Avengers vs JL

Avengers team

All feats for everyone (dont be idiots this is pre and nu 52 feats and all Marvel feats i just didnt want to have to type that because i thought people knew) this means no Supermanp1million, no odin force thor, no super duper amped up GL (i cant believe i had to type that)

Battle on Earth

win by KO/Death/Incap

Aquaman has Trident. everyone else is standard gear

start 100 meters apart

side note= i tried to make it fair but ill be honest i only know about half of these characters so if something smells funny let me know.

Star Brand is suppose to be ridiculously powerful, but don't think we've seen many feats...@killemall care to comment?

supposedly but he doesnt have a large number of feats. btw i just read one of the newest avengers. Hyperion took out a Terminus in one shot. i was like "Dayyuuumm"

Yeah Hyperion is suppose to get a lot of love in the coming year according to Hickman. I hope they finally flesh him out more.

good i love Hyperion, he is more relate-able for some weird reason i just like his history

@green_skaar: Well he did fight the entire Avengers by himself twice. Thor's hit apparently just tickle him and he rather casually blew up a world killer, thats about it.

Thank you. I was only aware of the later in Infinity, haven't been keeping up on that set of Avengers, busy with Mighty and Uncanny.

Captain Universe could solo.

She's not in the team, the members in the team are actually listed below the image.

It actually happened before Infinity event began, first they fought in Avengers # 08 and then again in Avengers # 09, and he was holding back both the times and hits from Thor and Hulk merely tickle. We have also been repeatedly told that he has the power to blow up the planet.

Avengers universe is going to flesh out more details about Starbrand and Hyperion , but it will be some time before that comes out.

Let me clarify, you gave two feats of Starbrand: soloing the Avengers (twice) and destroying a world killer. I said I was only aware of the later (i.e. destroying a world killer) which happened in Infinity. Wasn't implying the fights took place in Infinity.

JL

Star-Brand is just such a powerhouse, as well as Hulk if he got angry enough so the avengers have a slight edge.

@kidman560: When you say all feats, you're only talking standard equipment and form right? So no Odin Force or Sundipping, right? Also, how are we supposed to treat Superboy? In his original 1980-90s run, he had TK, then he had partial kryptonian powers (like in YJ), and now he has Tactile TK, so does he just have all of that?

Right now I'm pretty torn. If we can use all feats for Superman, he an probably tango with Hyperion or Starbrand, and Pre-52 Wonder Woman is also pretty baller (as is the n52 one). Hulk and Thor are pretty crazy right now from what I've heard/seen, and someone told me iron Man also got buffs recently. It's hard to call.

Justice league win because any feats include presumably all canon so there's SMP1million and if it's all feats at all the kingdom come feats win it for the JL.

your new here so ill let that slide but thats hardly how we do things here i didnt day supermanp1million and if people need to do that then this isnt what i was looking for.

@kidman560: OK sorry as I've been on other forums where people usually do stuff like that but I won't' in the future.

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Avengers

Justice League takes it in a close battle. Thor can be beaten by Superman, WW, Hal, Kyle, Barry, or maybe even Donna Troy (probably not though). Hyperion is a huge threat, but he can't take that many powerhouses alone.

JL.

Avengers have Starbrand >>Thor, Superman, Hyperion, WW, Hulk etc

imo Avengers win after a pretty cool fight.

Avengers. This has been bone on a Stan Lee show, and Avengers won. Stan Lee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your petty opinion. Hands down, Avengers.

That's what I was about to say. Starbrand beat the entire Avengers without knowing how to control his powers and also played a big part in ending the war with the Builders. I'd take the Avengers winning this one

Probably the JL in a tough fight imo.

But come on, whoever said that, Donna ain't beating Thor.