Bane vs Black Widow and Hit-Girl (Movie)

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Woah, woah, woah... I must have missed this was a tables match!

The Dudley Boyz for the win!

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@godzilla44: umm, the bolts weren't even in that table....

Good lord, WWE is scripted. It's fake as hell --- this is just getting ridiculous now.

wat? the table was obviously taken apart, the one shown above was not. :/

I can't really say this without coming across as offensive to a degree. WWE is scripted, it's fake and they ensure the wrestlers do not withstand serious injuries. WWE features god awful acting, the aspects to WWE is created to be fake. Furthermore, you actually think breaking a table is impressive - that is awful by movie standards. It's not worth my time discussing this.

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#153  Edited By silent_bomber

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@rogueshadow said:

How did I miss all this?

You got to the good part; using WWE as evidence.

Are you living in backwards world? Attacking WWE is a pro-Kick-Ass point, where is your logic!!!

Or are you arguing that WWE builds better tables than real companies?!

WWE built the crapiest, fakest table, built to break, and it withstood two women.

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#154 frozen  Moderator

@frozen said:

@rogueshadow said:

How did I miss all this?

You got to the good part; using WWE as evidence.

Are you living in backwards world? Attacking WWE is a pro-Kick-Ass point, where is your logic!!!

Or are you arguing that WWE builds better tables than real companies?!

WWE built the crapiest, fakest table, built to break, and it withstood two women.

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@allstarsuperman said:

@frozen said:

@allstarsuperman said:

@godzilla44: umm, the bolts weren't even in that table....

Good lord, WWE is scripted. It's fake as hell --- this is just getting ridiculous now.

wat? the table was obviously taken apart, the one shown above was not. :/

I can't really say this without coming across as offensive to a degree. WWE is scripted, it's fake and they ensure the wrestlers do not withstand serious injuries. WWE features god awful acting, the aspects to WWE is created to be fake. Furthermore, you actually think breaking a table is impressive - that is awful by movie standards. It's not worth my time discussing this.

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WWE built the crapiest, fakest table, built to break, and it withstood two women.

This is literally the point

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@frozen said:

they ensure the wrestlers do not withstand serious injuries.

By making the table weaker than real world tables, what is your point?!

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#157 frozen  Moderator

@allstarsuperman: That is a very dodgy comparison. That table was not supposed to break in the context of that fall - the third woman was supposed to break it, otherwise she would not have been able to tackle the other two women...

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#158  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@silent_bomber said:
@frozen said:

they ensure the wrestlers do not withstand serious injuries.

By making the table weaker than real world tables, what is your point?!

@frozen said:

@allstarsuperman: That is a very dodgy comparison. That table was not supposed to break from those two women in the context of that fall - the third woman was supposed to break it, otherwise she would not have been able to tackle the other two women...

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#160  Edited By frozen  Moderator

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@frozen said:

@allstarsuperman: That is a very dodgy comparison.

Kinda similar like Bane's 1250 lbs neck break?

Except that is not a dodgy comparison, the comparison correlates as the similarities are hard to distinguish. WWE is not comparable, it's scripted so that wrestlers do not suffer harm, it was the intention for that table not to break from the two women taking a lesser fall (moreso push).

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@killerwasp: Because at first it was Batman and Bane but people said it was too much of a stomp

Ah cause i saw the title which was bane vs hitgirl and widow, so i was curious.

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#162  Edited By silent_bomber
@frozen said:

@allstarsuperman: That is a very dodgy comparison. That table was not supposed to break in the context of that fall - the third woman was supposed to break it, otherwise she would not have been able to tackle the other two women...

Again, this is irrelevant.

All we're saying now, is that when the prop makers in WWE (who know exactly what they're doing) want to create a stunt with 2 women landing on a table, and the 3rd breaking it, they make a table that is exactly that thin, and made of cheap wood.

They know exactly what is required of each stunt, and this stunt required a crappy little cheap table.

All this comes down to in the end, is that you're saying that this table

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Is more durable than this table

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Because its made by WWE, masters of durable table making!

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#163  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@silent_bomber: The problem is your conjecture is not taking into account what the wrestlers are trained to do. They have to practice those moves to ensure they perform every move matched to the script, they are not raging with the anger of Frank. People in real life have broken tables in the manner to which Frank did, that doesn't warrant them as a superhuman. It's beyond me why you see a table breaking as impressive; that's easily in the reach of humans in reality.

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@frozen said:

@silent_bomber: People in real life have broken tables in the manner to which Frank did, that doesn't warrant him as a superhuman. It's beyond me why you see a table breaking as impressive; that's easily in the reach of humans in reality.

prove it

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#165  Edited By frozen  Moderator

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@silent_bomber: People in real life have broken tables in the manner to which Frank did, that doesn't warrant him as a superhuman. It's beyond me why you see a table breaking as impressive; that's easily in the reach of humans in reality.

prove it

There are a plethora of accounts to which people have broken tables or stronger objects with momentum. It doesn't require me to do the Google search for you.

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#166  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Frank was a Black Belt (as shown in the training scene).

The script talked about him doing "lethal Karate blows" but they cut the scene from the movie.

He also shrugged off stabs to the right shoulder and right arm in the middle of the fight, and a vase to the head.

and as always there's not even any reason to be bringing up D'Amico, that was years ago and the Mother Russia fight is more impressive and more up to date. You guys are just low-balling as per always, pick her worst showing in two movies to prove a point.

That D'Amico fight only even exists to give Kick-Ass something to do and give the movie an exciting ending, that's literally all there is to it. In the original script Hit-Girl kicked the dude out of a window without any help from Kick-Ass after a prolonged battle.

Being a black belt is not impressive when being compared to movie characters and comic characters.

Cut-content; not canon.

Again: only impressive in the real world. Even then, people can fight with broken limbs if their adrenaline is high enough; not superhuman, by any means.

I did not bring up the D'Amico match. It was being used as pro-Hit-Girl. I was showing why it was a terrible showing, and only goes against her.

Also: I stopped taking you seriously when you brought WWE in as "proof."

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@jedixman said:
Also: I stopped taking you seriously when you brought WWE in as "proof."

Anyone with even half a brain would know that they are the best possible example to use.

This is a company which has spent many, many years creating these stunts, they have people working for them who's entire job is to know how to set this stuff up, to the letter so that it will work in front of an audience, they need to know exactly how much weight these props can take, reliably, and what types of materials they can use.

This is why they were used as an example.

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#168  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@silent_bomber said:

@jedixman said:
Also: I stopped taking you seriously when you brought WWE in as "proof."

Anyone with even half a brain would know that they are the best possible example to use.

This is a company which has spent many, many years creating these stunts, they have people working for them who's entire job is to know how to set this stuff up, to the letter so that it will work in front of an audience, they need to know exactly how much weight these props can take, reliably, and what types of materials they can use.

This is why they were used as an example.

And yet you wonder why people don't take you seriously...

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@silent_bomber: You are excused. Posters can tell other posters they don't take them seriously. Its a bit antagonistic but not a person insult. It can be an objective comment on their own and other posters behavior. Implications about a posters brain is either literal (you think they actually lack half a brain) or an insult. If you can't distinguish the difference then I suggest avoid disagreeing with others unless you're as respect and civil as you can be to avoid potential conflict. Thank you.

Also if you disagree or have any other off topic comments, feel free to PM me. Off topic posts from yourself or others in this thread will be deleted from here on.

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@frozen said:

@silent_bomber said:

@sc said:

@silent_bomber said:

Lines like this? Not necessarily as well as being inappropriate. Please refrain from such comments in the future thanks.

Excuse me? This was a reply to "I stopped taking you serious when"

I was perfectly amiable until I got 2 pages of weasel words and undermining.

Thanks

The only weasel word was your comment of someone having half a brain.

"Everyone knows a table can be broken easily yada yada yada"

You provide no actual evidence, just vague assertions about "everyone" to back up a statement you made.

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superhuman flip through a table

Some of the stuff in this thread is just... embarrassing.

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Classic ComicVine battle

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Why is everybody talking about WWE?

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Either of the girls solo. Don't bump old mismatches

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Bane. Too durable to go down.

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Bane. Too durable to go down.

Yup much too durable.

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Doesn't even need his brain. He's too durable.

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@lubub55: Fingers count as equipment? Lol.

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@rbt said:

Bane. Too durable to go down.

Yup much too durable.

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Doesn't even need his brain. He's too durable.

Yeah, good luck to Mindy trying to overpower Bane like that.

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#184  Edited By AllStarSuperman

@lubub55: Black Death swung a knife at Hit-GIrl, she disarmed him, then she lodge his brain with his own finger.

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@rbt said:
@allstarsuperman said:
@rbt said:

Bane. Too durable to go down.

Yup much too durable.

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Doesn't even need his brain. He's too durable.

Yeah, good luck to Mindy trying to overpower Bane like that.

It's not about overpowering, it's about body control. Lady Shiva has done the exact same thing to Killer Croc, and she's obviously not stronger than him.

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@rbt said:
@allstarsuperman said:
@rbt said:

Bane. Too durable to go down.

Yup much too durable.

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Doesn't even need his brain. He's too durable.

Yeah, good luck to Mindy trying to overpower Bane like that.

It's not about overpowering, it's about body control. Lady Shiva has done the exact same thing to Killer Croc, and she's obviously not stronger than him.

You can't body control someone who pretty much outclasses you in strength. Shiva did not do the "exact" same thing against croc, assuming you're talking about this scan-

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Mindy outright overpowered that guy in the gif. Unlike Shiva who struck Croc. Mindy is not doing that to Bane. She is not strong enough.