomach shredded if you were a doctor you would know that "
It is funny that you are trying to call me on what is medically possible and what isn't (in a comic yet) but at the same time you are making so many mistakes yourself. Only half of her chest cavity was carved out from what we can tell of the scans where she is laying down. With one lung out it is still possible to talk, go chat with a patient who has had a cancerous lung removed sometime. Until next time, laddie.
" @Porlos:You realize if Laura's lung was pierced that is an instant KO Deadpool did it to Wolverine to take him out it fills your lungs with blood and you drown are you not a doctor? You should know this stuff "
Wrong. She had her organs carved up by Lady Deathstrike and did just fine. See her organs hanging out? Yet she is stll in the game. Her healing factor is better than Wolverine's. "
you post PIS? why? "
How is it PIS when she has consistently done it? I don't think you anime folks know PIS when you see it. I've read her, she has healed from similar wounds quickly, you'll have to prove the above was PIS by showing her getting KOed by a weak stab wound like Batgirl has been...otherwise Batgirl just cant finish her. "
she has never healed that fast you idiot actually study a comic before you talk
"On a side note, I always liked that fight between X-23 and Lady Deathstrike. But you cant deny that its CIS/PIS "
Well not CIS, jus PIS, no marvel healing factor is that quick, not even WWH. "
CIS for the simple fact that at first Deathstrike takes it to X-23 but then when she has her down, instead of finishing her off she just stands around and runs her mouth. She's a martial artist who shouldn't underestimate an injured opponent (especially one with a healing factor). Instead of writing her like a knowledgeable fighter, they drop a nice healthy serving of character induced stupidity on her.
" @Porlos: It is PIS because she has healed instantly from having her organs shredded something that took Daken over a day who has the same HF as her as well she should not be able to talk with her lungs and stomach shredded if you were a doctor you would know that "
It is funny that you are trying to call me on what is medically possible and what isn't (in a comic yet) but at the same time you are making so many mistakes yourself. Only half of her chest cavity was carved out from what we can tell of the scans where she is laying down. With one lung out it is still possible to talk, go chat with a patient who has had a cancerous lung removed sometime. Until next time, laddie. "
its funny how you call us "lads" when we are Superior to you in debating
"On a side note, I always liked that fight between X-23 and Lady Deathstrike. But you cant deny that its CIS/PIS "
Well not CIS, jus PIS, no marvel healing factor is that quick, not even WWH. "
CIS for the simple fact that at first Deathstrike takes it to X-23 but then when she has her down, instead of finishing her off she just stands around and runs her mouth. She's a martial artist who shouldn't underestimate an injured opponent (especially one with a healing factor). Instead of writing her like a knowledgeable fighter, they drop a nice healthy serving of character induced stupidity on her. "
She stopped attacking because X-23 was not fighting back, she is an honorable warrior and has no enjoyment of beating a kid who is not even fighting back...read the scans.
Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds.
Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again.
"On a side note, I always liked that fight between X-23 and Lady Deathstrike. But you cant deny that its CIS/PIS "
Well not CIS, jus PIS, no marvel healing factor is that quick, not even WWH. "
CIS for the simple fact that at first Deathstrike takes it to X-23 but then when she has her down, instead of finishing her off she just stands around and runs her mouth. She's a martial artist who shouldn't underestimate an injured opponent (especially one with a healing factor). Instead of writing her like a knowledgeable fighter, they drop a nice healthy serving of character induced stupidity on her. "
She stopped attacking because X-23 was not fighting back, she is an honorable warrior and has no enjoyment of beating a kid who is not even fighting back...read the scans. "
I've read the entire run as well as earlier comics with Deathstrike in them. Its CIS plain and simple. I don't really care if you recognize it or not, but the truth is Deathstrike had that fight easily won and got jobbed by the writers :D
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
@Porlos: No one can can talk with an open chest cavity and blood filled lungs obviously both lungs are shredded. There is a reason people are put under or pumped full of sedatives during surgery because if they were awake they would die from shock. If a person is awake but under heavy sedatives they will tell you they tried to scream but could not. But you can talk and function on heavy sedatives
"On a side note, I always liked that fight between X-23 and Lady Deathstrike. But you cant deny that its CIS/PIS "
Well not CIS, jus PIS, no marvel healing factor is that quick, not even WWH. "
CIS for the simple fact that at first Deathstrike takes it to X-23 but then when she has her down, instead of finishing her off she just stands around and runs her mouth. She's a martial artist who shouldn't underestimate an injured opponent (especially one with a healing factor). Instead of writing her like a knowledgeable fighter, they drop a nice healthy serving of character induced stupidity on her. "
No I think that it is an accurate portrayal. If you are fighting somebody who is not fighting back, you either continue beating the stuffing out of them or get curious. X-23 is a superb fighter, I think she is better than Cassandra, but it is true that she must have known that she was takng a risk.
Notice in the scan that it did not cross her mind that X-23 was so observant to aim for her cybernetics. They are both pwerful and I think that X-23 would ave beat her anyway. It was CIS that X-23 was just standing there.
If there are two skilled fighters, the moment one lets their guard down they are in trouble. Lady deathestrike had a plausible reason as she was not enjoying the fight. This has happened to Shiva as well against the green arrow.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that.
Note that both are capable of dodging bullets (I find this offensive as it downplays the bigboys tha get hit by guns,if quicksilver finds it a task to dodge bullets no street leveller should) Note that both were trained their whole life.
We don't know who is more skilled, that is all opinion, what we do know is that one person has a healing factor, sharp claws on her hand and feet, and has insane durability. It begs me to ask why we talk about Cassandra breaking X-23's neck as if she would get the dang chance. They could break each others bones who cares. X-23 has all the advantages. We should not even have to mention claws and healing factor as she would not need them, they are back up.
This is my opinion, it just saddens me that people seem to underestimate Marvel hand to hand combat. It is literally a scenario in which everything should go X-23's way.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand. "
Which is why she didn't come back, not because she landed in another state. Stop making stuff up, please.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand. "
Which is why she didn't come back, not because she landed in another state. Stop making stuff up, please. "
You guys said she could be killed if they bust up her organs and brain beyond repair though. Now you are agreeing she can survive from this? Make up your mind. Either way it proves her healing factor is as good as I been saying, her durability allows her to take hits that would KO a normal human like Batgirl (note X-23's organs hanging out from Deathstrike), and everything I've shown is NOT PIS.
Yes, that is X-23 surviving a full force impact from WWH who tosses tectonic plates around.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand. "
Which is why she didn't come back, not because she landed in another state. Stop making stuff up, please. "
You guys said she could be killed if they bust up her organs and brain beyond repair though. Now you are agreeing she can survive from this? Make up your mind. Either way it proves her healing factor is as good as I been saying, her durability allows her to take hits that would KO a normal human like Batgirl (note X-23's organs hanging out from Deathstrike), and everything I've shown is NOT PIS. Yes, that is X-23 surviving a full force impact from WWH who tosses tectonic plates around. "
See? Now you're going on to a different argument.
Her HEALING FACTOR isn't going to stop her from getting KNOCKED OUT.
No one said she couldn't SURVIVE AGAINST CASSANDRA, she would LOSE AGAINST CASSANDRA. There's a distinct difference.
Your argument is that her healing factor is so fast that she could heal almost instantly from Lady Deathstrike's wounds. Everyone else was saying that the fight was CIS/PIS, no one's arguing that she doesn't have a healing factor, just that it's not as powerful or fast as you're making it out to be.
If you refuse to acknowledge the PIS/CIS, then fine, but it is and the general consensus is that it is.
@Son_of_Magnus: not until now lol i notice how he was posting non sense on the aizen vs wolverine thread and got suspicious but i read your post and knew XD
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand. "
Which is why she didn't come back, not because she landed in another state. Stop making stuff up, please. "
You guys said she could be killed if they bust up her organs and brain beyond repair though. Now you are agreeing she can survive from this? Make up your mind. Either way it proves her healing factor is as good as I been saying, her durability allows her to take hits that would KO a normal human like Batgirl (note X-23's organs hanging out from Deathstrike), and everything I've shown is NOT PIS. Yes, that is X-23 surviving a full force impact from WWH who tosses tectonic plates around. "
See? Now you're going on to a different argument. Her HEALING FACTOR isn't going to stop her from getting KNOCKED OUT. No one said she couldn't SURVIVE AGAINST CASSANDRA, she would LOSE AGAINST CASSANDRA. There's a distinct difference. Your argument is that her healing factor is so fast that she could heal almost instantly from Lady Deathstrike's wounds. Everyone else was saying that the fight was CIS/PIS, no one's arguing that she doesn't have a healing factor, just that it's not as powerful or fast as you're making it out to be. If you refuse to acknowledge the PIS/CIS, then fine, but it is and the general consensus is that it is. "
Her healing factor also affects her brain. Wolverine has tanked a dozen blows by WWH without being KOed. Thus your theory is debunked.
" Note the crack marks in the wall. A normal human would simply be broken beyond repair from that, so her durability is above human by far. "
As long as she's still alive, and even some time after death, her body will repair all damage to her body eventually. Which is why Hulk made the comment that they better hope she heals like Wolverine.
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand. "
Which is why she didn't come back, not because she landed in another state. Stop making stuff up, please. "
You guys said she could be killed if they bust up her organs and brain beyond repair though. Now you are agreeing she can survive from this? Make up your mind. Either way it proves her healing factor is as good as I been saying, her durability allows her to take hits that would KO a normal human like Batgirl (note X-23's organs hanging out from Deathstrike), and everything I've shown is NOT PIS. Yes, that is X-23 surviving a full force impact from WWH who tosses tectonic plates around. "
See? Now you're going on to a different argument. Her HEALING FACTOR isn't going to stop her from getting KNOCKED OUT. No one said she couldn't SURVIVE AGAINST CASSANDRA, she would LOSE AGAINST CASSANDRA. There's a distinct difference. Your argument is that her healing factor is so fast that she could heal almost instantly from Lady Deathstrike's wounds. Everyone else was saying that the fight was CIS/PIS, no one's arguing that she doesn't have a healing factor, just that it's not as powerful or fast as you're making it out to be. If you refuse to acknowledge the PIS/CIS, then fine, but it is and the general consensus is that it is. "
Her healing factor also affects her brain. Wolverine has tanked a dozen blows by WWH without being KOed. Thus your theory is debunked. "
Woleverine has an ADAMANTIUM SKULL. Wolverine has an ADAMANTIUM SKELETON. That's why he's more durable than X-23, X-23 has NORMAL BONES.
" @Son_of_Magnus: not until now lol i notice how he was posting non sense on the aizen vs wolverine thread and got suspicious but i read your post and knew XD "
I knew as soon as his Thanos and Wolverine fanboyism showed up and when he started using the same scans as he used as Klandicar and saying "the animal"
Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever, Listen as much as you guys hate Porlos, can we stop putting up these scans as we already know that X-23 has better durability than Cassandra.
I knew that Porlos was klandicar, because nobody else bothers to put up so many scans, and alot of them seemed so familiar.
But nonetheless X-23 in my opinion wins.
I think that X-23 wins this.
Note that both are capable of dodging bullets (I find this offensive as it downplays the bigboys tha get hit by guns,if quicksilver finds it a task to dodge bullets no street leveller should) Note that both were trained their whole life.
We don't know who is more skilled, that is all opinion, what we do know is that one person has a healing factor, sharp claws on her hand and feet, and has insane durability. It begs me to ask why we talk about Cassandra breaking X-23's neck as if she would get the dang chance. They could break each others bones who cares. X-23 has all the advantages. We should not even have to mention claws and healing factor as she would not need them, they are back up.
This is my opinion, it just saddens me that people seem to underestimate Marvel hand to hand combat. It is literally a scenario in which everything should go X-23's way.
" @Son_of_Magnus: not until now lol i notice how he was posting non sense on the aizen vs wolverine thread and got suspicious but i read your post and knew XD "
I knew as soon as his Thanos and Wolverine fanboyism showed up and when he started using the same scans as he used as Klandicar and saying "the animal" "
Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever, Listen as much as you guys hate Porlos, can we stop putting up these scans as we already know that X-23 has better durability than Cassandra.
I knew that Porlos was klandicar, because nobody else bothers to put up so many scans, and alot of them seemed so familiar.
But nonetheless X-23 in my opinion wins.
I think that X-23 wins this.
Note that both are capable of dodging bullets (I find this offensive as it downplays the bigboys tha get hit by guns,if quicksilver finds it a task to dodge bullets no street leveller should) Note that both were trained their whole life.
We don't know who is more skilled, that is all opinion, what we do know is that one person has a healing factor, sharp claws on her hand and feet, and has insane durability. It begs me to ask why we talk about Cassandra breaking X-23's neck as if she would get the dang chance. They could break each others bones who cares. X-23 has all the advantages. We should not even have to mention claws and healing factor as she would not need them, they are back up.
This is my opinion, it just saddens me that people seem to underestimate Marvel hand to hand combat. It is literally a scenario in which everything should go X-23's way.
"
wow your wrong
1) if hulk wanted to pull her apart she would be fertilizer 2)she is out cold so she can feel anything 3) i must be late i just found out XD
" Batgirl already won. You've failed to prove that she has the skill to hang with Cassandra, the speed to beat Cassandra's body reading. Her "durability" isn't going to get her far in this fight, because she's not really anymore durable than Cassandra, the reason why she can take being tossed through a building by WWH isn't because she's durable, but because she eventually heals from all wounds. Notice that after she gets thrown by WWH, she doesn't appear again. "
Because World War Hulk threw her very far away? He BFRed her, just like he tried BFRing Wolverine. He has the strength to launch people across states, so why would she come back quickly? She could have been in massachusetts like Hulk sent that other student. "
He threw her into the mansion. All she would have had to do was return to the battlefield, the fight continued for three issues after that. It's clear you didn't read that issue, either. "
Wrong. He threw her THROUGH the mansion, she woulda been across town for all ya know. The POINT is that a human with normal durability would be dead regardless of a healing factor. Being thrown by World War Hulk through rock would shatter every bone and organ in her body. That's what you guys are failing to understand. "
Which is why she didn't come back, not because she landed in another state. Stop making stuff up, please. "
You guys said she could be killed if they bust up her organs and brain beyond repair though. Now you are agreeing she can survive from this? Make up your mind. Either way it proves her healing factor is as good as I been saying, her durability allows her to take hits that would KO a normal human like Batgirl (note X-23's organs hanging out from Deathstrike), and everything I've shown is NOT PIS. Yes, that is X-23 surviving a full force impact from WWH who tosses tectonic plates around. "
See? Now you're going on to a different argument. Her HEALING FACTOR isn't going to stop her from getting KNOCKED OUT. No one said she couldn't SURVIVE AGAINST CASSANDRA, she would LOSE AGAINST CASSANDRA. There's a distinct difference. Your argument is that her healing factor is so fast that she could heal almost instantly from Lady Deathstrike's wounds. Everyone else was saying that the fight was CIS/PIS, no one's arguing that she doesn't have a healing factor, just that it's not as powerful or fast as you're making it out to be. If you refuse to acknowledge the PIS/CIS, then fine, but it is and the general consensus is that it is. "
Her healing factor also affects her brain. Wolverine has tanked a dozen blows by WWH without being KOed. Thus your theory is debunked. "
Woleverine has an ADAMANTIUM SKULL. Wolverine has an ADAMANTIUM SKELETON. That's why he's more durable than X-23, X-23 has NORMAL BONES. "
World War Hulk turned his brain to jelly, the point is that Wolvie didnt go down and the brain was repairing. He even commented how the adamantium skull caused even more damage to Wolvie's brain. X-23's brain, organs, and body can repair from anything Cassie does. Cassie can take one or two stabs/slashes at best from a ruthless fighter like X-23.
Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever, Listen as much as you guys hate Porlos, can we stop putting up these scans as we already know that X-23 has better durability than Cassandra.
Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever, Listen as much as you guys hate Porlos, can we stop putting up these scans as we already know that X-23 has better durability than Cassandra.
I knew that Porlos was klandicar, because nobody else bothers to put up so many scans, and alot of them seemed so familiar.
But nonetheless X-23 in my opinion wins.
I think that X-23 wins this.
Note that both are capable of dodging bullets (I find this offensive as it downplays the bigboys tha get hit by guns,if quicksilver finds it a task to dodge bullets no street leveller should) Note that both were trained their whole life.
We don't know who is more skilled, that is all opinion, what we do know is that one person has a healing factor, sharp claws on her hand and feet, and has insane durability. It begs me to ask why we talk about Cassandra breaking X-23's neck as if she would get the dang chance. They could break each others bones who cares. X-23 has all the advantages. We should not even have to mention claws and healing factor as she would not need them, they are back up.
This is my opinion, it just saddens me that people seem to underestimate Marvel hand to hand combat. It is literally a scenario in which everything should go X-23's way.
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wow your wrong 1) if hulk wanted to pull her apart she would be fertilizer 2)she is out cold so she can feel anything 3) i must be late i just found out XD "
She isn't out cold, he has her arms and legs contained so she doesnt cut his eyes out again, laddie. She is very dangeorus to him, which is more than I can say about Cassie.
"On a side note, I always liked that fight between X-23 and Lady Deathstrike. But you cant deny that its CIS/PIS "
Well not CIS, jus PIS, no marvel healing factor is that quick, not even WWH. "
CIS for the simple fact that at first Deathstrike takes it to X-23 but then when she has her down, instead of finishing her off she just stands around and runs her mouth. She's a martial artist who shouldn't underestimate an injured opponent (especially one with a healing factor). Instead of writing her like a knowledgeable fighter, they drop a nice healthy serving of character induced stupidity on her. "
No I think that it is an accurate portrayal. If you are fighting somebody who is not fighting back, you either continue beating the stuffing out of them or get curious. X-23 is a superb fighter, I think she is better than Cassandra, but it is true that she must have known that she was takng a risk. Notice in the scan that it did not cross her mind that X-23 was so observant to aim for her cybernetics. They are both pwerful and I think that X-23 would ave beat her anyway. It was CIS that X-23 was just standing there. If there are two skilled fighters, the moment one lets their guard down they are in trouble. Lady deathestrike had a plausible reason as she was not enjoying the fight. This has happened to Shiva as well against the green arrow. "
Thats fine, you can believe that if you want. When you're in a fight in which you could potentially lose your life your not going to gain the upperhand only to sit back and start talking trash. Thats a novice move which Deathstrike is not. Her not being observant only strengthens what I've been saying about CIS so thanks for that :P When did Shiva lose to Green Arrow? I dont recall that fight, but if it did in fact happen that would be another example of CIS for Green Arrow is nowhere near Shiva's level. I haven't seen anything in this thread that would lead me to believe X-23 is a better fighter then Cassandra Cain. Cassandra Cain has defeated well known accomplished hand to hand fighters. X-23 has One fight against Wolverine who was trying to avoid fighting in the first place. Cassandra is fast enough to avoid getting hit by X-23, add in the fact that she can predict what her opponent is going to do before they do it, and you have a Major advantage. Cass has the speed, skill, and strength to take out X-23.
" Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever.
That's just it. He's not squeezing her or pulling her apart there. He's just holding her arms and wrists. World War Hulk could pull her apart if he wanted, and X-23's skeleton isn't reinforced by adamantium.
Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever, Listen as much as you guys hate Porlos, can we stop putting up these scans as we already know that X-23 has better durability than Cassandra.
I knew that Porlos was klandicar, because nobody else bothers to put up so many scans, and alot of them seemed so familiar.
But nonetheless X-23 in my opinion wins.
I think that X-23 wins this.
Note that both are capable of dodging bullets (I find this offensive as it downplays the bigboys tha get hit by guns,if quicksilver finds it a task to dodge bullets no street leveller should) Note that both were trained their whole life.
We don't know who is more skilled, that is all opinion, what we do know is that one person has a healing factor, sharp claws on her hand and feet, and has insane durability. It begs me to ask why we talk about Cassandra breaking X-23's neck as if she would get the dang chance. They could break each others bones who cares. X-23 has all the advantages. We should not even have to mention claws and healing factor as she would not need them, they are back up.
This is my opinion, it just saddens me that people seem to underestimate Marvel hand to hand combat. It is literally a scenario in which everything should go X-23's way.
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wow your wrong 1) if hulk wanted to pull her apart she would be fertilizer 2)she is out cold so she can feel anything 3) i must be late i just found out XD "
Yeah he is obviously not trying to pull her apart. But she is not out cold, and also he is holding her arms and legs as she is a bit dangerous. I admit the scan has no obvious benefit, but she was thrown through the mansion, and that shows durability, she got BFR'd.
" Has nobody noticed that WWH is trying to pull her apart, and squeezing her arms and legs, no sign of pain whatsoever.
That's just it. He's not squeezing her or pulling her apart there. He's just holding her arms and wrists. World War Hulk could pull her apart if he wanted, and X-23's skeleton isn't reinforced by adamantium. "
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