vs
Characters with similar powers only a few minor differences
Both in character
No prep or knowledge of each other
Round 1 Classic Azir vs Gaara
No help from outside forces, fight takes place in the desert 50 feet away from each other
Round 2 Ascended Azir vs Kazekage Gaara
Both Bloodlusted and at peak power, location and distance is the same
Lemme know who you guys think would win
Also forgive me if the format is a bit lacking because i'm a bit new here
So you are saying lack of feats= unusable?
In this case..absolutely.
In general skillsets of lol champions arent always true to their designs
Otherwise Kindred would be unkillable and Soraka would be able to bring back people from the dead.
Point is he can move sand anyway he imagines it
Well that's a pretty strong statement supported by..nothing really.
And he can move more than Gaara
Actually..he can't. All Azir did was rebuild the broken city of Shurima. Gaara projected a sand barrier around the entirety of the Sunagakure village to protect it from Deidara's bomb.
And there's no reason to believe Shurima is any larger than the sand village.
Doesnt matter if he doesnt have feats in combat per se
Yes it does. That's how combat acumen is judged. His feat suggests he's good at building things but there's no reason to believe he can bring that to a fight.
He can manipulate sand on levels Gaara can only dream of
Sheer amount of sand moved to build a city is impressive
It sure is. Erecting a barrier around a village of similar size to protect it from a bomb is better and more relevant to a fight.
Maybe not against Gaara, but what would a street leveler do if someone suddenly put a town of sand on his head that weighs thousands of tons if not millions?
Key word if. All Azir did was rebuild a broken city, he didn't create a new one out of nothing and there's no reason to believe he would try to make anything other than sand soldiers to fight for him.
3 is just a number used by Riot to balance a champion in game try to not think about games in lol and focus solely on Lore as it is more accurate of depiction of their powerset.
It is a gameplay mechanic but it's the closest thing to a combat feat we have for him. If we focus on the Lore..we find that he can rebuild a broken city and create a large number of sand soldiers. That's all his lore gives us..and that's nowhere near enough to suggest he'd beat someone with similar powers who's swarming with combat feats.
Azir is simply better at moving sand than Gaara is and he has feats to prove it.
He has one feat to prove he's a better builder than Gaara but not a single one that points to any relevant advantage he has in a 1v1 encounter. Gaara has shown greater versatility, physical superiority(both of himself and the sand he controls), and combat intelligence. Why? Because Azir has no combat showings. At all.
Even if his sand army is useless once more
It is. No reason to believe Captain America couldn't run through them tbh.
the sheer quantity of snd he commands is more than Gaara can handle.
It really isn't..and you can't prove he would even try to manipulate anywhere close to that level of sand in combat.
Which means that a point could be made for Azir taking over control over Gaaras sand.
A point that would easily be shot down by pointing out a few key facts.
1. Azir has never fought another sand manipulator, and hasn't shown enough control over sand to suggest he'd be able to engage in a tug of war with another much more experienced character.
2. Gaara can infuse chakra into his sand to keep it in his control. No reason to believe Azir can counter this.
3. Azir would have to be able to react to a simple sand swipe from Gaara to try to combat him..but unfortunately for him he has literally no speed feats whatsoever. I can make the argument that Gaara would blitz and oneshot him before he knows he's in a fight, and there's nothing you or anybody else can say to counter that due to Azir's severe lack of combat showings. That's the problem with using LoL characters against characters in other universes like Naruto..they lose simply off the fact that their lore is comprised mainly of narratives than actual feats. Really Azir would get stomped by Chapter 1 Naruto for this very reason.
@juiceboks: WOW, you have a picture. Because pictures are soo much better than written words.
Well that's a pretty strong statement supported by..nothing really.
Actually. Read his lore. i didnt want to post the entire thing here but. He was able not only to make a city of Shurima rise again but also to recreate a day he was betrayed by Xerath with perfection. Every face in its place and sand figures he made even had the power of speech. So yeah. He has perfect control over vast quantities of sand.
And actually i have proof that Shurima is bigger than Sand village. Or at the very least the shield Gaara made.
Also you should keep in mind Gaara almost died from using up all his chakra to do that and Azir didnt show any effort in recreating Shurima.
Key word if. All Azir did was rebuild a broken city, he didn't create a new one out of nothing and there's no reason to believe he would try to make anything other than sand soldiers to fight for him.
Are you saying He is unable to use sand to protect himself even if he has perfect manipulation just because he didnt do so before?
That is like saying TOAA could be killed by guns because he was never shot to the face before. This is simple logic. He can manipulate sand to make a city. No reason to say he cant do it to cover you in sand or use it defensively.
He has one feat to prove he's a better builder than Gaara but not a single one that points to any relevant advantage he has in a 1v1 encounter. Gaara has shown greater versatility, physical superiority(both of himself and the sand he controls), and combat intelligence. Why? Because Azir has no combat showings. At all.
You are forgetting his Sun Disk shoots beams of powerful energy at people. And the one he made above Shurima is a LOT bigger than those he uses on the rift.
It is. No reason to believe Captain America couldn't run through them tbh.
Reason being that sand is heavy and you would have to be a 100 tonner to run through a sand army.
1. Azir has never fought another sand manipulator, and hasn't shown enough control over sand to suggest he'd be able to engage in a tug of war with another much more experienced character.
He has shown more control over sand than Gaara did.
2. Gaara can infuse chakra into his sand to keep it in his control. No reason to believe Azir can counter this.
What proof do you have that it stops stronger manipulators from using it? Chakra doesnt stop magic
3. Azir would have to be able to react to a simple sand swipe from Gaara to try to combat him..but unfortunately for him he has literally no speed feats whatsoever. I can make the argument that Gaara would blitz and oneshot him before he knows he's in a fight, and there's nothing you or anybody else can say to counter that due to Azir's severe lack of combat showings. That's the problem with using LoL characters against characters in other universes like Naruto..they lose simply off the fact that their lore is comprised mainly of narratives than actual feats. Really Azir would get stomped by Chapter 1 Naruto for this very reason.
This one i agree with. As i said. Lack of speed= a loss vs gaara. BUt you are downplaying Azir too hard. People use characters here with even less showings.
Even to go as far as to claim a sand manipulator who can create a city cant create a wall because he didnt do it which is ridiculous.
@juiceboks: Btw. To add:
This is the army Azir rose
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