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Scenario:

The man feared by many in Gotham takes on one of Captain America's deadliest foes. Who wins in this brutal street fight?

Location:

Times Square, unpopulated. Everything is on limits (yes, that includes the massive Toys-R-Us, lol). 5am. They begin at opposite ends. Plenty of abandoned vehicles. 


Rules:

  • Random encounter.  
  •  In character. 
  • Standard elimination rules apply. 
Round 1: 
Both combatants are unarmed.  Bane is off venom. Round 2: 
Crossbones has his wrist gauntlet (contains a crossbow/knife) and extra knives/sharp objects. Bane has his venom set-up from 'Knightfall.
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#2  Edited By spidey 15

IMO Crossbones ftw. He's a better martial artist!
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#3  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@spidey 15 said:
"IMO Crossbones ftw. He's a better martial artist! "

Why do you believe that?
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#4  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n said:
"@spidey 15 said:
"IMO Crossbones ftw. He's a better martial artist! "
Why do you believe that? "

As i said his a better MA. I don't know much about him i saw him a few times but as i read from Wikipedia his one of the world's best h2h compatans. And the Bain without venom i don't see him winning!
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#5  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@spidey 15 said:
"@k4tzm4n said:
"@spidey 15 said:
"IMO Crossbones ftw. He's a better martial artist! "
Why do you believe that? "
As i said his a better MA. I don't know much about him i saw him a few times but as i read from Wikipedia his one of the world's best h2h compatans. And the Bain without venom i don't see him winning! "

Crossbones is indeed a very skilled fighter, as well as brutal combatant (as demonstrated against Daredevil, Bullseye and Rogers many times) but I think you're selling Bane a wee bit short.  Even off venom, he's still a skilled fighter, capable of withstanding a very impressive amount of damage.
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#6  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n said:
"@spidey 15 said:
"@k4tzm4n said:
"@spidey 15 said:
"IMO Crossbones ftw. He's a better martial artist! "
Why do you believe that? "
As i said his a better MA. I don't know much about him i saw him a few times but as i read from Wikipedia his one of the world's best h2h compatans. And the Bain without venom i don't see him winning! "

Crossbones is indeed a very skilled fighter, as well as brutal combatant (as demonstrated against Daredevil, Bullseye and Rogers many times) but I think you're selling Bane a wee bit short.  Even off venom, he's still a skilled fighter, capable of withstanding a very impressive amount of damage. "
You're right but i still think Crossbones take this after a really good fight. It's my opinion!
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#7  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

And you're allowed to have it...lol

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#8  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n:
Thanks.....=]
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#9  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

(posting scans of both their fighting in a bit)

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#10  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

I'm getting errors posting too many scans. So I'll do them over a course of time.

Brief Bane scans.

1) Going unfazed by a strike w/ a baseball bat to the back of the head (not on venom).

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2) Venomless Bane VS Azrael. Dialogue here is critical and JPV isn't on venom.

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#11  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
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I'm getting errors posting too many scans.  So I'll do them over a course of time. 
 
Brief Bane scans. 
 
1) Going unphased by a strike w/ a baseball bat to the back of the head (not on vemom) 
 
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2) Venomless Bane VS Azrael on Venom.  Dialogue here is critical
 


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Nice scans.
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#12  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

   
Actually missing one and was waiting for a reply haha. 
 
This should be the second to last. 

 
 
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@k4tzm4n said:
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Actually missing one and was waiting for a reply haha. 
 
This should be the second to last. 
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I was about to ask you for that, but I figured you'd notice it.
 
Got to say, that's some very solid writing in Azrael's series.
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#14  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Indeed.  Do you find the fight accurate or have issues with it?  Hopefully this will earn Bane a bit more respect with good debaters ;)
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#15  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
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Indeed.  Do you find the fight accurate or have issues with it?  Hopefully this will earn Bane a bit more respect with good debaters ;) "
 
LOL. You already know I respect Bane.
 
I think Azrael should have won more easily than that, especially taking the circumstances into account, but the writing is good enough to compensate for it for me to overlook it. It's still a good showing for Bane, nonetheless.
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#16  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself...
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Now for Crossbones.  Dialogue again is important .


 

 
 



 

 
 



 

 
 


   



 

 
 


Remaining silent / showing no pain from being shot with a bow in the stomach: 

 
 


Defeating DD (off panel mostly) 

 
 




 

 
 


 

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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "

/makes a deal w/ Mephisto to have that instance forgotten
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#19  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "
/makes a deal w/ Mephisto to have that instance forgotten "
I can see that happening.
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#20  Edited By spidey 15
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Nice scans.  hope don't mind posting that....=] 

 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 
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#21  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

^I love that story arc, Spidey =)

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#22  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Any other thoughts here?

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#23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

STREETS OF POISON!!!

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#24  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Vance Astro said:
"STREETS OF POISON!!! "

It's so lame, but I enjoy it.
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#25  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Vance Astro said:
"STREETS OF POISON!!! "
It's so lame, but I enjoy it. "
I don't :(
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#26  Edited By Maniac2312

Bane
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#27  Edited By Matezoide2

it can go either way

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#28  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Maniac2312 said:
"Bane "

Why?
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#29  Edited By DetectiveQ

I'm not overly familiar with Crossbones, but I have a hard time believing he could come close to outsmarting Bane. The venom may have made him strong, but he's always been a genius.

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#30  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@DetectiveQ said:
"I'm not overly familiar with Crossbones, but I have a hard time believing he could come close to outsmarting Bane. The venom may have made him strong, but he's always been a genius."

Naturally Bane is more intelligent than Crossbones, but in terms of combat I'd say they have a similiar mindset.
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#31  Edited By Power NeXus
@Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "

Dare I ask about this? I'm not sure what instance you are talking about, but my curiosity is piqued...
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#32  Edited By Matezoide2
@Power NeXus said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "
Dare I ask about this? I'm not sure what instance you are talking about, but my curiosity is piqued... "
i am not entirely sure,but i believe thats when Bucky kicked Crossbones`s @ss right after Steve was shot
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#33  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus said:
"@Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "
Dare I ask about this? I'm not sure what instance you are talking about, but my curiosity is piqued... "

Bucky one-shotted him...with his natural arm too.....talk about awesome writing ;)
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#34  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Any other thoughts?
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#35  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Power NeXus said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "
Dare I ask about this? I'm not sure what instance you are talking about, but my curiosity is piqued... "

 This is what I was referring to.
 This is what I was referring to.
 
Even though K4tz will probably shoot me for posting it.
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#36  Edited By Power NeXus
@Morpheus_:
What's wrong with it? It looks perfectly accurate to me. No PIS there. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
^sarcasm^
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#37  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Power NeXus said:

" @Morpheus_:
What's wrong with it? It looks perfectly accurate to me. No PIS there. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
^sarcasm^ "

All fun aside, Buck has proven his superiority over Crossbones a number of times now.
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#38  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Power NeXus said:
"@Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "
Dare I ask about this? I'm not sure what instance you are talking about, but my curiosity is piqued... "

Bucky one-shotted him...with his natural arm too.....talk about awesome writing ;) "
I think it was meant for him to one shot him with the other arm.Bucky keeps owning people with the regular arm.I don't think the artist is actually watching what he's doing.IIRC He was kicking Scourge's ass too without hitting him with the shield or arm.
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#39  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Vance Astro said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @Power NeXus said:
"@Morpheus_ said:
"Oh, and I would tell a nasty joke about Crossbones getting one-shotted by a certain someone right now, but I'll restrain myself... "
Dare I ask about this? I'm not sure what instance you are talking about, but my curiosity is piqued... "

Bucky one-shotted him...with his natural arm too.....talk about awesome writing ;) "
I think it was meant for him to one shot him with the other arm.Bucky keeps owning people with the regular arm.I don't think the artist is actually watching what he's doing.IIRC He was kicking Scourge's ass too without hitting him with the shield or arm. "

When did Bucky and Scourge ever face off?  He shouldn't be able to beat him with ease...especially considering he gave DD a very good fight.
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#40  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
When did Bucky and Scourge ever face off?  He shouldn't be able to beat him with ease...especially considering he gave DD a very good fight. "
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#41  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

That looks horribly out of context...Why is Scourge falling over in the beginning of the fight?
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#42  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Basically, it appears Bucky got the first shot for free.  How'd that begin?
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#43  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" Basically, it appears Bucky got the first shot for free.  How'd that begin? "

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#44  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Ah, just like I thought.  Far from really a straight forward one v one...considering he got knocked into Bucky, lmao.
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#45  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Also seems a bit silly Falcon could knock him so far...considering his durability (which DD had difficulty bypassing)
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#46  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
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Ah, just like I thought.  Far from really a straight forward one v one...considering he got knocked into Bucky, lmao. "
Did I say it was one on one? (My bad if I did). I was only saying that Bucky was able to hurt him without using the arm.Scourge is really Nuke right? Daredevil couldn't really hurt him at all.
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#47  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Vance Astro

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" @k4tzm4n said:
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Ah, just like I thought. Far from really a straight forward one v one...considering he got knocked into Bucky, lmao. "
Did I say it was one on one? (My bad if I did). I was only saying that Bucky was able to hurt him without using the arm.Scourge is really Nuke right? Daredevil couldn't really hurt him at all. "

Bucky doesn't really come close to one-shotting Scourge though. He does more damage with his kick to the gut, then Scourge even taunts him after the strike. The strike is with the right arm though...which is the bionic arm? It looks like he stomps on his face multiple times, which is what does the real damage, IMO.

Also, don't you love how much Crossbones does in the final battle? lmao....he's just standing there, fully armed the entire time doing nothing. Falcon randomly shoves him, and then he's doing nothing again.

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#48  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

And nah, you never said it was a one vs one.  You said he kicked his ass, so I just assumed it was a direct and fair battle.  Not a sucker attack =P 
 
Besides, if Crossbones regularly withstood strikes from Cap, it's just beyond hard to believe one hit from Buck could KO him, ya know?
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#49  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
Bucky doesn't really come close to one-shotting Scourge though.  He does more damage with his kick to the gut, then Scourge even taunts him after the strike. The strike is with the right arm though...which is the bionice arm?   It looks like he stomps on his face multiple times, which is what does the real damage, IMO. Also, don't you love how much Crossbones does in the final battle? lmfao....he's just standing there, fully armed the entire time doing nothing.  Falcon randomly shoves him, and then he's doing nothing again. "
That punch in the face did plenty. I know he didn't come close to one shotting him but he's doing some pretty good damage considering Scourge is someone most street levelers can't even hurt.Scourge is talking crap but he's also bleeding from the mouth.
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#50  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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" @k4tzm4n said:
Bucky doesn't really come close to one-shotting Scourge though.  He does more damage with his kick to the gut, then Scourge even taunts him after the strike. The strike is with the right arm though...which is the bionice arm?   It looks like he stomps on his face multiple times, which is what does the real damage, IMO. Also, don't you love how much Crossbones does in the final battle? lmfao....he's just standing there, fully armed the entire time doing nothing.  Falcon randomly shoves him, and then he's doing nothing again. "
That punch in the face did plenty. I know he didn't come close to one shotting him but he's doing some pretty good damage considering Scourge is someone most street levelers can't even hurt.Scourge is talking crap but he's also bleeding from the mouth. "

Is his bionic his right or left arm? 
 
Also, the blood could be from the kick to the gut.  Either way, we both know it's going to take a lot of strikes from a peak human person to inflict damage on Scourge.  DD couldnt, even with multiple nerve strikes, IIRC.