Bane (New 52) vs Captain America

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@helicoprion:

Nooooope

Cap'n America still wins. He's a much better fighter and has tanked people that hit harder than Bane could muster...like Iron Man.

Cap decapitates bane

@killermovies: I disagree bane in storonger just as fast and smarter bane should win

Cap until Bane gets more consistent high end feats. As things stand pre new 52 is a tougher fight...This could always change though.

@blackpantherisboss: Bane is only stronger. Cap is as trained as Batman (knows every fighting style) and MUCH faster. He might be smarter from a science standpoint but Cap is one of the smartest fighters in the Marvel universe as well as one of the best tacticians and strategists. Cap has taken down people stronger and more skilled than Bane.

Steve in a tough fight

@risingbean:

Shield feat.

Bane owns. He annihilated batman N52.

@madripoor:

Bane would break him

Cap puts his shield into Bane's skull.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: A Captain America who can take apart tanks, semi trucks and robots can dismember Bane at will. And he is bloodlusted here so unless you believe that Bane isn't going to get hit at all or that he has gotten superhuman durability, he dies.

Bane dies by dismemberment.

@risingbean:

Same can be said of batman and he got destroyed by Bane.

Also the shield is stupidly inconsistent

@clownprinceofcrime1995: A bloodlusted Captain America would one shot Batman with a all out shield throw. Not that it matters here.

The shield isn't inconsistent. Depending on how hard Rogers throws it, he can do nonlethal injuries, or he can throw it harder and take stuff apart. Because loss of life is a last resort, Captain America doesn't go all out. In that case, Bane would be a good fight.

However if Cap is going for the kill? Bane hasn't shown himself able to tank injuries that would dismember him.

Cap

@risingbean:

Or bats dodges the shield and leopard blow one shots him.

Caps shield has been caught, stuck into objects, cut through them, bouced off others, bane could literally just catch it.

He's been show to be faster than batman who would be able to dodge the shield.

That could happen if Bruce dodges the shot and richochet, is bloodlusted enough to actually kill and manages to land the shot. Not terribly pertinent to the thread here, but sure.

Bane could catch it. Of course if Cap is throwing it hard enough to tear through a tank, better odds are Bane loses a hand in the attempt.

Bruce or Bane can dodge, doesn't mean he will. Look at boxing. Boxers are trained to slip punches, to block, to try and avoid getting hit. However enough punches get thrown, boxers get hit. Add to this that the shield richochets. How many drawn out fights has Bane been in where he took on somebody as skilled as Bruce and not gotten hit at all? Odds are not too many.

Bane 9/10

way stronger, way more durable and about equal in speed. The way Bane dealt with Bruce, he would be able to beat Captain America..

Cap took out Hulk enough said

Bane took out Batman enoguh said.

@risingbean:

Actually he's changed it to be a one shot KO.

Bruce for a start is by far more skilled than captain America and have you seen the N52 scans? They're on page one of the thread and Bane mauls Bats. Literally just flash has to come in and shove crap in banes mouth.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: Then why Bruce isn't one shot KO'ing everybody he fights is beyond me.

I own the trade that fight takes place in. Cap has better defenses then Batman via the shield and his damage output is way higher. People keep limiting the fight in their head to Cap being near Batman levels of offense. That isn't the case. Cap can throw his shield hard enough to break the turret from a tank and fast enough to catch up to a missile in flight. Bane doesn't have the defense to take out a Captain America wanting to kill him.

Also the skill discrepancy is about as far off as the stat discrepancy. Bruce uses skill more often, but Cap has done some straight up ridiculous skill feats over the years.

@risingbean:

It's called plot mate.

Bats had high explosives and various other things which put his damage output quite high.

Batman has more feats showing skull and is more skilful on paper.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: Indeed. Plot and morals are why most supers don't one shot the baddies. Neither are at play here in this thread.

It's a shame Bruce didn't use the right gear. That is his failsafe. Thankfully Cap has the right stats, skills, morals and equipment to make short work of Bane.

@panzeera_king: Hulk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Batman

@risingbean:

Morals means batman doesn't blow his villains up.

Not really as bane is as fast if not faster than batman who could easily dodge caps shield or catch it.

Cap in a good fight.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: If you think Batman or Bane can consistently dodge or catch a shield that is thrown fast enough that it catches up to rockets in flight

with this sort of force.

Well I guess you need to back up your claim.

faaaalse

@panzeera_king: You've got to be trolling lol.

New 52 Bane is inconsistent. He has not been able to replicate the level of domination he dished out in his first New 52 appearance where he was Hulk jumping and one-shotting Batman.

I'll give it to Cap.

Right? Batman went toe-to-toe with Bane and decisively beat him in Forever Evil Aftermath, even though I consider that fight to be almost as sketchy as their first one in the New 52.

I'm giving this battle to Cap as well.

@omnicrono: That fight was really embarrassing. He was smashing Batman with everything he could get his hands on and Batman tanked all of it. Let's not forget Batwoman tanked a direct punch to face in her book. He also stomped Croc then lost to him a month or 2 after that. Inconsistent.

@nimamindtricks: Yep, sadly Bane has been very inconsistent in the New 52. Thank you, writers.

Cap

@risingbean:

You mean the like 10-20 times he's thrown a shield for the plot out of the thousands of times he hasn't?

Batman is a bullettimer and bane is as fast if not faster so dodging the shield wouldn't be that hard.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: Citation/scans? And then I pull out the scans of Cap manipulating Spider-Man into getting hit with it. Then what? Is Bane faster then Spider-Man now? Or will you just claim PIS?

The fact is Bane takes hits. He may dodge once, he may dodge twice. He isn't dodging them all. Add in ricochets and a Cap who is going for the kill and he takes it. Unless you have some feats of Bane being more durable then a tank.

@risingbean:

No Spider-Man is just a moron in fighting. Also should never be hit by something travelling below bullet speed.

They start close. 10-20 metres He has to dodge it once IF cap gets the throw off. Bane is also a lot stronger and just as skilled if not more so than Cap so once he gets hands in Cap is dead.

Okay i agree, there is no clear winner because Bane has become so inconsistent lately, if they would have stick to the early n52 Bane who whooped Batman's arse and was jumping down skyscrapers with minimum damage he would win fairly easy.. But as it stands now its a draw

Also i am sure Captain tossing a shield so hard it goes through a tank is another BS moment, hard seeing an slightly enhanced human doing that.

@clownprinceofcrime1995: Spider-Man got manipulated into getting hit. Much like Bane would.

And if Cap starts off so close to Bane it just makes his job easier. Closer to the target. As far as Cap being "dead" once Bane gets his hands on him. Nope. Cap has taken on Nuke who outclasses Bane. Taken hits and is still alive.

At any rate, no matter what logic I pull out I'm not going to bypass your bias. So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I feel I've done my job is showcasing why Cap would win with statements and feats backing them up. You're just lowballing Cap's speed when he has shown to be able to hit guys like Wolverine, Spider-Man and others of their ilk.

The fact is Bane gets hit regularly, and he won't survive an Adamantium shield dismembering him.

Cap 7/10

@risingbean:

You're saying a 2 tonner can take someone who is at least 5 tons approaching ten in H2H when there is no skill gap and caps shield is pretty much useless. And yet I'm bias? When Bane has straight up wrecked batman and it took batman hitting him multiple times in the head with a tombstone to KO him.