Avengers (film version) VS. Marvel Movie heroes

Avengers:

Captain America

Iron Man

Thor

Hulk

Black Widow

Hawkeye

VS

Spider-Man (2002-2007 or 2012 version)

Jean Grey (Jamessen)

Silver Surfer (07 version)

Thing (2004 or 07 version)

Reed Richards (2004 version)

Ghost rider (Cage)

Wolverine (Jackman)

No prep time for either side, morals off.

Fight's in NYC.

Win by any means KO, death, etc

You have seen the Avengers and their solo title movies, right?

No one here can stop either Thor or Hulk, let alone both of them.

Surfer might solo

Team 1 wins. People forge this is movie versions, you cannot attribute their comic book feats to their movie selves. Just because Surfer can slag planets doesn't mean that movie Surfer can do that. Movie surfer needed to stay on his board to keep his powers, it's not that difficult for Stark to shoot a pulse to knock him off. Hulk would pound movie GR into a pile of flaming goo. Thor would destroy Jean effortlessly.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

Team 1 wins. People forge this is movie versions, you cannot attribute their comic book feats to their movie selves. Just because Surfer can slag planets doesn't mean that movie Surfer can do that. Movie surfer needed to stay on his board to keep his powers, it's not that difficult for Stark to shoot a pulse to knock him off. Hulk would pound movie GR into a pile of flaming goo. Thor would destroy Jean effortlessly.

I don't see them getting pass Surfer. You make it sound way too easy.

@never give up: Reed did the same thing after watching a video of Surfer channeling his powers. Tony would be able to read that pretty easily and with Jarvis would easily come up with a conclusion. Movie surfer was not that impressive.

Jean can solo just like in the movie Avengers vs movie Xmen battle, they have no protection from her telepathy, or her tk, she could BFR the entire team or just think their atoms apart. Her tk can cover a wide radius with a single thought faster than any of them can react, her tk shields can withstand greater forces than they can generate, since they took on a force that wiped out a base and cleared a forest.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@never give up: Reed did the same thing after watching a video of Surfer channeling his powers. Tony would be able to read that pretty easily and with Jarvis would easily come up with a conclusion. Movie surfer was not that impressive.

No prep

@never give up: Movie Tony is infinitely times more smarter than movie Reed. He has an artificial intelligence in his suit, he would be able detect the energy surge in Surfer's board. It's really not beyond his ability to do something like that, without prep, judging from what Tony has done on the spot before.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@never give up: Movie Tony is infinitely times more smarter than movie Reed. He has an artificial intelligence in his suit, he would be able detect the energy surge in Surfer's board. It's really not beyond his ability to do something like that, without prep, judging from what Tony has done on the spot before.

When is he going to get the time to do this. You really think Movie Iron Man can take down Movie Surfer.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@never give up: Movie Tony is infinitely times more smarter than movie Reed. He has an artificial intelligence in his suit, he would be able detect the energy surge in Surfer's board. It's really not beyond his ability to do something like that, without prep, judging from what Tony has done on the spot before.

and he still gets mind raped and atomized as his reward for being smarter, the moment the battle starts they will be caught in her sphere of influence

@LordOfAllHumans: Movie Phoenix has never mind raped anyone at all. All she did was stand around and disintegrate stuff. Also what stops her from getting a hammer tossed into her face or a shield being thrown into her head? She had normal human durability and couldn't atomize Wolverine.

@never give up: I think it's a possibility. Tony has done calculations on the fly before and can have Jarvis do them. Movie surfer wasn't that impressive in my opinion. He really didn't do anything.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@LordOfAllHumans: Movie Phoenix has never mind raped anyone at all. All she did was stand around and disintegrate stuff. Also what stops her from getting a hammer tossed into her face or a shield being thrown into her head? She had normal human durability and couldn't atomize Wolverine.

@never give up: I think it's a possibility. Tony has done calculations on the fly before and can have Jarvis do them. Movie surfer wasn't that impressive in my opinion. He really didn't do anything.

She was holding back on Wolverine cuz of her feelings... She solos here. Captain America, Hawkeye, and Black Widow are non factors.

@quatro_briefs: She only allowed Wolverine the ability to kill her once he got up close. The fact he was able to close the distance to get within speaking distance of her shows her abilities aren't absolute. I still don't see she is going to evade a hammer being thrown into her face by Thor or lightning being summoned to hit her. She doesn't have the feats to suggest she could block it, let alone react to it in time.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@LordOfAllHumans: Movie Phoenix has never mind raped anyone at all. All she did was stand around and disintegrate stuff. Also what stops her from getting a hammer tossed into her face or a shield being thrown into her head? She had normal human durability and couldn't atomize Wolverine.

@never give up: I think it's a possibility. Tony has done calculations on the fly before and can have Jarvis do them. Movie surfer wasn't that impressive in my opinion. He really didn't do anything.

She mind raped Wolverine to get him to come to Magnetos base, she did the same to Scott by flooding there minds with images of her and her voice, she engaged in a teleapthic battle with Xavier and and was winning, I'd wager she can mind rape people because she is the most powerful telepath in the Marvel movie universe and can enter peoples minds as she please which means once in there she can do what she likes. They will be caught in her tk field the same one that covered her neighbor as a child with a thought and an island as an adult with a thought, we already know form the car scene in the beginning of the movies she does have to be near or see to manipulate anything she want moved including a hammer throws, considering she had her back to a bunch of soldiers shooting at her, she stopped their projectiles with no trouble. She solos hard and can do it more than one way.

@LordOfAllHumans said:

She mind raped Wolverine to get him to come to Magnetos base, she did the same to Scott by flooding there minds with images of her and her voice, she engaged in a teleapthic battle with Xavier and and was winning, I'd wager she can mind rape people because she is the most powerful telepath in the Marvel movie universe and can enter peoples minds as she please which means once in there she can do what she likes. They will be caught in her tk field the same one that covered her neighbor as a child with a thought and an island as an adult with a thought, we already know form the car scene in the beginning of the movies she does have to be near or see to manipulate anything she want moved including a hammer throws, considering she had her back to a bunch of soldiers shooting at her, she stopped their projectiles with no trouble. She solos hard and can do it more than one way.

Good points. I haven't watched the movie in a while so I didn't remember most of the feats. I guess its safe to say that Phoenix would effectively solo.