Well, I do have respect for Bane but aren't we all forgetting, (for those who haven't seen the movie stop reading now, in fact you shouldn't even be reading this thread to begin with.) Bane had help in preparation and money from Raish al gool's (fuck my spelling, I know it's wrong just ignore for now) daughter. What I men i, Bane wasn't totally in control as he pretended himself to be. The daughter waited and planned her way to get into Bruce's company and money and weapons. Again, without weapons, it's obvious Bane would win, but again isn't that basically like saying a human vs a lion with no weapons. What makes the Joker such a threat is the combination of weapons, disposable plans, viciousness, and being so damn unpredictable. Bane was tough but he had years to plan, years to recruit henchman, years of money to acquire, and years of training. My point is, Bane needed years of preparation time along with a smarter accomplice who funded all his exploits. The joker however would come up with a plan that's both surprisingly simple and brilliant. Lets take the Joker vs Bane in a series of capabilities.
1. Forms of manipulation: The joker would use men's weaknesses or vices such as greed, fear, and malice. At the beginning of the movie he simply told one message to each of his thugs, to kill one other person of their group. In the end he was the only one left who got out of a mob owned bank in broad daylight, and he did this simply to prove a point for another plan. Bane however used his henchman's fear of him or respect of him. He was effective and aggressive, but his use of henchman had no prolonged thought except to accomplish one goal in mind.
2. Over all goal: Joker's goal was to reveal the dark nature, the human condition if you will of all the people in Gotham. eE did this by creating ultimatums that would spout chaos. The plan was so simple that the effects of it were baffling. Bane wanted to remove the shackles of the human condition and let the masses recreate society that would go about and show how low human's can go if they should be released of control of a higher power, like government. He was trying to prove that control over the masses is a necessity. Philosophically, I'd say his plan is far more meaningful and brought about more realization, but this wasn't his idea alone, rather it was the daughter's goal. None the less, I'd say Bane's goal was a little more impressive, but I would also tack on that this was the League of Shadow's goal, not his alone which could also make it less innovate.
3. Methods: Joker's methods were no doubt all over the place. When I say this, I'm not inquiring that it was bad, quite the opposite. The Joker had so many alternative plans that when the police thought they had contained him, it was merely a plan set up so that he could escape leaving all of them in a wild goose chase to find Harvey Dent and "female love interest." He used simple resources like gasoline, bombs, and guns.These are all easy items to acquire, so easy that the common man could find this, illegally, but easily. And Joker's plan's were in broad daylight might I add, and he was still hard to capture. Bane's methods were fueled by large quantities of money, use of distraction, and mere force. Bane never operated in broad daylight until he went to steal Bruce's funds at the stock market. And when he was running away he was almost caught, the only intervention was the detective's impulsive need to capture Batman. If they let batman do his work, Bane would have been subdued by all the police taking aim and firing upon him. This could be speculative, but the police did appear to almost capture him. His other plans were long and thought out plans that needed to be kept secret. Had anyone checked the concrete with the blatantly displayed explosives, they would have stopped the plan far earlier.
4. Posing threat to Batman: Joker never wanted to kill Batman, he simply wanted to tarnish him. He wanted Batman to see that Gotham wasn't worth saving, that the human condition is in everyone, not just Gotham. He got everyone in gotham to go after one man's life just because of a threat. He broke Harvy Dent down to where Batman had to make himself a villan to prevent criminals running free, hence the Dent act. The Joker took everything away that Bruce held dear that it broke him and broke him, so much so that he stopped being Batman for 8 years. This is what the Joker accomplished, he made Bruce feel that he wasn't the cities savior, he made him feel that he was wrong, he broke Batman mentally. Bane however tried to break Batman's spirit. He brought back what Batman feared, which was failure to save lives like his parents and others. In the end, Bane did not succeed, in fact he made Bruce stronger, which was the opposite effect he was hoping for.
All in all, Joker was a better villan who could work with the bare essentials and could create a 15 step plan in a short period of time. Bane was a villan who looked for a big conclusion that he had to dedicate his life to. So, as for an immediate threat, Joker is a far larger danger. In longterm, I'd say Joker is still more dangerous because if he is left to his own devices for a long period of time, who knows what the end result could be. So, saying this, Joker could be a worse danger if they both have an hour to prepare. Joker could get the necessary items in no time spending little money. Bane would bring a dangerous team, but nothing that could come to be a more of a threat than he is himself. If the two fought, the joker would not only kill Bane, he wouldn't care. The Joker wants to prove a point, to create chaos, to expose the human condition, not destroy it. If they knew each other, the Joker would be on a mission to kill Bane because he knows that Bane would put an end to his fun if he succeeded.
Here's how I personally would see it go, please criticize what ever you feel necessary. They would crash some event that the upper class would be holding. Ra's al Ghuls daughter Miranda would be present and acting as a bystander, (yeah I spelled his name right this time) . All of Joker's henchman would be in masks, all making themselves indistinguishable. Bane's men arrive later and Bane follows not too long after. Bane makes a speech, looks at all of Joker's men and proceeds to introduce himself and start monologuing. He would explain all that he knows of the joker and that he's hiding among his men and would in fact admire him, but the Joker represents what Bane must eliminate and says his death will be the first of many more. This would cause Joker's men to fight against Bane's men. As the fight ensues most of the guests try to flee but all the exists are closed of. Miranda is making a good act to appear panicked but stays calm none the less. Joker's and Bane's men are falling left and right, Bane is taking only a few out because he doesn't see them as a threat. A few of the Joker's henchman are just tearing threw Bane's men because they are veteraned mobsters. Eventually Bane's numbers are starting to wane in this gun fight and Bane starts taking this seriously and begins slaughtering the strongest of Joker's Henchman. The fight is just about over and maybe five or so of Joker's men are left. Bane is just standing above them with his few surviving men and just stares down at them content. The bystanders are all cowering over somewhere. Bane starts speaking again and he's giving these men their last applaud and starts peering into Joker's plan. "So, you thought you could hide among the men could you. Thought I couldn't find you. Well then, I admit, it wasn't a bad endeavor to make all of these henchman decoys." Bane pulls of all their masks, he knew none of them were the Joker. then he looks over to to bystanders and Joker starts clapping. It turned out the joker was in a guest suit as a ruse the entire time and praises Bane, then takes the outer suit off because he was wearing his personal one underneath, you know, because it's him. The Joker starts conversing back about how he likes Bane's costume and everything. Then the Joker points out that Miranda was with Bane the entire time, talking about how he noticed the little things she would do. As he does so, a few more of Joker's henchman who were hiding in the crowd too, bring her forward. As she comes up the Joker goes for one of the glasses of champaign that is remarkably still in tact. He sniffs it the throws it against the ground, just monologuing back at Bane. Then he tells Bane to leave or he'll have his men kill Miranda. Bane stares at him then laughs. "She's not afraid of death and would gladly die as long as it meant your death." As he says this she busts the two henchman down, they aren't dead, but they have broken bones and etc. The Joker laughs then picks up another cup of whatever. He then compliments her and she stands her ground above the two she just beat down. The joker then looks back at Bane and says "I kinda figured she'd be like that. She's fistey. But is he durable?" One of the beaten henchman pulls out a grenade then suicide bombs himself. Miranda jumps out of the way slightly enough not to be killed but is still maimed. Joker laughs, Bane gets pissed then begins to run at Joker. The joker throws the last glass at Bane then throws a match against the ground. Turns out the champaign had some mixture that made it easily ignitable but not easily detected by smell or anything. Bane catches fire, backs away from Jokers and rolls to put it out. Joker's running for an exit he had planned way prior laughing, and just before he leaves he says this. "Oh, and my friends here, you would have liked them. They were a real blast." or something cheesy like that. Bane looks at Joker's dead men, they all have bombs strapped to them. Boom. Bane, Miranda, and all the guests inside dead.
Now I know there are a lot of loop holes one could make, but again I'm just saying that this kind of planning seems a bot more likely of the joker. It's simple but has many preparations in case. Bane and Miranda can create an intricate plan, but they ignore little things like in the movie when Bruce made an anti-detonator. That was a bit obvious, especially since she knew who Batman was sto begin with along with a lot of the tech he comes into the game with, I mean he had a switch the turned the lights of all buildings and zones on and off. They also had no counter plan for any of batman's strategies. I'm merely pointing out that something simple could be forgotten by them which the Joker can easily exploit, and with little preparation time, they're playing a game the joker knows all too well.
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