Bane and Catman vs Jason Todd and Nightwing

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PreNew 52 versions.

Both sides are in character.

Standard gear and no prep.

Win by death, KO, or incapacitation.

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#2  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Location and starting distance?

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Fight is at the Venetian

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They start 15 feet apart.

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#5  Edited By ColdShot

I have to give this to Todd and Grayson

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#6  Edited By entropy_aegis

Grayson and Todd probably take it due to the gear,unless Bane himself has guns or venom.

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#7  Edited By darktiger

@entropy_aegis said:

Grayson and Todd probably take it due to the gear,unless Bane himself has guns or venom.

agreed with this statement

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#8  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

I'd give team former Robins a trivial majority. While I do believe Bane is the MVP (should earn a majority over either of his opponents), I don't believe he'd beat either swiftly... despite the fact he did so to Nightwing twice in continuity.  
 
Simply put, they're bringing variety to the table. Nightwing has the skill and agility to give either of these Secret Six members a good fight. Throw in his variety of gear and things get very interesting. His new ability to generate electric attacks from his escrima sticks should prove effective every few matches, and if it comes down to a desperate measure, he has a variety of equipment he can use as a last resort (though I don't see that happening more than a few times out of 10).  Meanwhile, Todd, although less skilled than Dick, also has enough talent and gear to make either match-up interesting. The starting distance is short so I sincerely doubt he's going to get an immediate win with the pistol, but he also brings to the table electric attacks (taser) and other assorted weapons. The fact he's willing to fight dirty and "cheat" are also key for keeping him in the game longer.
 
Catman's good, especially thanks to his pain tolerance and brutality, but I honestly don't see him taking a majority over either and therefore making him the weak link (but that by no means implies he'd go down easily). If Catman drops first, the two should be able to best Bane. They're going to walk away with some damage, but I think they can take perhaps 6/10. In the end, I'd say their more than adequate levels of skill, agility and sheer variety of equipment means they have more advantages in this one.  

 
Additionally, I wrote this under the belief that Bane is not on venom.
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#9  Edited By jobbernos

@entropy_aegis said:

Grayson and Todd probably take it due to the gear,unless Bane himself has guns or venom.

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#11  Edited By darktiger

if bane has venom then team 1 wins he then outclasses dick and jason physically and with catman there also dick and jason can't beat them one on one because dick or jason can't be bane one on one they will have to team up but if catman is also there then they can't focus on bane and not expect catman to deliver damage he is an expert knife thrower and skilled combatant,so due to lack of horsepower team one will win in a disadvantageous state for team 2

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#12  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@darktiger said:

if bane has venom then team 1 wins he then outclasses dick and jason physically and with catman there also dick and jason can't beat them one on one because dick or jason can't be bane one on one they will have to team up but if catman is also there then they can't focus on bane and not expect catman to deliver damage he is an expert knife thrower and skilled combatant,so due to lack of horsepower team one will win in a disadvantageous state for team 2

Even without venom Bane has Nightwing and Red Hood outclassed physically.

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#13  Edited By darktiger

@k4tzm4n said:

@darktiger said:

if bane has venom then team 1 wins he then outclasses dick and jason physically and with catman there also dick and jason can't beat them one on one because dick or jason can't be bane one on one they will have to team up but if catman is also there then they can't focus on bane and not expect catman to deliver damage he is an expert knife thrower and skilled combatant,so due to lack of horsepower team one will win in a disadvantageous state for team 2

Even without venom Bane has Nightwing and Red Hood outclassed physically.

i know i'm just saying with venom it makes team 1 get a guaranteed win

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#16  Edited By HyperViper97

Bane can beat either of them 1v1, and I don't see catman going down easy. Team 1 ftw

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Grayson and Todd probably take it due to the gear,unless Bane himself has guns or venom.

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Pre new 52 it goes to team one 5.5/10. Bane has stalemated batman a few times.

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@entropy_aegis said:

Grayson and Todd probably take it due to the gear,unless Bane himself has guns or venom.

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Jason shoots them......in the face