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#1 Posted by nickzambuto (12669 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA created the multiverse. But apparently, the multiverse is just a drop in the sea of a place called the beyond realm. The Beyonder is the sentience of that realm.

Pre Retcon Beyonder has said that the combined powers of all the beings in the multiverse (including entities) where just like a drop in the sea to him. Based off these statements, can Beyonder potentially beat TOAA?

Yeah, TOAA created the multiverse, but that's just a drop in the sea known as The Beyonder.

#2 Posted by pooty (10742 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: Does Beyonder have any proof to back up his claims?

#3 Posted by Immortal777 (6684 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA=Writer

Beyonder will never beat TOAA

#4 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA>>>>>Everything else.

#5 Posted by BigCimmerian (7845 posts) - - Show Bio

THE ONE ABOVE ALL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Every cosmic entity with Living Tribunal, Beyonder and Molecule Man x100000000

#6 Posted by SirMethos (1303 posts) - - Show Bio

Quick correction: TOAA created the Marvel Omniverse. Not "Multiverse".

To clarify, Omniverse is almost infinitely larger than the Multiverse. I.e. the Omniverse contains several Multiverses.

That Marvel is using the term Omniverse incorrectly, and that using "omniverse" in regards to only one company is ridiculous, is a completely different discussion.

#7 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

Universe, Multiverse ,Metaverse,Xenoverse,Hyperverse,Omniverse,beyond realm.......TOAA

Universe: The inside description of a context that is relative in size/structure (attributes/modes) to the known universe that we inhabit. A Universe, also known as a Cosmos, is a particular individual space-time organization with a specified number of dimensions of space and time and definite and specific laws of physics. Other Universes (other Cosmoses) may have different numbers of dimensions of space and time and different laws of physics than our own Universe (Cosmos).[3][4]

Multiverse: The part of infinity that directly joins a given universe with all possible configurations of that universe.

Metaverse: In string theory, the part that is along with, after; over also denoting change in the multiverse that houses the branes or film that each universe is said to be attached to and hang like individual sheets in a hypermagnetic wave with rhythms of hypercosmic strings going up and down that has a third element causing up, down, backwards, forwards, motions inside the Xenoverse.

Note: In computer science, a metaverse is a virtual reality simulation based on the physical reality of a single individual universe, but one or more levels of implementation above it. It is conceived that it will be possible in forthcoming centuries to create such simulations using massive arrays of matrioshka brains and Jupiter brains.[5][6]

Xenoverse: the unknown alien elements that are beyond and part of the metaverse and multiverse structure. Compared to a patchwork quilt hanging on a line to dry in space that is multivariate inside the Omniverse. While Omniverse is said to be the outside ring of all that is known, the xenoverse is the inside the hypermacrocosm that is unknown beyond the metaverse—the unknown sets of laws that govern how branes behave to create metaverses, the laws of which govern the creation of multiverses.

Hyperverse: Multiple xenoverses and to a relative of and probably a quarter of an omniverse, also, not to be confused with Hyperversus and the off end of the multiverse: Metaverse and Xenoverse.

Omniverse: All possible attributes and modes are in play, multiverses are categorized by the attributes/modes active in its child universes. Some or all possible modes of existence are actualized. If we take the point of origin as our being as a point in measurement, then we can generate the following hierarchy: 1. our location in space-time, 2. this universe (cosmos), 3. the multiverse, 4. the metaverse, 5. the xenoverse, 6. the hyperverse, 7. the omniverse.

#8 Posted by Onemoreposter (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Immortal777 said:

TOAA=Writer

Beyonder will never beat TOAA

Not necessarily true. The writer could always write the beyonder beating him.

#9 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

beyond realm.is beyond omniverse

TOAA....is beyond beyonder=The Presence

#10 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2817 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

TOAA>>>>>Everything else.

#11 Posted by SirMethos (1303 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: You don't seem to be fully understanding the concept of "omniverse".

Omniverse = all multiverses/universes/dimensions/realms/etc. There is nothing that is not part of the omniverse.

#12 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

@a88378438: You don't seem to be fully understanding the concept of "omniverse".

Omniverse = all multiverses/universes/dimensions/realms/etc. There is nothing that is not part of the omniverse.

It includes, Platon theory?

That is, the nonphysical?the omniverse has nonphysical?

#13 Posted by SirMethos (1303 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: Yes. Omniverse = everything.

Omni = "all", or "every"

Hence words like Omnipresence(being everywhere, in every time, at the same time), Omnipotent(all-powerful/unlimited power), etc.

Thus my comment about Marvel using the terms "omniverse" incorrectly. In Marvel, the Omniverse is everything that has ever been created by Marvel, and everything that ever will be.

But Omniverse, by its very definition, is more than that. Omniverse would include everything, from all companies(marvel, dc, darkhorse, etc), including the Real world(i.e. the one you and I are a part of).

There is nothing that is not part of the Omniverse.

#14 Posted by Dernman (14611 posts) - - Show Bio

The only verse that matters is that Dernverse.

#15 Posted by KalTheHokage_2007 (651 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA is the writer. writer and creator of the comic beats his comic book character.

#16 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

@a88378438: Yes. Omniverse = everything.

Omni = "all", or "every"

Hence words like Omnipresence(being everywhere, in every time, at the same time), Omnipotent(all-powerful/unlimited power), etc.

Thus my comment about Marvel using the terms "omniverse" incorrectly. In Marvel, the Omniverse is everything that has ever been created by Marvel, and everything that ever will be.

But Omniverse, by its very definition, is more than that. Omniverse would include everything, from all companies(marvel, dc, darkhorse, etc), including the Real world(i.e. the one you and I are a part of).

There is nothing that is not part of the Omniverse.

But, I said non-material dimensions, it is not the time, space, matter, and energy, Omniverse also includes it?

#17 Posted by SirMethos (1303 posts) - - Show Bio

@a88378438: Is there a specific part of "everything", that you're having trouble understanding?

#18 Posted by Enemybird (3138 posts) - - Show Bio

Why hasnt this been locked?... TOAA cant lose

#19 Posted by thanobomb1124 (2008 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enemybird

Why hasnt this been locked?... TOAA cant lose

#20 Posted by a88378438 (3421 posts) - - Show Bio

@SirMethos said:

@a88378438: Is there a specific part of "everything", that you're having trouble understanding?

could you can scan prove it?

#21 Posted by Saren (25225 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman said:

The only verse that matters is that Dernverse.
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#22 Posted by SlimJ87D (9250 posts) - - Show Bio

The One Above All are the writers of Marvel. I can't stress that enough. Most of the time, if they want to write themselves into the comic to speak with their characters or have someone respectable like icon Stan Lee speak to the characters, that is the One Above All.

WHAT DID TOAA do to the beyonder? They retcon him and there was not a damn thing he could do about it.

#23 Posted by Saren (25225 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: That issue was one of the corniest conclusions to an arc I've ever read.

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#24 Posted by SlimJ87D (9250 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Agreed.