Bane / Red Hood /Black Mask VS Crossbones / Bullseye / Hammerhead

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#1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Location

5 square blocks of Little Italy, NYC 
10pm, all lights remain on and a vareity of vehicles remain in the street. (disabled so they cannot use) 
Everything is on limit (alleys, rooftops, sewers, building interiors)
  

Rules

-Both teams begin at opposite ends, not visible. 
-Both teams know who they are facing. 
-Both teams are unaware where the enemies begin. 
-Both teams have been offered 5 million to eliminate the opposition.   
-All characters have unlimited ammo, unless otherwise stated.
-Morals apply.
-Elimination by death only.
 

Combatants

 
Bane (On venom, submachine gun) 
Red Hood / Jason Todd (custom knife, 1 smoke grenade, twin pistols, standard armor) 
Black Mask (twin pistols, combat knife, kevlar armor) 
 

VS


Crossbones (gauntlet knives, mini-crossbow, kevlar vest)
Bullseye (daggers, twin sai, throwing stars) 
Hammerhead (Current mindset but pre-adamantium upgrade, tommy gun, twin pistols) 
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#2  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

This well went.

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#3  Edited By Decoy Elite

F#$% it! Team Crossbones takes it 7/10. Bullseye's accuracy and Hammerhead's durability are too much for the opposing team.

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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Decoy Elite:
Without the adamantium, Hammerhead isn't really all that durable (head aside). 
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#5  Edited By Silver2467

Crap. How did I miss this thread? 
 
Anyway, I would probably give an edge to Team 2, primarily due to Bullseye. I think that Bane could defeat Hammerhead, Bullseye, or Crossbones in straight combat if he could get close enough, but because of how far apart the teams begin, even if they cannot see one another at the start, I think the range tactic would be an advantage Bullseye could exploit. Jason is skilled in that area also and is impressive in stealth as well, which is why I would not give Team 2 a clean sweep. This would be an extremely close match due to Jason and Bane's skill. They may be able to close the distance without getting noticed, but that would prove extremely difficult. Overall, I think Bullseye and even Hammerhead providing heat from a distance would gain Team 2 a solid majority. Team 2 6/10.

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#6  Edited By Decoy Elite
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Decoy Elite: Without the adamantium, Hammerhead isn't really all that durable (head aside).  "
Crap, I misread. Still going with his team though.
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#7  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Decoy Elite:
lol
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#8  Edited By Decoy Elite
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Decoy Elite: lol "
Wait, I'm thinking about making a case for Team 1, which Black Mask is this again?
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#9  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Decoy Elite:
The original... Unless of course the later one has more impressive feats.  I haven't read the second one, yet.
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#10  Edited By Decoy Elite
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Decoy Elite: The original... Unless of course the later one has more impressive feats.  I haven't read the second one, yet. "
Darn it I can't think of any really good feats of his.
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#11  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Decoy Elite:
It's my understanding he's fought Catwoman twice? 
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#12  Edited By Decoy Elite
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Decoy Elite: It's my understanding he's fought Catwoman twice?  "
Yeah, but didn't he lose twice? Still, it could be argued that fighting Catwoman is better than most of what Hammerhead's pulled off.
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#13  Edited By Sebastian Dark

team two wins this
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#14  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Decoy Elite:
She's a pretty good and agile fighter.  Besides, I think she shot him in the head the first time, LOL.
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#15  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

In an attempt to even the odds, I've given Bane a mp5 submachine gun 

Because giving him this would just be unfair.
Because giving him this would just be unfair.
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#16  Edited By Decoy Elite
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Decoy Elite: She's a pretty good and agile fighter.  Besides, I think she shot him in the head the first time, LOL. "
I thought it was the second time that she shot him? Oh well. 
 
Anyway I'll say team 1 and here's why. Firstly, they're going to work together much better then their counterparts. Crossbones has actually tried to kill Bullseye before and Hammerhead isn't exactly friendly with his teammate's employers. So while they probably won't kill each other, team two is still going to have some teamwork issues(at least more so than Team 1). Now then you've got Jason, Hammerhead, and Bullseye as the primary long range attacks. Accuracy wise, Hammerhead hasn't really done much of anything so he's basically useless(all of his opponents are bullet dodgers to my knowledge). Bulseye is better than Jason, but his morals tend to kick and he'll probably mess around more, which could lead to a knock out by someone like Bane if they utilize proper cover(a la Crossbones vs Bullseye). Black Mask isn't very useful either, but he's better than Hammerhead who has never really done anything very impressive fighting wise. Surprisingly I'd say that Crossbones is the most dangerous member of Team 2, but Jason probably could take him(as he's taken on Batman and done very well) or Bane could cause him trouble until his teammates are taken care of.
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#17  Edited By FinalStar86

Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight. 

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#18  Edited By Decoy Elite
@FinalStar86 said:
" Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.  "
So is Hammerhead.
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#19  Edited By ForbushBug
@FinalStar86 said:
" Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.  "
He's smart, tenacious, and ruthless. And he was able to kill a super-hero, making him more effective than 99% of all comic book villains.
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#20  Edited By FinalStar86
@ForbushBug said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.  "
He's smart, tenacious, and ruthless. And he was able to kill a super-hero, making him more effective than 99% of all comic book villains. "
Yes smart, tenacious and ruthless...when it comes to running a criminal organization, he is a terrible fighter worse then even Hammerhead. 
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#21  Edited By Ultimate JSA

Close................................Team 1 because of Bane's machine gun
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#22  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@FinalStar86 said:
" @ForbushBug said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.  "
He's smart, tenacious, and ruthless. And he was able to kill a super-hero, making him more effective than 99% of all comic book villains. "
Yes smart, tenacious and ruthless...when it comes to running a criminal organization, he is a terrible fighter worse then even Hammerhead.  "

LOL.  He can take a hell of a beating (vs Huntress, at least I think it was her) and held his own against a decent fighter (the guy posing as Red hood)
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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Ultimate JSA said:
"Close................................Team 1 because of Bane's machine gun "

He has an mp5 submachine gun.  Not the mini-gun in the picture LOL
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#24  Edited By FinalStar86
@k4tzm4n said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @ForbushBug said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.  "
He's smart, tenacious, and ruthless. And he was able to kill a super-hero, making him more effective than 99% of all comic book villains. "
Yes smart, tenacious and ruthless...when it comes to running a criminal organization, he is a terrible fighter worse then even Hammerhead.  "
LOL.  He can take a hell of a beating (vs Huntress, at least I think it was her) and held his own against a decent fighter (the guy posing as Red hood) "
He got rocked by Grayson
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#25  Edited By Silver2467
@FinalStar86 said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" @ForbushBug said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.  "
He's smart, tenacious, and ruthless. And he was able to kill a super-hero, making him more effective than 99% of all comic book villains. "
Yes smart, tenacious and ruthless...when it comes to running a criminal organization, he is a terrible fighter worse then even Hammerhead.  "
LOL.  He can take a hell of a beating (vs Huntress, at least I think it was her) and held his own against a decent fighter (the guy posing as Red hood) "
He got rocked by Grayson "
Not to mention, Huntress is a terrible fighter. 
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#26  Edited By FinalStar86
@Silver2467: I wouldn't call her terrible, yeah she's no Lady Shiva but she's probably on the same level as Tim Drake [not saying much though]
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#27  Edited By Silver2467
@FinalStar86: Tim has shown much greater skill recently. She is not on his level. She consistently gets the crap beaten out of her whenever she fights another known character. The only time she ever seems to win is against a group of untrained street punks. 
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#28  Edited By FinalStar86
@Silver2467:  Tim Drake is probably the most overrated Bat family member there is, they suddenly gave him ridiculous fighting ability in Red Robin when in his own previous series he still lost to no name villains.  I don't think saying Huntress is on Tim's level at least pre RR is so far fetched
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#29  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@FinalStar86:
I'm not surprised he'd get owned by Grayson.  He's a really good h2h combatant. 
 
 
Does anyone have scans of Mask V Catwoman?
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With venom, Bane solos.

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#31  Edited By Andferne

I'm gonna go with team 2. I think Bane wold take Crossbones. But Bullseye could beat Red Hood and Hammerhead should be able to beat Black Mask. Then those two finish off Bane. Mostly due to Bullseye.

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#32  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Which Hammerhead are we using here..the uber on from recent Amazing Spider-Man or the one DD made cry? 
 

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#33  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Vance Astro:
Assume current, but adamantium ONLY for his head.
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#34  Edited By daredevil21134

This is a good fight
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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@daredevil21134:
Thank you.
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#36  Edited By Achilles.

T1. Due to Bane

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#37  Edited By JSH92

Team 1 takes it. Bane is a master tactician.

Here's how I see it going down: Bane takes out Crossbones, Jason Todd takes out Bulleseye, and Black Mask takes out Hammerhead.

@FinalStar86 said:

Team 2 because Black Mask is virtually useless in a straight up fight.

In Under the Hood, Black Mask beat that Jason Todd robot in a fight, even though the robot pulled a knife on him.